Mo Walker's Mom takes a shot at Teague on Twitter

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Mulligan said:
You mean like merge two athletic departments, one headed by a Chris Voelz; or having a football stadium built on his watch; or hiring Jerry Kill? Might even add hiring Tubby, a move than got damn near everyone excited. Didn't like things like some coaches' extensions or the deal he made for himself at the end, but this narrative of yours as Maturi never getting anything done continues to be false.
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Amen.
 

Because Pitino has that East Coast attitude, you know, he's not one of us:)
 

Bad Gopher said:
I'd hire Isaiah Dahlman. It must have been a bitter pill for HIM to swallow after many years in basketball, but he handled his plight with class and grace.
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Dahlman never played at MSU and by year 2, probably knew he never would. Let's wait and see if Pitino is classy enough to burn a scholarship for 4-5 years for a guy who will never be in the rotation. I doubt it personally.

Serious question: What do you think/know Elliot did that was so negative?
 

Winnipegopher said:
Serious question: What do you think/know Elliot did that was so negative?
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I'm curious also. Elliot was consistently getting 10-12 minutes until Wisconsin. I know several times watching the bench in The Barn or on TV up until then I noticed Elliot totally into the game, jumping up on the floor to quickly join the huddle, and even waving a towel a couple of times. Remember thinking how well he was handling the reduced minutes. Didn't ever notice him after Wisconsin when he basically was benched. I guess of the seniors I feel the sorriest for him. Not sure anyone is to blame. Pitino is doing what he thinks is best. Elliot seems to be reacting in a very understandable manner. Can't be easy at the end of nearly five years to be told you're not valued. It's big time basketball.
 

Maybe Mama Walker should be thanking Pitino for getting her baby boy into basketball playing shape.
 


mnsportsgeek said:
Maybe Mama Walker should be thanking Pitino for getting her baby boy into basketball playing shape.
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I thought the same thing. A D1 athlete weighing 350 pounds would probably have become a non-D1 athlete weighing 400+ lbs. These two years likely completely changed and maybe saved his life, basketball or no basketball. Maybe he would have changed, maybe not. But I'd forget the handshake personally.
 

Winnipegopher said:
Dahlman never played at MSU and by year 2, probably knew he never would. Let's wait and see if Pitino is classy enough to burn a scholarship for 4-5 years for a guy who will never be in the rotation. I doubt it personally.

Serious question: What do you think/know Elliot did that was so negative?
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I know nothing. I can only infer and observe. But I think I'm a good observer of people - including myself, who I'm not very impressed with either!

I too wonder whether or what Elliott might have done. But the playing time was cut off suddenly.
 


Mo's Mom:

Was she a great, big, fat person?

She was a big girl, sir...
 




If you look through Walker's mom's twitter feed, she also gripes about not starting the 5 seniors on Senior Day (namely, Mo not starting on senior day). She also has at least two recent thank you's to Tubby and staff, but nothing for the current staff. And she gripes about Walker and Hollins not being on the floor at the end of one of the recent losses (I think Wisconsin, not sure).

I agree though that surely this reflects a deeper annoyance/frustration, and it's not hard to guess what it is. Losing wears on everyone. If we as fans are frustrated and angry with the results of this team, and critical of the leadership and performance of these seniors, then imagine what's going on behind closed doors. Probably not a lot of great feelings in either direction. I can't imagine our coaching staff feels great about the performance of these seniors, and I'm sure the players' parents think it's not their kids' fault.
 

The whole point of Senior Day is to recognize the seniors, AD included. I agree with the Mom. It is a bit odd not to have the AD on the floor with the players glad handing them a bit. Isn't this the type of thing we expect out of life and it makes things nice. I don't get the negative vibe. How hard is it to shake a guys hand after all.
 

The-Real-Truth said:
Bga1, we all saw what he did to Foster and Elis. I think the person who is classless here is not Mrs. Walker. I think most parents would demand the same thing.
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you and I remember foster and ellis very differently. (Well I'll give you foster he was kinda kicked) Ellis asked out of his scholarship and ended up at a (currently)better team.

As for the comments on twitter, those feelings are legitimate but airing them out in a public forum like twitter is also wrong. Social media 101, don't air grievances out on social media. It rarely helps anything change and often just antagonizes the situation.
 



As a parent, I can understand how a mom would be unhappy with the coaching change. Perhaps from her perspective, We went from a venerable old school African American man/role model to a smartass punk kid. A big shift.
While I'm not in favor of her move, I hope Teague & Co. take the message. Those little things mean a lot. Honoring people is always a good idea for the program in its entirety.
 

Its funny because I have a friend who met most. And he told him that he loved pitino and hated playing for tubby. Even made a joke that he wished pitino had recruited but he wouldn't have because he was too fat. So based off of that this thread seemns out if left field but then again as someone whose coached hockey at many levels the nicest kids can have the craziest parents.
 

I do wish however they did more senior day as always liked what monsoon did give a speech about each kid afterwards
 

bemidjigopher said:
I do wish however they did more senior day as always liked what monsoon did give a speech about each kid afterwards
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I like all the different ways of spelling Monson. But this is the first time I've seen it as a tropical wind storm :clap:
 

bemidjigopher said:
I do wish however they did more senior day as always liked what monsoon did give a speech about each kid afterwards
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Despite my jokes, I agree with your comment. Clem also gave speeches and generally made a big deal about senior day. It was a nice way to close out the season.
 

No became twice the player he was after Pitino arrived. He is actually the one player who has improved the most. But there wasn't much growth from any other seniors from last year to this year.
 

I know he isnt a senior and I know he takes a ton on criticism on the board but Joey king has improved a lot over the past year too.
 

This thread is ridiculous. Stop bashing a player's mother and just stop making crap up. Mo has had a good career at the U and we should all thank him and his family for his dedication and efforts.

The tweats are just a parent reacting to the action outloud. Similar to someone yelling out comments or instruction during a game. Don't go trying to Turn it into some sort of internal revolt against the current coaches. I do agree that the AD should have made a bigger effort on senior day, he maybe just didn't think about it. Not everything is intensional.


Remember that this is a public forum. The people you smear can read it. If you think your comments are so funny, why don't you say it directly to their face.
 

A few thoughts...

- Teague should have been on the court and greeted the family's. That's a no-brainer. It's free and glad handing is one of his strongest suits.

- Mama Walker shouldn't have aired her grievances out on Twitter.

- Every single Senior should have transferred when Pitino took over. Not one of them was better served by the faster pace. No one "regressed", square pegs just got inserted into round holes.

- Pitino did a good job holding this team together during trying times, but he is not without fault. I remember a year ago a person literally couldn't criticize anything about Pitino, nothing! Today we can see more clearly. He's a talented young coach, who's going to make a few mistakes along the way.

- Pitino deserves credit for motivating Mo Walker to lose 50 pounds, but in all fairness he'd lost 35 pounds under Tubby so the ball was already in motion. Also, he didn't get fat under Tubby because he was allowed to be lazy, he got fat under Tubby because he couldn't run, or even walk on a treadmill for over a year due to a particularly grizzly knee injury. If you recall, when he returned he could only get up and down the court a couple times before he'd have to sit. By the end of the year he was playing extended minutes due to the weight loss.

- Elliot's attitude didn't do him any favors apparently, but on the other hand, who wouldn't have been frustrated in his situation? Elliot got himself into the best shape, pound for pound of anyone on the team. His conditioning was absolutely amazing for a big. Pitino said as much and Elliot played big minutes for Pitino for quite a while. His downfall was that he couldn't score and we needed a scorer down low to take some heat off our shooters. What we gained in scoring with Mo, we lost in everything else. Mo is the Carlos Morris of the Center position and anyone who's competitive and plays hard would be going nuts having to sit behind that guy. Hard work is supposed to pay off, but sometimes it doesn't. Life's not fair and Elliot's an emotional guy.

- Dre Hollins should have been on the first plane out when we signed Pitino. He was an excellent player in Tubby's half court game, especially with the ball in his hands to create off of screens/picks, etc. In Pitino's system he was asked to run around and get open so we could find him for open spot up jumpers. He had major problems running around in circles trying to beat quicker players to his spot on the floor.

- Lil Dre reminds of me Julian Welch. A Juco who's just good enough to patch the hole for a couple years, but not good enough to take us anywhere. Also like Welch, or a like a young pitcher in baseball, he was good the first time through the lineup, but by his second year the scouts had figured him out. That happens to players with limited ability.

- I hope we play the younger guys through any tournament we accept and look forward to starting next year with a bunch of new faces and a clean slate.
 

Dr.Don said:
All he got was free education.

Handshakes spread germs. :banghead::banghead::banghead:
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That's why you wear gloves. To make it clear there is a social distance between you and the athlete's parent...

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i always thought it was weird to have the AD on the floor with the seniors shaking hands and getting pictures taken. If I was a senior in that situation I wouldn't want Norwood Teague in my senior day picture with my parents and girlfriend. It always looked like a politician trying to grab the spotlight away from where it should be shining- on the players.
 



Minnesconsin fan said:
i always thought it was weird to have the AD on the floor with the seniors shaking hands and getting pictures taken. If I was a senior in that situation I wouldn't want Norwood Teague in my senior day picture with my parents and girlfriend. It always looked like a politician trying to grab the spotlight away from where it should be shining- on the players.
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Basketball coach maybe?

Seems more appropriate to be about the coach and his players(and their family)

Is there a perfect 'right way'? Probably not.
 

I don't care how pissed off you are about how you have been treated, when you display it in public you just prove you lost. It is very immature. Mo's mother should be building a statue to Pitino, the kid's body structure could not support his weight until Pitino got here. One of the most striking physical changes I have ever seen. Mo did all of the hard work, but it would not have happened if Tubby had stayed.
The second point is EE made himself completely replaceable by refusing to become an offensive player. He had the talent to contribute on the offensive end of the floor. Any big player can learn a few reliable shots around the basket, and he just would not take the responsibility to carry his end of the load. He had five years to learn three or four shots that would have made him a contributor. I don't buy at all that he could not have been a better offensive player. In any area of responsibility, if you decide you only want to do the part of the job you are comfortable with, your boss is completely within his rights to make changes to fix the problem. If the problems revolve around you, chances are you won't like the changes. The guys who should have been pissed off were his teammates who had to play with four guys on the offensive end of the floor whenever he was put in the game.
 

corcoran1 said:
I don't care how pissed off you are about how you have been treated, when you display it in public you just prove you lost. It is very immature. Mo's mother should be building a statue to Pitino, the kid's body structure could not support his weight until Pitino got here. One of the most striking physical changes I have ever seen. Mo did all of the hard work, but it would not have happened if Tubby had stayed.
The second point is EE made himself completely replaceable by refusing to become an offensive player. He had the talent to contribute on the offensive end of the floor. Any big player can learn a few reliable shots around the basket, and he just would not take the responsibility to carry his end of the load. He had five years to learn three or four shots that would have made him a contributor. I don't buy at all that he could not have been a better offensive player. In any area of responsibility, if you decide you only want to do the part of the job you are comfortable with, your boss is completely within his rights to make changes to fix the problem. If the problems revolve around you, chances are you won't like the changes. The guys who should have been pissed off were his teammates who had to play with four guys on the offensive end of the floor whenever he was put in the game.
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Very well said.
 

corcoran1 said:
I don't care how pissed off you are about how you have been treated, when you display it in public you just prove you lost. It is very immature. Mo's mother should be building a statue to Pitino, the kid's body structure could not support his weight until Pitino got here. One of the most striking physical changes I have ever seen. Mo did all of the hard work, but it would not have happened if Tubby had stayed.
The second point is EE made himself completely replaceable by refusing to become an offensive player. He had the talent to contribute on the offensive end of the floor. Any big player can learn a few reliable shots around the basket, and he just would not take the responsibility to carry his end of the load. He had five years to learn three or four shots that would have made him a contributor. I don't buy at all that he could not have been a better offensive player. In any area of responsibility, if you decide you only want to do the part of the job you are comfortable with, your boss is completely within his rights to make changes to fix the problem. If the problems revolve around you, chances are you won't like the changes. The guys who should have been pissed off were his teammates who had to play with four guys on the offensive end of the floor whenever he was put in the game.
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I think you are reading too much into this. If you look at the tweet, Mo's mother didn't say anything about Pitino. Her tweet was addressed at the AD who she felt could have given the seniors a handshake. I don't think her comment was so out of line.

I agree with you in general about EE and not just about developing a few offensive moves around the bucket. He also could have worked on making himself at least a 60% free throw shooter. His defense also suffered this year because he appeared to be playing with fear most of the time. Having said all of that, I believe Pitino made a big mistake by not playing him instead of Bakary against OSU. EE seemed to have gotten into a defensive rhythm and the team was +7 with him and -19 with Bakary in the game. If EE was upset after that game I can see why because he can't seem to get the floor time regardless of how he is playing.
 

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