You do realize that in a typical year the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th,...ranked Minnesota in state recruit would not be highly ranked if they were playing high school ball in Florida, Texas, and Ohio. In fact they would be getting their asses handed to them on a regular basis by the higher level of competition. They might not even be starters on high school teams there. There will always be a kid who falls through the cracks or develops late but you have a better chance at success with kids from the states I mentioned along with other southern states because the coaching is better, the competition is greater and the athletes are just far superior. The Minnesota kids you mentioned were/are mid to late round draft picks, and only Marion is doing anything of significance. Do you see Lamonte Edwards being a top 10 NFL pick in a 3 years? or Nick Rengal?
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You do realize that in a typical year the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th,...ranked Minnesota in state recruit would not be highly ranked if they were playing high school ball in Florida, Texas, and Ohio. In fact they would be getting their asses handed to them on a regular basis by the higher level of competition. They might not even be starters on high school teams there. There will always be a kid who falls through the cracks or develops late but you have a better chance at success with kids from the states I mentioned along with other southern states because the coaching is better, the competition is greater and the athletes are just far superior. The Minnesota kids you mentioned were/are mid to late round draft picks, and only Marion is doing anything of significance. Do you see Lamonte Edwards being a top 10 NFL pick in a 3 years? or Nick Rengal?
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"Nick Rengel will never be heard from again. He is as easily replaceable as a lightbulb. I'm sure some club team will get one helluva 'effort guy' "
You see, crap spewed like that is what gives gopher fans a bad name. seroiusly? I love when every minnesota kid stays instate and plays for the U, but then there's a select few of elite snobs (how the hell can the U of Minn fball fans have elitist status anyways) that ruin it for the rest of the real gopher fans.
unbelievable. so essentially, josh campion will be replaceable as a lightbulb?? keep trashing the outstate minnesota kids and see if that helps brewster or your next coach get quality minnesota kids.
THERE"S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN MINNESOTA LIKE ME THAT WANT TO BE BIGGER U OF MINN FANS, THAN CRAP LIKE THIS GETS SAID AND BREWSTERS BIG MOUTH...
YOU NEED TO GET US BACK AS FANS>
"Nick Rengel will never be heard from again. He is as easily replaceable as a lightbulb. I'm sure some club team will get one helluva 'effort guy' "
You see, crap spewed like that is what gives gopher fans a bad name. seroiusly? I love when every minnesota kid stays instate and plays for the U, but then there's a select few of elite snobs (how the hell can the U of Minn fball fans have elitist status anyways) that ruin it for the rest of the real gopher fans.
unbelievable. so essentially, josh campion will be replaceable as a lightbulb?? keep trashing the outstate minnesota kids and see if that helps brewster or your next coach get quality minnesota kids.
THERE"S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN MINNESOTA LIKE ME THAT WANT TO BE BIGGER U OF MINN FANS, THAN CRAP LIKE THIS GETS SAID AND BREWSTERS BIG MOUTH...
YOU NEED TO GET US BACK AS FANS>
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No offense, but you are a creepy NDSU fan who trolls the Gopher message board, i'm cool with you not being a Gopher fan. I think we realize we don't have an elite program, hence, having trolls from the NCAA Division 1a or whatever they call it now.
I also love how NDSU people act like their programs have more dignity when every player who gets kicked out of the U or can't get in academically they are clamoring after.
I hope Nick Rengal nothing but the best, even if he ends up going to NDSU. I actually thought he had a decent future at the U. However, I do question a kid who quits playing Big 10 football (who had a shot to contribute someday) to go and play at NDSU. If his issue was merely with Brewster or whatever, he could have transferred to a different Division 1 program, but when someone like Rengal transfers to a lesser quality of football, it makes me wonder about his makeup.
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How can you equate some jerks derogatory comments about a player with Brewster's rah rah speaking habits? BTW, I agree with your defense of kids being torn down by some less thoughtful posts.
For what it's worth, i think Brewster's done more good PR work for this program than any coach since Lou Holtz. He's also a better recruiter than we may have ever had, but the jury is still out on overall coaching and talent evaluator. We'll learn those things in the next 2 seasons.
You are right. All of our players need to be first round picks or they aren't any good. Guys like Matt Spaeth, who is a solid contributor on an NFL team don't have a place on any college team. After reading your posts I am convinced that all of the top teams have nothing but first round players ontheir teams. I'm confident no top team could have found time for Eric Decker. Also, I don't want Edwards as he probably won't be a top 10 pick.
Florida probably wishes they could have played without that QB who won a Heisman and a couple of National Championships - he won't be a top 10 pick.
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Okay nitwit, you think Rengal got a token offer from MN because he was from MN and he had no real other offers since they were only MAC and NDSU. Okay big guy, did all these 2010 recruits also get token offers, despite most of them NOT being from MN? Most of these offers are less impressive than Rengal's. Careful how you answer, they account for more than 1/3 of MN recruiting class:
Tyrone Bouie RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over offers from Colorado State, Delaware, East Carolina, Florida International, Memphis, Middle Tennessee State, New mexico, Purdue, UAB and Central Florida.
Zac Epping RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over offers from Central Michigan, Northern Illinois and Western Michigan.
Sean Ferguson RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over offers from Kent State and Duke.
Logan Hutton RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over interest from Illinois, Maryland, Navy, Northwestern, Penn State, Purdue and Rice. PLEASE NOTE, NO OTHER FREAKIN' OFFERS!
Marek Lenkiewicz RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over offers from Akron, Ball State, Bowling Green, Buffalo, Central Michigan, Colorado State, Eastern Michigan, Northern Illinois, Toledo and Western Michigan.
Ben Perry RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over interest from Air Force, Kansas, Pennsylvania, Stony Brook and Vanderbilt. PLEASE NOTE, NO OTHER FREAKIN' OFFERS!
JD Pride RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over interest from North Carolina, South Carolina, UCLA and Wisconsin. PLEASE NOTE, NO OTHER FREAKIN' OFFERS!
Willie Tatum RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over offers from Bowling Green, Eastern Michigan, Marshall and Ohio.
Josh Tauaefa RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over offers from Houston, Louisiana Tech, Portland State, UNLV and UTEP.
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What is said above...but with as much offense as possible you idiotic dumbass who thinks he's actually relevant in this world....
Reading quoted posts from you like this remind me why I did not even hesitate a second to put your dumbass on ignore....
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Yep - dont understand why people are offended by this so much. Its true
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You know they're freshmen, right? Are you suggesting you have some premonition of how these guys will turn out? If so, I'll meet you at the Caeser's sports book.
You have officially made the stupidest post ever on this site. I mean, you really have. That's no small feat; you've just destroyed a number of consistent bags of d0uchery. So congratulations, I guess.
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stay classy bob lodlow, or whoever you are.
NDSU can compete and beat U of Minn in any sport. Im telling you guys to quit being arrogant when you shouldn't be and that there's a TON of U of Minnesota Gopher fans out in outstate minnesota but when you trash the outstate kids and even pass on them in favor of 3 rated star from florida , than good luck.
Ive made it known many times, im a huge gopher fan when they arent playing NDSU.
NDSU can compete and beat U of Minn in any sport. Im telling you guys to quit being arrogant when you shouldn't be and that there's a TON of U of Minnesota Gopher fans out in outstate minnesota but when you trash the outstate kids and even pass on them in favor of 3 rated star from florida , than good luck.
Ive made it known many times, im a huge gopher fan when they arent playing NDSU.
You have to realize NDSU's team is 80% players from states other than North Dakota. I wonder why they keep passing up on homegrown stud North Dakota players in favor of 1 star rated guys from Minnesota and Texas? A TON of North Dakota fans are just waiting to jump on the bandwagon but it's so hard to do when the local Dakota boys keep geting snubbed for the foreigners.
Wow! Thats quite a boast. You do realize Minnesota has 23 varsity teams (men and women). So basically you are saying NDSU can beat the U in ALL of these sports? Should we go down the list or should we just note a few that would seem to disprove this theory? I'll just note one where NDSU would have zero shot as thats all you need to disprove such a statement: wrestling. Of course they would also have zero shot in other sports like Track & Field or Volleyball. I would note others but they only field 14 teams so 9 contests would be forfeits. I do think they could be competitive in football, baseball, and basketball but of course to disprove such a boast I only need to list the sports where they definitely CAN'T beat the U.
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hmm NDSU was in sweet 16 for softball, NCAA's in volleyball, and Track & Field NDSU had the #2 800 womens runner in the nation, and qualified a couple others on men's and womens side.
We have a women golfer that would be #1 at Minnesota in Amy Anderson (women amatuer champ last year).
Former Gopher Wrestler KISH will help NDSU get more wrestlers to the NCAA's besides the 2 we had this year.
Beat you in baseball, soccer, softball, FOOTBALL, and womens basketball. So relax, NDSU isnt a D3 team.
MOST NDSU FANS ARE GOPHER FANS.... SO WHY YOU RIPPING US ??
We have a women golfer that would be #1 at Minnesota in Amy Anderson (women amatuer champ last year).
Former Gopher Wrestler KISH will help NDSU get more wrestlers to the NCAA's besides the 2 we had this year.
Beat you in baseball, soccer, softball, FOOTBALL, and womens basketball. So relax, NDSU isnt a D3 team.
MOST NDSU FANS ARE GOPHER FANS.... SO WHY YOU RIPPING US ??
-Gopher's track team won the BIG 10, and Gopher's Wrestling>>>>>>>>>NDSU Jackrabbit Wrestling
-Gopher's men don't even have a soccer team?
-You beat one of the worst Gopher football teams ever. Good job
-Are you really bringing up womens basketball and softball???? Well then the year our table tennis team made it to the final 4 we were better then you guys!!!
-Does NDSU even have a hockey team?
The Jackrabbits or Sioux or Bison or w/e ur called are not D3 that's for sure, but u have a ways to go before your a Minnesota(BIG10) caliber-type program. Oh and you got ripped apart for saying things like ur bball team with Royce White would beat the gophers and that NDSU could beat the gophers in anysport, yeah I realize anything's possible, but chances of that happening are slim.
-Gopher's men don't even have a soccer team?
-You beat one of the worst Gopher football teams ever. Good job
-Are you really bringing up womens basketball and softball???? Well then the year our table tennis team made it to the final 4 we were better then you guys!!!
-Does NDSU even have a hockey team?
The Jackrabbits or Sioux or Bison or w/e ur called are not D3 that's for sure, but u have a ways to go before your a Minnesota(BIG10) caliber-type program. Oh and you got ripped apart for saying things like ur bball team with Royce White would beat the gophers and that NDSU could beat the gophers in anysport, yeah I realize anything's possible, but chances of that happening are slim.
Why don't you print out my player assessment and revisit it in 2 years and again in 3 years and see how accurate or inaccurate it is. I have a feeling I will be closer to right than wrong.
I never said ALL of our players need to be 1st round picks but we would have more success if we had one from time to time. Those players you mentioned were good but would have been better if we had better talent around them. When a guy like WVDS is your best player you will never be top tier in the Big Ten, if WVDS is a complementary player than you are on your way. WVDS never would have been a 4 year starter at OSU and that's what separates us from them.
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For what it's worth, I was looking forward to seeing Rengel play this year. I never watched him play in HS, nor have I read any comments from coaches etc., but on paper he looks awfully good. He's big and he's very fast. I would think that would make him a big asset to the gophers. I hope he stays.
For what it's worth, I was looking forward to seeing Rengel play this year. I never watched him play in HS, nor have I read any comments from coaches etc., but on paper he looks awfully good. He's big and he's very fast. I would think that would make him a big asset to the gophers. I hope he stays.
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You think we're ripping NDSU? Check out the NDSU boards, the Gophers get ripped 100 times more on the NDSU boards than NDSU gets ripped on here. But God doesn't demand as much respect as some NDSU fans seem to expect.
But you start talking smack here, you get a little smack back, and then run back to Bisonville (that assumes that you aren't currently banned from even there) to report on how "disrespectful" Gopher fans are being. If we didn't give back a tiny bit of smack in exchange, what would you do for phony outrage?
You don't like the Brewster is upbeat and optimistic about his team? GOOD. Enjoy the 6 point win by the best Bison team in ages over the worst Gopher team in ages. Tell the grandchildren about the perfect storm. They may not believe you though, they'll have to dust off the old record books to read about it, it's not going to be an experience that they are used to.
I think Lakes is really a UND fan posing as an NDSU fan to make NDSU look bad.
But you start talking smack here, you get a little smack back, and then run back to Bisonville (that assumes that you aren't currently banned from even there) to report on how "disrespectful" Gopher fans are being. If we didn't give back a tiny bit of smack in exchange, what would you do for phony outrage?
You don't like the Brewster is upbeat and optimistic about his team? GOOD. Enjoy the 6 point win by the best Bison team in ages over the worst Gopher team in ages. Tell the grandchildren about the perfect storm. They may not believe you though, they'll have to dust off the old record books to read about it, it's not going to be an experience that they are used to.
I think Lakes is really a UND fan posing as an NDSU fan to make NDSU look bad.
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Oh, lakesbison I wish you'd stop. I'm a Gopher and Bison fan. How can that be? Because they don't play at the same level and you ought to know it. Rooting for one is not rooting against the other. I suspect that's why you're here, unless, as a lot of other posters believe, you're only here to instigate. A win in football once in a blue moon and occasional victories in sports where such a thing is commonplace may provide some motivation but it sure doesn't indicate any similarity in athletic programs, be it coaches, players or facilities. As much as I knew the Bison would win that football game I now know such a win would be a pipe dream if a game were played today. Things have already changed, on both ends of the equation. NDSU is not as capable as they were that year and the Gophers not as barren in the roster department. There. I wasted an entire paragraph and a couple minutes of my life. Probably should know better.
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Im not on gopherhole to instigate, give me a break!
I have lived in minnesota my whole life, attended over 100 gopher games, season tickets in my family for hockey/football, so give me a break. It just pisses me off to see gopher fans talk down to other regional schools when they shouldnt be. and YOU SHOULD EMBRACE OLD SCHOOL GOPHER FANS LIKE ME, INSTEAD OF CHASTISING ME.
im a NDSU alum, of course I am for NDSU #1, but I am IMPORTANT enough and have enough cred. to talk and speak the way I do.
I CHEER FOR NDSU AND GOPHERS, #1 and #2, I hate the other regional teams alot more than you do.
I have lived in minnesota my whole life, attended over 100 gopher games, season tickets in my family for hockey/football, so give me a break. It just pisses me off to see gopher fans talk down to other regional schools when they shouldnt be. and YOU SHOULD EMBRACE OLD SCHOOL GOPHER FANS LIKE ME, INSTEAD OF CHASTISING ME.
im a NDSU alum, of course I am for NDSU #1, but I am IMPORTANT enough and have enough cred. to talk and speak the way I do.
I CHEER FOR NDSU AND GOPHERS, #1 and #2, I hate the other regional teams alot more than you do.
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This is the heart of the problem with your posts. NDSU IS a regional school. Minnesota IS NOT. It is a national school. The way you try to equate the two in virtually all your posts is in no way congruent with reality. The two are not competitors - never have been, and never will be. Minnesota competes in what is probably the foremost collegiate athletic conference in the country. NDSU doesn't even compete in the same conference in their two main sports. The fact that perhaps NDSU's best-ever team beat Minnesota's perhaps worst-ever team, for their only victory in the series, is irrelevant. The two schools don't compete for recruits, they don't compete for students, and they only play when Minnesota needs a local school to beat up on.
The whole thing is just ridiculous. It's like saying the St. Paul Saints and the Twins are rivals. It's like saying Chaminade and Virginia are rivals.
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For one: Stop begging-it annoys people.
Secondly: Stop posting info. about anything NDSU-it annoys people.
Lastly: Stop using so many caps-it annoys people.
Other than that... you're all good.
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I didn't trash NDSU sports, I trashed you! I hope you didn't think I meant that all NDSU fans are creepy, I actually had fun getting ribbed by a few of them a coup[le years ago. However, you on the other hand, come off as creepy. Everytime a player leaves or gets kicked out of MN, you pop up about "rumors about him going to NDSU".
You started a thread about you hearing that Royce White was going to go to the NDSU. How laughable is that? Could you imagine Royce White at NDSU? The kid is obsessed with getting attention, yet you tried to bring up an imaginary rumor you heard that Royce White was going to NDSU. If tommorow it was revealed that Sam Maresh killed his family and enjoyed their liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti, you would post here immedietly saying "word out of Fargo is that Sam Maresh is considering NDSU after he completes a jail term". So like I said, you don't need to run down the merits of the NDSU athletic program to me, I wasn't ripping on them, I was ripping on the creepiness that is Lakesbison.
Lastly, I never ripped on Rengel or in state players. I said in my post to you and on here, I actually think Rengel could have helped this program in a couple years. I love instate recruiting and I have done nothing but defend MN kids on this board. However, I do question a kid's either ability or drive to be great if he chooses to leave a BCA Conference School with 4 years of eligibility remaining to play at a school in a lesser division (not meant to be offensive, but I HOPE even you know what I mean).
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I really wish I was more computer savvy so I could post the tantrum that was a "Private Message" that Lakesbison sent to me because I called him "creepy". Hey, Lakesbison, you are grown man, you are even somewhat educated (with your Associates equivalent at NDSU), but if you are trying to prove that you aren't creepy, cursing at posters in capslock isn't the best way to do it.
However, it just goes back to my original post that sent you into a conniption fit, I am glad creepers like you aren't Gopher fans.
However, it just goes back to my original post that sent you into a conniption fit, I am glad creepers like you aren't Gopher fans.
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Do you know how to copy and paste? Highlilght the message, click edit - copy (or control c) and then edit - paste (or control v) to paste the message into a post.
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Lakes, you've long since burned out any good will you might have had. We don't have to wish NDSU well or ill. There are people here who like NDSU (despite your best efforts), there are people who dislike NDSU, there are people who don't care.
Pretty much like every other message board for every other team.
Pretty much like every other message board for every other team.
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Here's a private message he sent me back in November:
"your a fuk'n dip*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#. im a gopher fan, i grew up with the gophers, *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#, i went to 3 games this year, did you? STFU.
I was just curious if I knew anyone on the gophers 2-deep from following minn hs the past couple years.
take the tampon out, jesus christ."
You stay classy, lakesjackrabbit.
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Here's a message which I cannot confirm came from Lakes, but I'm not saying it didn't...
To: Brian Faison, Athetic Director, UND
CC: Robert Kelley, President, UND
From: LakesSioux
Subject: Operation Bison Disgrace
Operation Bison Disgrace continues as planned. I have been accepted as a genuine fan of the NDSU Bison. Although there have been close calls, when I have been banned from Bisonville, I have been successful in my mission of bringing disgrace and embarrassment to NDSU, and to Bison fans everywhere. Rest assured, where ever there is a danger of the Bison fans being seen as classy, I will be there to destroy that image. I will continue to do everything in my power to make UND look good by comparison.
Go Sioux!
LakesSioux, AKA LakesBison
To: Brian Faison, Athetic Director, UND
CC: Robert Kelley, President, UND
From: LakesSioux
Subject: Operation Bison Disgrace
Operation Bison Disgrace continues as planned. I have been accepted as a genuine fan of the NDSU Bison. Although there have been close calls, when I have been banned from Bisonville, I have been successful in my mission of bringing disgrace and embarrassment to NDSU, and to Bison fans everywhere. Rest assured, where ever there is a danger of the Bison fans being seen as classy, I will be there to destroy that image. I will continue to do everything in my power to make UND look good by comparison.
Go Sioux!
LakesSioux, AKA LakesBison