***OFFICIAL MARYLAND AT MINNESOTA SUPER BOWL SUNDAY IN-GAME THREAD!!!***

LOL.

Double down on stupid.


I quoted the box score exactly and posted the link.


Her shooting breakdown was as follows:
  • 2-pointers: She shot 4 times and missed all 4.
  • 3-pointers: She shot 6 times and missed all 6.
Grace Grocholski struggled from the field, shooting 0% as she missed all 10 of her field goal attempts.
 

I quoted the box score exactly and posted the link.


Her shooting breakdown was as follows:
  • 2-pointers: She shot 4 times and missed all 4.
  • 3-pointers: She shot 6 times and missed all 6.
Grace Grocholski struggled from the field, shooting 0% as she missed all 10 of her field goal attempts.


Please block me to not enjoy my content as I have just done to you.
 

I think we're just gettting too worn down. There has to be another guy or two on the bench that can give us 5 minutes a game.
 

I think we're just gettting too worn down. There has to be another guy or two on the bench that can give us 5 minutes a game.
Sadly I just don't think there is at this point. If Turner is in fact hurt as was reported in one of the games then you have Turner, Viahola, Willis, Stephens and Omot all out. So you are down to the very back of the rotation guys like Grizzi and Spencer. You could put them out there but they would but they would basically just be bodies who would bring very little to the game from an offensive standpoint and probably be defensive liabilities.

On top of that, the 7 we have a keeping all the games tight and playing really well together. At this point I think you just grit your teeth and battle through to the end of the season. Keep on developing guys like Grove and Shinholster to be rotation pieces next year. Hopefully get JCJ to the point where he can be consistent night in and night out and keep on giving Asuma chances to improve as a point guard.
 

I think we're just gettting too worn down. There has to be another guy or two on the bench that can give us 5 minutes a game.
Do you suppose an established coach like Niko might know better than us whether just randomly putting somebody out there who obviously hasn't proven in practice that they deserve anything other than a couple of garbage time minutes per game might hurt more than help (or even tread water) the Gophers? Pretty sure that a proven college coach like Niko has, at some or several points during the season, made it very clear during one on one meetings, practice film sessions or sideline conversations during practice exactly what needs to happen for player A, B or C to see any meaningful floor time.

If you mapped specific expectations/goals to your players (or employees, or students in class) and they failed to ever meet those expectations or goals, would you give them a promotion or good grade? I don't think many coaches, managers or bosses hand out rewards for not doing, or at least making significant progress toward the stated and understood goals.

As I mentioned before, I don't think Niko is the type of coach that just throws mud up against the wall out of desperation. My feeling is that he would rather ride with the guys who may be operating at 75%, but doing things the way I want them done, than go with guys who may be fresher, but I don't trust to do things the "Niko way".
 



I quoted the box score exactly and posted the link.


Her shooting breakdown was as follows:
  • 2-pointers: She shot 4 times and missed all 4.
  • 3-pointers: She shot 6 times and missed all 6.
Grace Grocholski struggled from the field, shooting 0% as she missed all 10 of her field goal attempts.

Exactly, so (as I said), she was 0-10. Not 0-16 as was mentioned earlier.
 

Not really. There is likely no Crown or other post-season coming. Give the guys who will be here more playing time. There is no reason for Shinholster to play 0 minutes in the 2nd half when we only have a 7 man rotation.

The Crown automatically takes the top two Big Ten teams available after the NCAA takes their teams. Minnesota and Washington are right now strongly secured as the next two in the NET rankings and the standings. So, Minnesota would be in the Crown Field as of today, based on that. So, there absolutely could be a Crown invite. No guarantee, but that's what you have to play for.
 

The Crown automatically takes the top two Big Ten teams available after the NCAA takes their teams. Minnesota and Washington are right now strongly secured as the next two in the NET rankings and the standings. So, Minnesota would be in the Crown Field as of today, based on that. So, there absolutely could be a Crown invite. No guarantee, but that's what you have to play for.
Hard to believe. How many B1G in the NCAA field?
 



The Crown automatically takes the top two Big Ten teams available after the NCAA takes their teams. Minnesota and Washington are right now strongly secured as the next two in the NET rankings and the standings. So, Minnesota would be in the Crown Field as of today, based on that. So, there absolutely could be a Crown invite. No guarantee, but that's what you have to play for.

Sure, but you can decline (as a number of conference teams did last season). If they don't get at least 14 wins (15 would be better) in the regular season, I think they should decline. Spend the time trying to improve next year's team from the transfer portal.

Also, I'm not sure that Washington and Minnesota will be the first two conference teams left out of the NCAA tournament and get the automatic bids. That assumes that the NCAA tournament takes 11 conference teams. They only took 8 last season. It's also possible that the Gophers could fall in the standings.
 

Do you suppose an established coach like Niko might know better than us whether just randomly putting somebody out there who obviously hasn't proven in practice that they deserve anything other than a couple of garbage time minutes per game might hurt more than help (or even tread water) the Gophers? Pretty sure that a proven college coach like Niko has, at some or several points during the season, made it very clear during one on one meetings, practice film sessions or sideline conversations during practice exactly what needs to happen for player A, B or C to see any meaningful floor time.

If you mapped specific expectations/goals to your players (or employees, or students in class) and they failed to ever meet those expectations or goals, would you give them a promotion or good grade? I don't think many coaches, managers or bosses hand out rewards for not doing, or at least making significant progress toward the stated and understood goals.

As I mentioned before, I don't think Niko is the type of coach that just throws mud up against the wall out of desperation. My feeling is that he would rather ride with the guys who may be operating at 75%, but doing things the way I want them done, than go with guys who may be fresher, but I don't trust to do things the "Niko way".
Shouldn't an "established coach like Niko" recruit better than putting multiple people on his roster he cant play?
 

Shouldn't an "established coach like Niko" recruit better than putting multiple people on his roster he cant play?
Well, to be fair, I think he actually recruited to the point where he felt he would be 12 deep and filled in the rest of the roster with practice/project guys. 4, or is it 5 of those top of the roster guys, ended up being or getting injured and out for the season.

I haven't put in the time to check every college basketball roster in the country, but I'd be shocked if many coaches have recruited a full 15 man roster in which they honestly believe that players 13-15 are fully capable of playing at the same level of players 6-9 for any length of time. Even in today's world, you are going to have "Projects" on your team that you hope, but don't necessarily guarantee will develop into starter quality players for that first year or two. Grove and Shin seem to fit into that category for Minnesota this year. They have plenty of warts, but have been forced to be contributors on a limited basis. Kudo's that they have been able to respond. But let's be honest, they were 11-12 level projects when they came in, with virtually no expectation of being part of the regular rotation this season. I think most college coaches in the country would tell us that "I hope the #12 guy on my roster could come in and make a solid 10 minute contribution in an emergency for a game or two, but I certainly don't count on having to go that deep much longer than that. If you know of 50 or a 100 or so D-1 college programs who are that deep with "almost starter level" quality through the end of the roster, it would be cool to hear from their coaches as to how they are able to do that in this era.

Of course, it is possible that you yourself have actually coached and recruited an entire 15 player roster who all came into your program with the ability to be completely interchangeable and equally competitive 1 through 15 at the Big Ten level. If so, please pass on your expertise on how to get those kinds of players, who fit your philosophy and system, to the current coaching staffs.
 

Shouldn't an "established coach like Niko" recruit better than putting multiple people on his roster he cant play?

Currently, the only players not playing are walk-ons. He has five scholarship players injured. Who knows if they stay healthy if they'd be good enough to play, but given two were starters and two others were high major transfers, I'd think they could play.

He's playing seven scholarship players and five are out with injury.

That would take a toll on any team.

Maryland is missing four guys and near last place with a coach who has been to 11 NCAA tourneys.

Oregon - with a Hall of Fame coach and an NIL budget that dwarfs anything MN has - was preseason top five Big Ten pick but is missing a couple of guys and has 1 Big Ten win and in last place.
 
Last edited:



Sure, but you can decline (as a number of conference teams did last season). If they don't get at least 14 wins (15 would be better) in the regular season, I think they should decline. Spend the time trying to improve next year's team from the transfer portal.

Also, I'm not sure that Washington and Minnesota will be the first two conference teams left out of the NCAA tournament and get the automatic bids. That assumes that the NCAA tournament takes 11 conference teams. They only took 8 last season. It's also possible that the Gophers could fall in the standings.

Correct. That's why I said no guarantee.

But, they should be playing to win games to try to get to the Crown.

Last year's Crown winner is currently 21-2 and contending for the Big Ten title and ranked in the Top Ten.
 
Last edited:

Hard to believe. How many B1G in the NCAA field?

Right now every mock bracket has 11 Big Ten teams in the field.

And, to clarify, I don't disagree on Shinholster getting a few minutes in the second half. He probably should. But, maybe in place of Durkin for a few or Asuma for a few. And, in reference to Sunday's game, Shinholster was not very good in the minutes he played in the first half. Could not guard anyone on Maryland.

Right now, Reynolds is our best defensive player and at times our best offensive threat when he uses his physicality and is aggressive to the hoop.

So, him playing 38 minutes with the current roster setup is probably the best way to win games.

Reynolds is shooting 55% from the floor, which is ridiculous for a guard. He is 61% on 2-pt FG attempts. Yes, he has a few too many turnovers and isn't the best long distance or FT shooter.
 

Sure, but you can decline (as a number of conference teams did last season). If they don't get at least 14 wins (15 would be better) in the regular season, I think they should decline. Spend the time trying to improve next year's team from the transfer portal.

Also, I'm not sure that Washington and Minnesota will be the first two conference teams left out of the NCAA tournament and get the automatic bids. That assumes that the NCAA tournament takes 11 conference teams. They only took 8 last season. It's also possible that the Gophers could fall in the standings.
Who declined other than Ohio State?
These guys have worked their balls off... let em go try and win some money.
 


Correct. That's why I said no guarantee.

But, they should be playing to win games to try to get to the Crown.

Last year's Crown winner is currently 21-2 and contending for the Big Ten title and ranked in the Top Ten.

Yes, and the second place team, UCF, is doing significantly better so far than last season.

Of course, I would like to see the team win as many games as they can for the remainder of the season but I just don't have much faith in this team right now. Although they're 4-9 in conference, three of those wins came early in the conference season and they're only 1-8 in their last nine conference games.

It's nobody's fault but this isn't an unpredictable outcome. Too much pressure for too long on 5 guys who are getting few or no breaks during the games and who don't have much margin for error even under better conditions.
 




Top Bottom