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Edsall has averaged 8 wins a season over the last 4 years, that works for me.
 

howeda7 said:
It might not be correct to say I was higher on him. More like, when the whole Brew to Kansas thing was blowing up, he was one of the ones I wanted considered, along with David Cutcliff. This time, we've had much more time to look into everyone available, and there are many I like better then Edsal. I also didn't realize how old he is then.

That said, why is it unreasonable if I think his stock has dropped? 5 weeks ago they were 3-4 in a bad conference. I pretty much soured on him them. Their rally is admirable, but they haven't beat anyone even as good as Iowa during the stretch, IMO. So I don't find it inspiring enough to vault him ahead of younger guys with more upside like Hoke and Calhoun.

Put another way, if UConn were playing SDSU or Air Force today on a neutral field, I don't think they would win. Why do I have to like Edsal more because he might get to a BCS game?
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Well I was just going from the comment that you have soured on him. If the reasoning that you really liked him last year but like others better this year is because you are looking into it more and have seen other candidates that you like better that you didn't consider, that is legitimate.

If the reason you have soured on him is on field performance (how i read what you said), you are insane. He is about to win his conference.
 

This is a predictable Maturi underwhelming selection.
He may get us a level above Mason but not a title.

I could be wrong
 

Rosemountian said:
Keep in mind he is the coach at UCONN.
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UConn is no prize in football, but neither are Cincy, Rutgers, South Florida, or Syracuse. They're not at some huge disadvantage in their conference.
 



WE DO NOT KNOW WHO IT IS OR EVEN IF WHAT ZACH STATED IS TRUE...
 

While Edsall is getting a lot of play in this thread, there are a lot of other coaches whose teams played (are playing) this weekend: Riley, Peterson, Kill, Stoops, and Schiano amongst them. Someone took the time to create a whole list in another thread, but I'm too lazy to locate it!
 

Rosemountian said:
Well I was just going from the comment that you have soured on him. If the reasoning that you really liked him last year but like others better this year is because you are looking into it more and have seen other candidates that you like better that you didn't consider, that is legitimate.

If the reason you have soured on him is on field performance (how i read what you said), you are insane. He is about to win his conference.
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Safe to say it's both I guess. And considering I don't think UConn could win the Mountain west I don't think it's insane if I am underwhelmed that Edsall guided his team to 7 or 8 wins in a bad conference. If they lose today, which could easily happen, they will be 7-5 and finish 3rd in an 8 team conference. Does that really give you chills?

I don't think Edsall is the worst candidate that's been mentioned not by a long-shot. But I will be under-whelmed. I see him as having less downside then many of the others, but less upside as well. He will get us back to Mason-level. I see nothing to indicate he'll get us beyond it and if he does he'll be nearing retirement by the time it happens.
 

howeda7 said:
UConn is no prize in football, but neither are Cincy, Rutgers, South Florida, or Syracuse. They're not at some huge disadvantage in their conference.
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I would say it is on par with Rutgers (but is in a tougher recruiting area.)
It is slightly behind Cincy, Syracuse, and South Florida.

He is not at some major disadvantage in the conference, but to expect him to be dominating from UConn is ridiculous.
 



If it is Edsall we are geting a class act who can coach. Just remember last year when his team dealt with the death of a teammate and he kept the team together and headed in the right direction. It may not be the sexiest hire but I think we are getting a good coach and a even better person. JMO.
 


howeda7 said:
Safe to say it's both I guess. And considering I don't think UConn could win the Mountain west I don't think it's insane if I am underwhelmed that Edsall guided his team to 7 or 8 wins in a bad conference.

I don't think Edsall is the worst candidate that's been mentioned not by a long-shot. But I will be under-whelmed. I see him as having less downside then many of the others, but less upside as well. He will get us back to Mason-level. I see nothing to indicate he'll get us beyond it and if he does he'll be nearing retirement by the time it happens.
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Okay then.
He is 52 is he not?
Who else is 52, Brady Hoke?
Jerry Kill is 49.

Pulling the age argument out is really a reach.
 

Rosemountian said:
I would say it is on par with Rutgers (but is in a tougher recruiting area.)
It is slightly behind Cincy, Syracuse, and South Florida.

He is not at some major disadvantage in the conference, but to expect him to be dominating from UConn is ridiculous.
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I wasn't trying to say he needed to dominate it. It was a reply to another comment.
 




howeda7 said:
I wasn't trying to say he needed to dominate it. It was a reply to another comment.
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Apparently for you he does need to dominate it. Because simply winning it has made you think less of him as a coaching candidate.
 

Everybody panic! The new coach is going to be named soon, and whoever it is he's no good. If he is any good, he'll leave for another job next year - may not even wait until the season is over. If we go to the Rosebowl, that will be the year California finally has that big earthquake.

I'm mad because I don't have the slightest idea what's going on, but I'm madder still because I don't like what's going on.

It's got to be Edsall because we have absolutely no idea if he has even been contacted. What more proof do you need?
 

Rosemountian said:
Okay then.
He is 52 is he not?
Who else is 52, Brady Hoke?
Jerry Kill is 49.

Pulling the age argument out is really a reach.
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It's a minor negative in his column. Not a huge deal. I forget that Hoke is the same age. He still feels like he has more upside to me. If he'd been at SDSU for 10 years, I'd probably feel the same about him as Edsall.

I'd rather have Edsall then Kill.
 


Wheaton said:
Jerry Kill is 49? I thought he was older
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I guess I always had assumed he was too. His age makes his past health problems even more amazing. Tough for a guy to have to go through that at such a young age.
 

Suppose it is Chryst! I wonder if Chryst would be available for Wisconsin's bowl game then? Interesting thought isn't it?
 

Wheaton said:
Those stats sound an awful lot like Rich Rod. Meaning an offensive genius that should be an OC not a head coach.
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Installing an offense or defense requires a great deal of preparation and coordination. An OC like Malzahn will have an in-depth understanding of what everyone on the field is doing as well as an understanding of how to adjust a scheme to approach a defense. In addition, the OC is responsible for coordinating the other assistant coaches and takes a lot of ownership of player preparation and motivation.

While it is by no means a sure-fire indicator of head coaching ability, being a coordinator requires a number of the same skills as being a head coach, just on a smaller scale. That is why Brewster had a tough time and a guy like Chip Kelly is doing well. One had no experience doing any of that, and one had a great deal of experience doing it all. Kelly clearly had the football knowledge, so he worked as an OC under Bellotti to learn the rest. Now you see the results. I think Malzahn will be the same way. Getting him now would be a steal.
 

The Wind Blew.
The $hit Flew.
We won't know nuttin
For a Week or Two.
 

Well driving around a couple of hours ago, I caught a college segment on Fox Sports (now the KFAN national network). The college football analyst, some guy name Pete something-or-other (weird last name) said that Brady Hoke is the best "move-up" candidate currently in the coaching ranks. Found that interesting.
 

Rosemountian said:
Apparently for you he does need to dominate it. Because simply winning it has made you think less of him as a coaching candidate.
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He hasn't won anything yet. If they lose AT USF tonight he'll be 7-5 with 3 of the wins over Texas Southern, Buffalo and Vandy. And instead of winning, he'll be in a 3-way tie for 3rd. I simply resent the notion that I can't have soured on the guy purely because me might be one win away from getting crushed by VT/FSU in the Orange Bowl.

And good lord, I don't mind Edsall. You make it sound like I hate the guy. I merely said I used to be higher on him and what he's done this year, combined with other factors makes me less high on him.
 

Edsall's recruiting does not look great.

Ranking Big East
2010 8th
2009 6th
2008 8th
2007 7th
2006 7th
 

howeda7 said:
He hasn't won anything yet. If they lose AT USF tonight he'll be 7-5 with 3 of the wins over Texas Southern, Buffalo and Vandy. And instead of winning, he'll be in a 3-way tie for 3rd. I simply resent the notion that I can't have soured on the guy purely because me might be one win away from getting crushed by VT/FSU in the Orange Bowl.

And good lord, I don't mind Edsall. You make it sound like I hate the guy. I merely said I used to be higher on him and what he's done this year, combined with other factors makes me less high on him.
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I merely said Minnesota is the only place in the country with a 40+ year title drought where the fans could see a guy winning the conference title and downgrade him in terms of what they thought of him as a candidate the year before.


Then I asked. Are you listening to yourself?



If you are offended by my analysis of your opinion, then crap it up your cramhole
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Johnny Olson said:
Edsall is a bad recruiter

Ranking Big East
2010 8th
2009 6th
2008 8th
2007 7th
2006 7th
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I love seeing a bunch of 4 or 5 stars as anyone and do see a connection between stars and solid programs, but I also want to know what he accomplishes with the players he gets. Sounds like he does pretty well.
 

Johnny Olson said:
Edsall is a bad recruiter

Ranking Big East
2010 8th
2009 6th
2008 8th
2007 7th
2006 7th
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But he wins... and the budget he has to work with is not much... plus, it's a hoops school, and don't they play their home games 30-miles from campus? Not that I would love an Edsall hiring, but easy to see why his recruiting rankings are low.
 

Mack Brown couldn't finish in the top half of Big East recruiting recruiting from Connecticut.
People greatly underestimate what a hard place to win UConn is.
 

He does coach players way up, still his recruiting will have to improve in order to compete with the higher ups in the Big Ten.
 

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