McKinley & Dandridge each suspended for 2 games

Lance Smith left the program voluntarily. He was not booted from the team. He played two years ago while being convicted.

"while being convicted"? What the hell does that even mean?

You're wrong anyway.

Money quote: "Smith was immediately suspended by UW coach Bret Bielema and removed from the team on Aug. 4."
 



what about the LB that got the DUI while driving around drunk on the moped? I recall he played every game, and i do recall another badger who wasnt allowed to play away games, was that because he couldnt get a special deal to leave the county?
 




What's wrong with the strib and pioneer press reporting this? This is certainly sports news, and they both have sports sections in which they report sports news.

i didn't say anything was wrong in reporting it - in the sports tab - under the gophers section. however, it does not merit prominent placement on the front page of either website imo. hence why i said traditional newspapers are becoming nothing more than glorified tabloids in many respects.
 


"while being convicted"? What the hell does that even mean?

You're wrong anyway.

Money quote: "Smith was immediately suspended by UW coach Bret Bielema and removed from the team on Aug. 4."

Yeah, that was Aug 4 of 2008. This incident happened in the summer of 07. Smith was suspended in Aug '07 and quickly reinstated for fall camp.

Here's an article from Andy Baggot....

Baggot: UW policy smells fishy from outside
By ANDY BAGGOT
608-252-6175
[email protected]
They have to know how this looks, don't they?

Shortly before the University of Wisconsin football team opened preseason camp Monday, suspended sophomore tailback Lance Smith was reinstated to active duty.

Followers of the program — cynics and season ticket holders alike — saw it coming. They pointed and laughed in a way that suggested some poor schlub's fly was open.

In truth, they were chuckling at a process that has become all too familiar in the past 11 months.

It goes like this: A vital member of the UW football team is arrested. He is suspended by the school in accordance with its student-athlete discipline policy. He is reinstated just in time to suit up for the next big on-field assignment.

It's happened three times since last September, which makes you wonder: The powers-that-be at UW have to know how this looks, don't they?

It looks calculated and dubious. It looks like powerful people are playing the privacy angles, all in the name of making sure UW Athletics runs at optimal speed.

UW athletic director Barry Alvarez said he isn't worried about how it looks to us.

"I know the facts," he said. "We're not making the decision (based) on timing or concerned about how it appears. We're doing what we think is right and what we think is fair for the kid."

Other conclusions could be reached based on a pattern that has emerged since last fall.

Linebacker Elijah Hodge was arrested Sept. 19 for operating a motor vehicle, a scooter, without the owner's consent. He was suspended by the school two days later and reinstated in time for a Big Ten Conference game Sept. 23 at Michigan.

UW coach Bret Bielema was so certain Hodge, a key backup, would be cleared that Hodge, though still suspended, made the trip to Ann Arbor, Mich., and eventually played.


• Cornerback Jack Ikegwuonu was arrested Nov. 25 in DeKalb, Ill., and charged with residential burglary and criminal trespass.

He was suspended by the school Dec. 1 and reinstated Dec. 15.

Ikegwuonu missed practices leading up to the Capital One Bowl, but the first-team, All-Big Ten selection also had about two weeks of repetitions when workouts were heightened and the game plan was installed for what would be a 17-14 win over Arkansas.

Smith was arrested July 14 and tentatively charged with robbery, false imprisonment and battery.

An important backup, he was suspended July 18 and reinstated in time for the first day of preseason drills. None of the three cases had been resolved in the courts when the players were reinstated.


Those involving Ikegwuonu and Smith are pending. No charges were filed against Hodge due to lack of evidence.

Alvarez, UW Athletic Board chair Walter Dickey, Casey Nagy of the chancellor's office and a UW Athletic Board member decide if the discipline policy has been violated and if reinstatement is warranted based on information gathered by the school.

"I think people are very quick — very, very quick — to suspend, punish, do this and that when in many cases — and it's proven out — that it doesn't warrant that," Alvarez said. "People have to trust us."

Maybe it's all coincidence. Maybe this process is pure and reasoned.

But that's not how it looks from here.
 



Point of emphasis...If the players want to be and are in the limelight, it is newsworthy of front page.
 

2 games

Good to see Brewster is being consistent with his suspensions. Two games for McKinley and Dandridge just like the two game suspension they gave Whaley for violating team rules early. These two are starters so they could not try to hide it like they did with Whaley. They should stay out of the bars until 21 it is the law.
 

Good to see Brewster is being consistent with his suspensions. Two games for McKinley and Dandridge just like the two game suspension they gave Whaley for violating team rules early. These two are starters so they could not try to hide it like they did with Whaley. They should stay out of the bars until 21 it is the law.

so you're asserting that they would go out of their way to hide it for Whaley, but it would get front page STrib streatment for the other two??? That makes good sense :rolleyes:
 

actually, lance smith.

and according to this article beilma wasn't the one who suspended him.

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-32974679_ITM

Wrong yet again.

Smith got into a fight with his girlfriend, he was immediately suspended from the team. The court gave him probation and enrolled him in a first time offenders program. He was reinstated to the team, but UW disciplinary department suspended for all road games (including Minnesota, a game which the Badgers won), he later violated the terms of his first time offender program and was booted from the team by Bielema. He transferred to Memphis.
 



yes - they went out the way

Yes - they were able to keep th Whaley suspension under the radar since he was not a starter. I am satisfied with the process since both were for two games,
 

Good to see Brewster is being consistent with his suspensions. Two games for McKinley and Dandridge just like the two game suspension they gave Whaley for violating team rules early. These two are starters so they could not try to hide it like they did with Whaley. They should stay out of the bars until 21 it is the law.
McKinley is 22.
 


Wrong yet again.

Smith got into a fight with his girlfriend, he was immediately suspended from the team. The court gave him probation and enrolled him in a first time offenders program. He was reinstated to the team, but UW disciplinary department suspended for all road games (including Minnesota, a game which the Badgers won), he later violated the terms of his first time offender program and was booted from the team by Bielema. He transferred to Memphis.

Then he was reinstated two weeks later, just in time for fall practices.

Beating a woman allows at UW player to participate in all home games. That's mighty brave of UW disciplinary department.
 

i didn't say anything was wrong in reporting it - in the sports tab - under the gophers section. however, it does not merit prominent placement on the front page of either website imo. hence why i said traditional newspapers are becoming nothing more than glorified tabloids in many respects.

Sign of the times. I believe the top stories on the web are Vikings, Twins, and Gopher suspensions. Web caters to those who use the web and sports is where that demographic lies.
 

Good to see Brewster is being consistent with his suspensions. Two games for McKinley and Dandridge just like the two game suspension they gave Whaley for violating team rules early. These two are starters so they could not try to hide it like they did with Whaley. They should stay out of the bars until 21 it is the law.

you are an idiot :rolleyes:
 

Bronco,
They also both put virtually all new stories on the website -- big or small -- on the front page for a while. That's just the way that it works.
 

Gophers better beat the Badgers

Only two games mean anything to me beating the Badgers and Iowa. Hopfully everyone including the 12 man steps it up to beat the Badgers. Go Gophers!!
 

I'm curious, how many years of living in a dream world did it take before you started really believing the crap you spout? I know reality has been tough for Gopher fans, but facing the truth will help you in the long run.

Bielema just booted two former starters (from probably the second weakest area) off the team before this season started. Last year he booted his starting DE off the team just before the season started and the year before that he said buh-bye to a top RB. And you still are able to maintain that he's somehow a lax disciplinarian. You guys crack me up.

Yeah, well I heard they made some comments about Bielema's behavior on State St. and that was the end of their football careers. If you think that is a positive sign of discipline for your coach to exhibit, more power to you.
 

Then he was reinstated two weeks later, just in time for fall practices.

Beating a woman allows at UW player to participate in all home games. That's mighty brave of UW disciplinary department.

Of course you missed the point. Whether or not you think the punishment was the right one, Bielema had no say in the matter, it was not an athletic department decision. Later, when Smith violated the terms of his program, and Bielema could have chose a less severe punishment, he kicked him off the team.
 

oh, that sucks ShitFucherBADGER, shitty to be an annoying troll AND to be wrong, usually trolls know what they are talking about when making these claims. Well, at least you have pretty pink hair.

I thought you only used this kind of language for one poster. Can you please show some class?
 

Bielema just booted two former starters (from probably the second weakest area) off the team before this season started. Last year he booted his starting DE off the team just before the season started and the year before that he said buh-bye to a top RB. And you still are able to maintain that he's somehow a lax disciplinarian. You guys crack me up.

Mmm hmm...and he booted them w/o saying "violation of team rules" and without their names in the police blotter. It looks like they got the boot for being insubordinate...if that's the case then he's protecting his own a** by getting rid of them because letting them stay means his authority gets undermined. In other words, what is worse...booting players off a weak secondary and keeping your authority intact or letting them stay and risk a mutiny. Not quite the same thing as letting players play after getting arrested.
 

Wilhite

Wilhite has been playing great so far this year, but the coaching staff wants to keep him as a pass-rushing specialist so don't expect his role to change too much while Ced is out. The likely plan is to have Henderson, Hageman and maybe Jacobs alternating on most snaps and have D.L. continue to rotate in on passing downs.
 

Yeah, well I heard they made some comments about Bielema's behavior on State St. and that was the end of their football careers. If you think that is a positive sign of discipline for your coach to exhibit, more power to you.

See my previous comment about living in a land of make-believe. You folks really are beyond parody.
 

I thought you only used this kind of language for one poster. Can you please show some class?

Thanks Mother Teresa, I'll take that into consideration. And if you want to go back to that post you'll see I said I use that type of language on trolls, so they all fall under that category. You go live in your fantasy alter boy world.
 

Of course you missed the point. Whether or not you think the punishment was the right one, Bielema had no say in the matter, it was not an athletic department decision. Later, when Smith violated the terms of his program, and Bielema could have chose a less severe punishment, he kicked him off the team.

No, actually you missed the point. You beat a woman, you're gone. No second chances. Do you disagree with that?

So, after Smith's second violation there was a disciplinary option of keeping him on the team?? On Wisconsin.
 





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