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On this list I like Leach, Stoops, Tuberville the most. Sumlin seems like we have been there done that - all offense with some success. Stoops is really interesting because he is a defense guy. Tuberville has a great record of winning and being in big games, part of a big time program.
 

Unregistered User said:
Are we talking Stoops or Harbaugh here?
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Stoops. Trust me. He'd wear thin here very, very fast.

He isn't particularly popular in Tucson. There'd be more than one Wildcat booster who'd thank us for taking him off their hands.

He's not like his older brother Bob all that much. Big Game Bob has struggled recently in bowl games, but over his career has won some monster games, has an "in control" sideline demeanor, handles himself pretty classy and is an excellent game coach. Watch Mike Stoops coach a game. Any game. He's an absolute head case bordering on an embarrassment. He loses touch with the game and it impacts the outcome.
 

I guess Leach and Tuberville would 1 & 2 for me, followed by Stoops followed by Sumlin. Whoever we get I hope we do something different offensively as I have no desire in being WI or IA Lite.
 

What am I missing?

gopher_alum_2005 said:
I would love the Stoops hire .
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I do not understand all of the Mike Stoops love. He was almost run out of Arizona a few years back. He has been to 2 bowl games in 6 years. His overall career record is 38-40 and 25-30 in the PAC 10.

I would not be happy if he is our choice.
 

DarrenTheGreek said:
Leach couldn't get past Texas or Oklahoma in the Big 12 South while Tuberville was able to get past Alabama, LSU and Arkansas in the SEC West. It's unfair to judge Tuberville's job at Texas Tech after just 6 games. Remember he was brought in last January and didn't have any time to recruit his own players.
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Not entirely accurate. They lost to Oklahoma in 2008, but beat Texas and did win the South that year. In 2009, they beat Oklahoma (crushed, actually), but lost to Texas; he also beat Oklahoma in 2007 as well (lost to Texas).

And, he also had a winning overall record every year, a .500 or better conference record 9 out of 10 years.

Tuberville's record is solid as well, and while in the SEC West, he was also coaching at Auburn - certainly a more attractive job than Texas Tech.

Leach isn't my number 1 guy, but my preference would be him over Tuberville.
 


Stan The Caddy said:
I do not understand all of the Mike Stoops love. He was almost run out of Arizona a few years back. He has been to 2 bowl games in 6 years. His overall career record is 38-40 and 25-30 in the PAC 10.

I would not be happy if he is our choice.
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For me, the appeal is just he gradual improvement they have shown; overall record not impressive, but after going 3-8 his first two years, they've gotten better nearly every year and I think are 5-1 right now.
 

I'd love Tuberville, but I can't imagine he'd bolt TT after one season. You just don't do that unless it's to your alma mater or something. And if he is willing to, you have to wonder if he'll do the same to us. He would have been a great candidate last year, but I just can't see it now.

As for Stoops, I have mixed emotions. He seems to have red flags, but he's certainly better then Trestman. And let's not pretend Arizona is an easy place to win. It's one of the few BCS jobs that's more difficult then MN at the moment.
 

Stan The Caddy said:
I do not understand all of the Mike Stoops love. He was almost run out of Arizona a few years back. He has been to 2 bowl games in 6 years. His overall career record is 38-40 and 25-30 in the PAC 10.

I would not be happy if he is our choice.
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Look at where the program was when he was hired, then look at the trend of the program over his tenure.
 

TCF=UnitedWeStand said:
For me, the appeal is just he gradual improvement they have shown; overall record not impressive, but after going 3-8 his first two years, they've gotten better nearly every year and I think are 5-1 right now.
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Fair enough. I just think we have a chance to make a hire that turns this program around and I am not sure Mike Stoops is the guy.
 



"Fat chance..." that Tubberville will join...

Tubby Smith here at Minnesota (Of course, Reusse might feel more comfortable with Tubby and the Tubber) ; 0 ) Also pretty alarming that his record dipped in his 10th season. Was he "rebuilding..." in his 10th season?

Personally, since I have NO impact on who the new coach will be, I will merely wait and watch the process. Then I will use the Big Ten win minus the Big Ten loss barometer to tell me how the new coach is doing in the Big Ten Conference. Those numbers will also tell me how well prexy b and maturi have done in THIS football coach selection process. (So far, in their tenures at Minnesota, they have both FAILED miserably when it comes to managing the head football coach situation.) It will tell me all I need to know about the recuriting...and coaching...and game management situations as well.
 

TCF=UnitedWeStand said:
For me, the appeal is just he gradual improvement they have shown; overall record not impressive, but after going 3-8 his first two years, they've gotten better nearly every year and I think are 5-1 right now.
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Plus he can upset Iowa at home!
 

TCF=UnitedWeStand said:
Not entirely accurate. They lost to Oklahoma in 2008, but beat Texas and did win the South that year.
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You are correct. My apologizes for the error. Leach definitely has an impressive record and I love the streak of not being sub .500 in conference play. I just think Tuberville has a more balanced approach to the team and I think his teams consistently outplayed the big boys in his division compared to Leach.
 

imthewalrus said:
Tubby Smith here at Minnesota ; 0 ) Also pretty alarming that his record dipped in his 10th season. Was he "rebuilding..." in his 10th season?

Personally, since I have NO impact on who the new coach will be, I will merely wait and watch the process. Then I will use the Big Ten win minus the Big Ten loss barometer to tell me how the new coach is doing in the Big Ten Conference. Those numbers will also tell me how well prexy b and maturi have done in THIS football coaching situation It will tell me all I need to know about the recuriting...and coaching...and game management situations as well.
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If you don't understand that every so often programs have a dip or take a year to two to reload then there may not be much hope for you. I suggest you wait until the end of the year when Urban Meyer is canned for the dip in his program, considering all his loses have been in conference games he is terrible.
 



Your list is a joke...
Tuberville just took the Tech job..why would he bail out
Leach has issues, he's a jerk for the admin to work with..no way on him
And anyone who hires little Stoops deserves him. He's a total rear end from everything I've seen.
And NONE of these has any Minnesota connections-a primary prereq. according to Maturi.
Sorry, your insider is on the outside.
 

You're a fine one to talk about coaching options being a joke. No, Minnesota connections were NOT a prerequisite. Desired, but not a prerequisite.
 


If this is a destination kind of job for Leach (meaning he wants to be here and wouldn't flee the second a SEC job opens up) Then he should be the next Gopher head coach.

After listening to him on WCCO is sounded to me like he knows in football you must make adjustments. Which leads me to believe in the event it was cold at TCF late in the year, he would do things differently if needed.

If you pay Leach competitively, 2.5 mill or more with a 1.5 buyout (that might be a little much), he will stay here and we will compete in the Big 10
 

1) I agree on your Tuberville comment. He just started there...I don't see him casting his net (but you never know what could motivate him).

2) Leach is a handful, but if Maturi has balls, he'd give him a serious look. He hasn't had "issues", it was an issue that was really blown out of proportion.

3) Stoops does not have a winning record as a Head Coach. I don't think they want to go there. Personally, he looks like a good fit here, but he doesn't fit the qualifications.

4) Sumlin - I don't know enough about him to comment. He's done great things at Houston...perhaps he'd bring the magic up here. Again, a serious look as he has all the pre-requisites.

Before you spout off saying something is a "joke", I'd do a little research. The good people of this board will call you on it.
 

DarrenTheGreek said:
Wren, please tell me you aren't serious?
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Can't speak to the "serious" part, but Mason was brutally hammered by critics around here for saying that 2008 "would be a major rebuilding year" and that was before the suspension of the three Defensive starters.
 


DarrenTheGreek said:
You are correct. My apologizes for the error. Leach definitely has an impressive record and I love the streak of not being sub .500 in conference play. I just think Tuberville has a more balanced approach to the team and I think his teams consistently outplayed the big boys in his division compared to Leach.
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I don't think T.T. and Auburn are on the same level though. Over the past 30 years, if Auburn isn't on the same level as Alabama and LSU, they are awfully close. Can't say the same for T.T. and Texas/Oklahoma.
 

Silvo, why all the hatred and discontent from those who bashed Mason for stating...

Silvio said:
If you don't understand that every so often programs have a dip or take a year to two to reload then there may not be much hope for you. I suggest you wait until the end of the year when Urban Meyer is canned for the dip in his program, considering all his loses have been in conference games he is terrible.
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that there would be some rebuilding to do following the graduation of a lot of key players. People Like Bayfield and some others talk about that ALL the time.

So, Silvo, what's good for one coach is good for all coaches!

And, by the way, I've been watching and cheering for Gopher Football for well over half a century. I understand a heck of a lot about Gopher Football and have also been an interested observer of college football during that expanse of time. I think that I have built up a whole bunch of "hope" over all those decades. From Royal, Warmath, James, McKay, Bryant and Bo and Woody and Parsegian and Osborne and Paterno, et al up through the current crop of "names", I have observed quite a bit. Keep working hard Silvo...there may be some hope for you some day...
 

RodentRampage said:
You're a fine one to talk about coaching options being a joke. No, Minnesota connections were NOT a prerequisite. Desired, but not a prerequisite.
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Maybe he meant to type "Leach DOES have Minnesota connections, his mom leaves up by Moorhead but any list without Mason, McCarney or Trestman I really hate!"
 

imthewalrus said:
that there would be some rebuilding to do following the graduation of a lot of key players. People Like Bayfield and some others talk about that ALL the time.
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The difference is that Tuberville had one mediocre year after a long string of wildly successful ones.

Mason was going from mediocre to terrible. How you "rebuild" from mediocrity is beyond me.
 

imthewalrus said:
that there would be some rebuilding to do following the graduation of a lot of key players. People Like Bayfield and some others talk about that ALL the time.

So, Silvo, what's good for one coach is good for all coaches!

And, by the way, I've been watching and cheering for Gopher Football for well over half a century. I understand a heck of a lot about Gopher Football and have also been an interested observer of college football during that expanse of time. I think that I have built up a whole bunch of "hope" over all those decades. From Royal, Warmath, James, McKay, Bryant and Bo and Woody and Parsegian and Osborne and Paterno, et al up through the current crop of "names", I have observed quite a bit. Keep working hard Silvo...there may be some hope for you some day...
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I think if I could understand the "true" importance of BigTen wins versus BigTen loses I could make a huge step forward in understanding the workings of college football.
 

Rescooter said:
1) I agree on your Tuberville comment. He just started there...I don't see him casting his net (but you never know what could motivate him).

2) Leach is a handful, but if Maturi has balls, he'd give him a serious look. He hasn't had "issues", it was an issue that was really blown out of proportion.

3) Stoops does not have a winning record as a Head Coach. I don't think they want to go there. Personally, he looks like a good fit here, but he doesn't fit the qualifications.

4) Sumlin - I don't know enough about him to comment. He's done great things at Houston...perhaps he'd bring the magic up here. Again, a serious look as he has all the pre-requisites.

Before you spout off saying something is a "joke", I'd do a little research. The good people of this board will call you on it.
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The poster said he had "inside information" on a new coach. That IS a joke. There is no way that his list is close to reality. Watch what Maturi said about a "Minnesota-Like"coach. The new coach will
1. want the job badly
2. fit the Minnesota mold or have direct connections
And I do have some connections. You can take the last two points I made to the bank.
 

I don't... think you know who you're talking about.
 

Silvio said:
I think if I could understand the "true" importance of BigTen wins versus BigTen loses I could make a huge step forward in understanding the workings of college football.
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You also need to learn the fine art of capitalizing random words in a long diatribe. The use of Prexy B is also required.
 

What is the Minnesota Mold? Based on what I hear from Maturi it looks an awful lot like Barry Alvarez, no? How do you determine who wants the job and who wants the job badly. I fit both of your last two (and only two) criteria, am I a candidate, if not who do I talk to about becoming one. My NFL Madden and College Game Day video game coaching and play calling is quite impressive!
 

Of that list i really only see 2 legit possibilities and that Mike Leach and Kevin Sumlin. I really doubt Tuberville would leave after a year while i just dont think Stoops will leave Arizona to come here. Just my 2 cents.
 

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