My personal opinion of TCU

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I think they go 8-4.

Hard to catch lightning in a bottle twice.


Oklahoma State will be a 7-9 win team on the road.
@ Oklahoma will be tough.
Baylor will be gunning for confirmation regardless of both teams' standings.
Texas will be looking to make an early statement.
Minnesota is tricky on the road.
West Virginia almost got them last year.
@Kansas State is never a gimme.




Between those 7 games I think they lose 4.
I might be off my rocker....but it will be a little different this year with everyone gunning for them and high expectations. People forget quickly that including last season TCU is 23 - 15 over the past 3.
People also forget that last year TCU was playing a style TCU had never played before.



Tell me I am wrong.
 


2nd year of their offensive system should be better than the first, and they're returning essentially everyone on that side of the ball.

If their defense can hold opponents under 30 a game they'll win at least 10 games IMO
 


TCU is 10-2 at worst, undefeated at best, IF Boykin remains healthy all season. The key to beating them is slowing him down.
 


Well some guy I will bet anything you want that TCU wins 9 or more games.
 

Factchecker said:
Well some guy I will bet anything you want that TCU wins 9 or more games.
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So if I am off by one game you get it all?
That seems fair

Especially when I could get the under at 10.5 at some places in Vegas.
 

Well you said you think they will go 8-4 and I think they will win more. Just trying to find out how confident you are in the statement ypu made.
 




Factchecker said:
Well you said you think they will go 8-4 and I think they will win more. Just trying to find out how confident you are in the statement ypu made.
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Not confident enough to take worse odds from you then I could get anywhere else
 

So do you really believe that TCU will go 8-4 or were you just saying it for attention?
 

Factchecker said:
So do you really believe that TCU will go 8-4 or were you just saying it for attention?
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I do think TCU will go 8-4.
I see them finishing 3rd or 4th in the big 12 behind Oklahoma, Baylor, and possibly Oklahoma state.


Really hard to do what they did last year again.

Wouldn't be surprised if I was wrong. But I do think they will have a down year compared to last year.


Although now that I just thought through this I probably should have said 9-3
 

I think TCU isn't as good as last year because they replace 7 key players on defense and their defensive coordinator. If their back 7 play slips they will definately go backwards. Six of their seven losses including five starters are from the back seven. They will be much more vulnerable on defense, also they are very senior laden on offense with a lack of depth, injuries could be a factor.
 



nsmike said:
I think TCU isn't as good as last year because they replace 7 key players on defense and their defensive coordinator. If their back 7 play slips they will definately go backwards. Six of their seven losses including five starters are from the back seven. They will be much more vulnerable on defense, also they are very senior laden on offense with a lack of depth, injuries could be a factor.
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They'll reload, but hopefully the Gophers will catch them slipping with the adjustments they have to make with all the new faces. The Gophers will come more prepared this time.
 

hungan1 said:
They'll reload, but hopefully the Gophers will catch them slipping with the adjustments they have to make with all the new faces. The Gophers will come more prepared this time.
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All their linebackers except one will be either RS or true fresmen.
 

I've heard his opinion as well. They surprised some people with their offense and with a lights out defense it was a lethal combination. The thing is they lose quite a few pieces on defense (secondary) and people have had a chance to spend a year reviewing the tape. I think Boykin is either going to be the second coming or he going to completely fizzle. I heard an opinion that if they don't blow us out they aren't for real. Take that for what it's worth.
 

The question is, do one of those losses occurs against Minnesota? I think your statement is poorly thought out and wishful thinking. I will give you TCU's opponent and 7 points in every game this year.
 

This is the most important nonconference game ever for the Gophers. I am so looking forward to September 3rd!

Imagine the impact on recruiting.
 

nsmike said:
I think TCU isn't as good as last year because they replace 7 key players on defense and their defensive coordinator. If their back 7 play slips they will definately go backwards. Six of their seven losses including five starters are from the back seven. They will be much more vulnerable on defense, also they are very senior laden on offense with a lack of depth, injuries could be a factor.
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The defense being vulnerable isn't what will cost them. it would be an offense that is projected to be a juggernaut not performing
 

HoustonTXGopher said:
The question is, do one of those losses occurs against Minnesota? I think your statement is poorly thought out and wishful thinking. I will give you TCU's opponent and 7 points in every game this year.[/

This isn't the first guy to say TCU is being overhyped in the past few months. It's actually becoming quite fashionable.

I am in agreement that they will be worse than last year for the following reasons: Its extremely difficult to replicate success. Boykin is being extremely overhyped. He's very inconsistent. He will not win the Heisman. The defense won't touch last years, for multiple reasons. All of the chirping about being in the playoff, and the high initial ranking, will put a target on them. They're not surprising anyone this year. Gophers fans aren't the only ones saying "can you imagine what it will do to recruiting?" Every team they play this year has that game on the calendar.

My take: 3 losses because of some early traps, and headhunters within their conference (which is still a nice season in that conference, by the way). Another blistering finish to their season with even more "coulda, woulda, shoulda." One of those three losses does not come to the Gophers. I expect them to play lights-out against the Gophers on natty tv, and blow the doors off of TCF, to try and stick it to committee, followed by a huge let down in the following weeks.

Oh, and man up your bet a little if you want to get cocky, and I'll take it. 7 points is a joke in college ball, especially that conference where multiple teams put up 50 on a seemingly weekly basis, and running backs are extinct. Give me 10 and throw out SMU, Texas Tech, Kansas, and Stephen F Austin (total Gimmes for you. Who in their right mind takes Stephen F Austin with ONE touchdown against a top 5. That is just lunacy.), and you're on.
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TheBulldog said:
HoustonTXGopher said:
The question is, do one of those losses occurs against Minnesota? I think your statement is poorly thought out and wishful thinking. I will give you TCU's opponent and 7 points in every game this year.[/

This isn't the first guy to say TCU is being overhyped in the past few months. It's actually becoming quite fashionable.

I am in agreement that they will be worse than last year for the following reasons: Its extremely difficult to replicate success. Boykin is being extremely overhyped. He's very inconsistent. He will not win the Heisman. The defense won't touch last years, for multiple reasons. All of the chirping about being in the playoff, and the high initial ranking, will put a target on them. They're not surprising anyone this year. Gophers fans aren't the only ones saying "can you imagine what it will do to recruiting?" Every team they play this year has that game on the calendar.

My take: 3 losses because of some early traps, and headhunters within their conference (which is still a nice season in that conference, by the way). Another blistering finish to their season with even more "coulda, woulda, shoulda." One of those three losses does not come to the Gophers. I expect them to play lights-out against the Gophers on natty tv, and blow the doors off of TCF, to try and stick it to committee, followed by a huge let down in the following weeks.

Oh, and man up your bet a little if you want to get cocky, and I'll take it. 7 points is a joke in college ball, especially that conference where multiple teams put up 50 on a seemingly weekly basis, and running backs are extinct. Give me 10 and throw out SMU, Texas Tech, Kansas, and Stephen F Austin (total Gimmes for you. Who in their right mind takes Stephen F Austin with ONE touchdown against a top 5. That is just lunacy.), and you're on.
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Why would you throw out games you could potentially win? Since they're total gimmies in your eyes, why not just ask for the 10 across the board?
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They may just fold up shop after they get beat the first week. ;)

They are, after all, having to play lowly Minnesota for crying out loud. There's no possible way they don't win by 3 scores, right?! That very well could happen, but I think TCU and their fans may be in for a little awakening on September 3rd. Our boys will be ready!
 

HoustonTXGopher said:
The question is, do one of those losses occurs against Minnesota? I think your statement is poorly thought out and wishful thinking. I will give you TCU's opponent and 7 points in every game this year.
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I am not sure at all on the gophers this year. I wouldn't bet on a gopher game until I have seen a few. Especially against a good opponent.

I think there is a chance they win 10-11 games. I also think there is a chance they win 6-7 games.


I wouldn't take that TCU bet because TCU will beat Iowa state, Texas Tech, Kansas, stephen F Austin, and SMU all by more than 7. Meaning I would have to go 7-0 in the other 7 games to win. And 6-1 to break even.
 

You're not crazy. If there's one team I'm banking on taking a little step back this season, it's TCU. They were spectacular last season, but they have to replace 3 All-American caliber gamechangers on defense and I think they're benefiting from the classic bowl bump (see: 2012 WV and 2014 Oklahoma).

Bill Connelly is a very respected college football mind and statician. He more or less agrees: http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/7/10/8909323/tcu-football-2015-preview-schedule-roster

Keep in mind, while their offense last year was very good, they were still only 17th in the country in efficiency on a play by play basis (Georgia Tech, OU, Michigan St, Boise St, examples of teams that were better). Don't underestimate how many points your offense will put up when you play in a conference widely dominated by hurry up/no-huddle offense and your defense leads the country in forcing three-and-outs (Top 5 defense in efficiency). TCU had TONS of possessions last year. Their rise was due to their suffocating defense staying as good as always and their offense going from bad to very good (not great).
 

Some guy said:
I think they go 8-4.

Hard to catch lightning in a bottle twice.
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Here's their record by year. Not sure what you mean by "twice"
2014: 12-1
13: 4-8
12: 7-6
11: 11-2
10: 13-0
09: 12-1
08: 11-2
07: 8-5
06: 11-2
05: 11-1
 

The Lorax said:
Here's their record by year. Not sure what you mean by "twice"
2014: 12-1
13: 4-8
12: 7-6
11: 11-2
10: 13-0
09: 12-1
08: 11-2
07: 8-5
06: 11-2
05: 11-1
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If they were still playing in the mountain west I would be more confident in their ability to have another 11 win season.


34-23 against current P5 teams and BYU in that timeframe you just listed. If you take out last year they were 24-22 during the other years.

I may be off by a game or two. I just quickly glanced at their schedules.
 

Still waiting on a rebuttal from the lorax
 

As a Frog fan I think 2012/2013 we suffered severe QB injury problem and made the mistake of promoting a position coach to OC after our other OC left to coach Memphis. We are starting to steal big recruits from OU and Texas, we have a better coach than any team in the Big 12. Not just saying this as a homer fan, but if we lose any more than 3 games in a season over the next 5 years I will be really shocked. We may slip up or have and off week this year, but 10-2 is as bad as it gets for us this regular season.
 

You do have an outstanding HC. A step back for the D. Boykin an exciting Q B, but significantly overhyped. 9-3 would be a nice year for you. You could be better next year.
 

Some guy said:
Still waiting on a rebuttal from the lorax
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The answer is simple: Texas and Oklahoma are down, and Baylor are what they always are. Frauds. Plus the TCU-Baylor game is in Fort Worth this year.
 

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