Nick Rengal leaves the program

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dpodoll68 said:
No. Again, he had 6 other DI offers besides Minnesota. They are listed above. And, you never said anything about BCS or any other such qualifiers. If you're going to shoot your mouth off in sour grapes-fashion, don't be a baby when others prove you wrong. Hope this helps.
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Those other schools are hardly schools worth mentioning, he might as well go to National American University and play football
 

bankonit said:
Those other schools are hardly schools worth mentioning, he might as well go to National American University and play football
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Say what you will, but the truth is that he was factually incorrect. When proven wrong, he ignores it and calls those offers meaningless.

Which, by the way, is exactly what you are doing now. Since getting an offer to play Division I football, at any school, is "hardly worth mentioning", please regale us with the tales of your athletic exploits and the numerous BCS-level offers you received to play football. I'm looking forward to it.

P.S. I make fun of NDSU as much as anybody, but to equate a legitimate state school that actually has competitive athletics and refuses to admit some applicants once in a while, with a school that actually has television advertisements, is ridiculous.
 

So is Rengel leaving or not?

If he is leaving, good luck to him wherever he lands.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Say what you will, but the truth is that he was factually incorrect. When proven wrong, he ignores it and calls those offers meaningless.

Which, by the way, is exactly what you are doing now. Since getting an offer to play Division I football, at any school, is "hardly worth mentioning", please regale us with the tales of your athletic exploits and the numerous BCS-level offers you received to play football. I'm looking forward to it.

P.S. I make fun of NDSU as much as anybody, but to equate a legitimate state school that actually has competitive athletics and refuses to admit some applicants once in a while, with a school that actually has television advertisements, is ridiculous.
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+1
He was wrong, admit it. No shame in admitting being wrong, digging a deeper hole on the other hand...
 

Moderator: please remove this post to the off-topic board. Even though the OP was relevant (though maybe bogus;),) the thread thanks to dpodoll68, is no longer related to Gopher Football! It is now a thread about the relative merits of NDSU or UND or UNI or some other non-Minnesota school. And not just their football teams, oh no, but a discussion of the academic natures of these institutions themselves!:mad:

"It started out as a fine example of possible football related horse play and now it's just gotten silly.":drink:
 


Iceland12 said:
Moderator: please remove this post to the off-topic board. Even though the OP was relevant (though maybe bogus;),) the thread thanks to dpodoll68, is no longer related to Gopher Football! It is now a thread about the relative merits of NDSU or UND or UNI or some other non-Minnesota school. And not just their football teams, oh no, but a discussion of the academic natures of these institutions themselves!:mad:

"It started out as a fine example of possible football related horse play and now it's just gotten silly.":drink:
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Bazinga.
 

dpodoll68 said:
No. Again, he had 6 other DI offers besides Minnesota. They are listed above. And, you never said anything about BCS or any other such qualifiers. If you're going to shoot your mouth off in sour grapes-fashion, don't be a baby when others prove you wrong. Hope this helps.
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Fine, he had no other legitimate offers. These schools are not even worth mentioning.

EDIT- and for what it's worth, I think this whole line of discussion is absolutely relevant to this thread. Rengel had no other options but Minnesota. Now, it appears he is whining about the coaching staff for some reason when they are the only ones who gave him a shot at a major program.
 


Handsome Pete said:
Fine, he had no other legitimate offers. These schools are not even worth mentioning.

EDIT- and for what it's worth, I think this whole line of discussion is absolutely relevant to this thread. Rengel had no other options but Minnesota. Now, it appears he is whining about the coaching staff for some reason when they are the only ones who gave him a shot at a major program.
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Now you're talking. I absolutely agree with the entirety of your second paragraph. Had you said that in the first place, I wouldn't have taken issue. And yes, this discussion absolutely is relevant.
 



Handsome Pete said:
EDIT- and for what it's worth, I think this whole line of discussion is absolutely relevant to this thread. Rengel had no other options but Minnesota. Now, it appears he is whining about the coaching staff for some reason when they are the only ones who gave him a shot at a major program.
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Is this the case of a kid who has been the star his whole sports life all of a sudden finding out it's lonely on the bench? Homesick?
 

bankonit said:
Those other schools are hardly schools worth mentioning, he might as well go to National American University and play football
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Interesting position you are taking. Have you looked at the other offers made for quite a number of Brewster's recruits that signed this past February? There were several with offer sheets that were not significantly different than Nick's.
 

Bayfieldgopher said:
I think you have Brewster confused with Glen Mason. Masons last three or four classes averaged close to 50% early departure rate. Not acceptable. And we wonder why we have had so little depth lately.
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Agreed. I do not like to see ANY kid leave. If there is one real pet peeve of mine it's all the posters who whoop it up when a kid commits, then when he leaves after a year or two then it's good riddance - we didn't need him anyways.

Mason had way too many kids leave early and it is virtually impossible to have a lot of quality depth when you lose half the class before they hit their junior year.
 

For what it is worth, Rengel has contacted NDSU coaches. I presume he has contacted other IAA schools as well looking for a home. Brewster seemed to be saying he hoped he would come back, I don't think that is going to happen.
 



bankonit said:
Those other schools are hardly schools worth mentioning, he might as well go to National American University and play football
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Since you didn't answer my previous post, I'll answer the question for you.

Tyrone Bouie RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over offers from Colorado State, Delaware, East Carolina, Florida International, Memphis, Middle Tennessee State, New mexico, Purdue, UAB and Central Florida.

Zac Epping RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over offers from Central Michigan, Northern Illinois and Western Michigan.

Sean Ferguson RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over offers from Kent State and Duke.

Logan Hutton RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over interest from Illinois, Maryland, Navy, Northwestern, Penn State, Purdue and Rice. PLEASE NOTE, NO OTHER FREAKIN' OFFERS!

Marek Lenkiewicz RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over offers from Akron, Ball State, Bowling Green, Buffalo, Central Michigan, Colorado State, Eastern Michigan, Northern Illinois, Toledo and Western Michigan.

Ben Perry RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over interest from Air Force, Kansas, Pennsylvania, Stony Brook and Vanderbilt. PLEASE NOTE, NO OTHER FREAKIN' OFFERS!

JD Pride RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over interest from North Carolina, South Carolina, UCLA and Wisconsin. PLEASE NOTE, NO OTHER FREAKIN' OFFERS!

Willie Tatum RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over offers from Bowling Green, Eastern Michigan, Marshall and Ohio.

Josh Tauaefa RECRUITING: Selected Minnesota over offers from Houston, Louisiana Tech, Portland State, UNLV and UTEP.

You and Pete made it sound like Rengel is no loss because he wasn't highly recruited by an impressive schools other than Minnesota. Well, I don't think the offer sheets for the players listed above are any more impressive than Rengel's, some are significantly less impressive.

Do you and Pete think these men aren't worth recruiting because of who MN was competing against? If they leave the program in the future, will their recruitment by MN be unimportant because they really had no other choice than MN?

I think the coaches saw something in Rengel, just like the guys listed above, and I don't think pimples like you should trash them because of your perception of their offer sheets or of other football programs.

Although I guess I have to admire your sense of entitlement.
 

see you this summer Nick!! you'll enjoy going down to TCF in 2011 and beating big mouth brewster!!
 

Sumtimegophs said:
For what it is worth, Rengel has contacted NDSU coaches. I presume he has contacted other IAA schools as well looking for a home. Brewster seemed to be saying he hoped he would come back, I don't think that is going to happen.
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It is called coachspeak.
 

Some players come, Some players go,
Some players peter out, you know.

But some are players thru thick or thin,
Peter out or peter in.
 

Sumtimegophs said:
Interesting position you are taking. Have you looked at the other offers made for quite a number of Brewster's recruits that signed this past February? There were several with offer sheets that were not significantly different than Nick's.
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Rengal got a token offer from Brewster because he is a Minnesota boy and it looks good PR wise to old people who like to see "Minnesota" next to some players names on the roster, same reason JD Pride got an offer and John Nance. It is a win win situation when they transfer and open their scholarship back up, Brewster gave the Minnesota kid a chance and the kid decided a smaller school with less competition is a better fit.
 

bankonit said:
Rengal got a token offer from Brewster because he is a Minnesota boy and it looks good PR wise to old people who like to see "Minnesota" next to some players names on the roster, same reason JD Pride got an offer and John Nance. It is a win win situation when they transfer and open their scholarship back up, Brewster gave the Minnesota kid a chance and the kid decided a smaller school with less competition is a better fit.
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What if you stopped being such a penis? What about that?
 




bankonit said:
Rengal got a token offer from Brewster because he is a Minnesota boy and it looks good PR wise to old people who like to see "Minnesota" next to some players names on the roster, same reason JD Pride got an offer and John Nance. It is a win win situation when they transfer and open their scholarship back up, Brewster gave the Minnesota kid a chance and the kid decided a smaller school with less competition is a better fit.
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So you really want to compare the token offers to JD Pride and John Nance with Rengel's offer. Well lets see those offers were made to try and lure their best friends and potential all-american recruits Michael Floyd and Seantrel Henderson. Please tell me the star recruit we were trying to get with the "token" offer to Rengel? The fact is you are clueless and you were the one making the guarantee that Seantrel would sign here, and when he didn't you ripped him because he made you look like an idiot( not hard to do by the way).
 

GopherGod said:
So you really want to compare the token offers to JD Pride and John Nance with Rengel's offer. Well lets see those offers were made to try and lure their best friends and potential all-american recruits Michael Floyd and Seantrel Henderson. Please tell me the star recruit we were trying to get with the "token" offer to Rengel? The fact is you are clueless and you were the one making the guarantee that Seantrel would sign here, and when he didn't you ripped him because he made you look like an idiot( not hard to do by the way).
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just because they are token in different ways does not mean they are any less token. And I do not recall ripping Seantrel, Sean on the otherhand...
 

Nick Rengel will never be heard from again. He is as easily replaceable as a lightbulb. I'm sure some club team will get one helluva 'effort guy'
 

bankonit said:
just because they are token in different ways does not mean they are any less token. And I do not recall ripping Seantrel, Sean on the otherhand...
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If it was a "token" offer then why was it given, since token offers are normally given to try and get something else in return. The token offer was probably given to Rengel so that Brewster could establish in-roads into the powerful division 1 factory line of a high school program he came from, right?
 

GopherGod said:
If it was a "token" offer then why was it given, since token offers are normally given to try and get something else in return. The token offer was probably given to Rengel so that Brewster could establish in-roads into the powerful division 1 factory line of a high school program he came from, right?
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The something else in return is a "Minnesota" kid for people to see on the roster, for some people they like to have a few Minnesota kids on the roster rather than a team made up of kids from everywhere else but here. I would probably only offer the #1 rated Minnesota kid and save the rest of the scholarships for more talented kids.
 

bankonit said:
The something else in return is a "Minnesota" kid for people to see on the roster, for some people they like to have a few Minnesota kids on the roster rather than a team made up of kids from everywhere else but here. I would probably only offer the #1 rated Minnesota kid and save the rest of the scholarships for more talented kids.
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You never cease to amaze me. First, I remember you saying Dave Winfield would not be a successful athlete today. Now, the above ?!? Wow.

Marion Barber, Mike Lehan, Dominique Barber, Eric Decker, Matt Spaeth, etc, etc, etc. They were all kind of average.

While we're at it, let's tell Lamonte Edwards and Jimmy Gjere that we don't want them, they weren't the top recruit in the state. Maybe Hageman should just transfer before we see what he might be able to do. He's just not a good enough athlete - can't be, he's from Minnesota and he wasn't the unanimous number one recruit.
 

bankonit said:
The something else in return is a "Minnesota" kid for people to see on the roster, for some people they like to have a few Minnesota kids on the roster rather than a team made up of kids from everywhere else but here. I would probably only offer the #1 rated Minnesota kid and save the rest of the scholarships for more talented kids.
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If your logic was true there are plenty of Minnesota kids that Brewster could have given the offer to that come from high power programs in the state that we are likely to get more players from in the future, versus Rengel's high school. Please explain then why the "token" offer was given to Rengel and also while we are at it, tell me what happened with your guarantee that Seantrel would sign here?
 

GopherGod said:
If your logic was true there are plenty of Minnesota kids that Brewster could have given the offer to that come from high power programs in the state that we are likely to get more players from in the future, versus Rengel's high school. Please explain then why the "token" offer was given to Rengel and also while we are at it, tell me what happened with your guarantee that Seantrel would sign here?
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I have already told you 3 times why Rengal was given a scholarship, however you believe he is a shoe in to win the Biletnikoff Award and I am not going to convince you otherwise. As far as Seantrel goes, he is an 18 year old kid (and a head case at that) and they change their minds and his dad happened along with many under the table "perks" and shady promises.
 

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