Killer Shot

Blind support of a coach you don't believe is qualified does not make you a better fan. I do cheer for the university and I do feel that Brewster will not help us progress to the next level. I am positive if you go and read some of my posts on the basketball board, the difference there is they have a coach that I can respect as a man and who can get us to the next level in wins and losses as well.

Don't forget that you also trash talk both Maturi and Cosgrove (before he even gets a chance to prove himself here) and won't even admit that Tim Davis was a good hire.
 

Lane Kiffin: I always think about Lane being here too, but then I catch myself and say that he probably would have had one big year, then taken off for something bigger. Leaving our program scrambing?? Who knows I guess. Does anyone know if he "really" wanted to be here for the long haul??

Bo Pelini: No way he picks MN over Neb, just due to past prestigue and the fan base.

Turner Gill: Love this guy, but who knew before what he did at Buff. At least with Brew we knew we had a guy to sell recruits on the program. Not sure how Gill didn't have bigger suitors after him at the end of the season??

Bo Pelini: The Minnesota job was available a year before the Nebraska job opened so that was not an issue.

Lane Kiffin: I have to trust what he said about wanting to be here and raising his kids in the midwest, he atleast had ties to the area(bloomington jefferson grad). He may or may not have taken off but if you think Brewster wouldn't have taken off for a "better" job after this season if he could of you are crazy. He would have taken the Tennessee job in a second if he could have. Brewster has no ties here and before getting the job had even stated he had never even been except for MSP airport since his days playing here with Illinois.

Turner Gill: Had a proven track record as a recruiter with ties in DFW area(he is from Fort Worth) and for developing talent at Nebraska and a true gentleman, he realized however he needed to get head coaching experience and took a lower level job to get some experience and proved he can do it. Somehow Brewster was able to skip this step.
 

The only thing that really matters is that you are a huge pain in the a$$. If you think you can't be banned in GopherHole for having a bad attitude and pissing a lot of other posters off, just keep it up.
 

Don't forget that you also trash talk both Maturi and Cosgrove (before he even gets a chance to prove himself here) and won't even admit that Tim Davis was a good hire.

I have not bashed Tim Davis, have just stated that I am waiting to see what he does before making a definite judgement one way or the other. In regards to Cosgrove, how many chances at BCS programs does this guy get. I think this guy hit his prime 10-15 years ago and has not been able to adapt his schemes and mindset to the new spread offenses. People state that he was a great recruiter, well the talent at Nebraska got worse as his recruits started to play and his predecessors recruits graduated or entered the NFL draft.
 

The only thing that really matters is that you are a huge pain in the a$$. If you think you can't be banned in GopherHole for having a bad attitude and pissing a lot of other posters off, just keep it up.


I will GUARANTEE you that I cannot get banned for upsetting some posters but please feel free and try. There are others out there that agree with me as well.
 


Bo Pelini: The Minnesota job was available a year before the Nebraska job opened so that was not an issue.

Lane Kiffin: I have to trust what he said about wanting to be here and raising his kids in the midwest, he atleast had ties to the area(bloomington jefferson grad). He may or may not have taken off but if you think Brewster wouldn't have taken off for a "better" job after this season if he could of you are crazy. He would have taken the Tennessee job in a second if he could have. Brewster has no ties here and before getting the job had even stated he had never even been except for MSP airport since his days playing here with Illinois.

Turner Gill: Had a proven track record as a recruiter with ties in DFW area(he is from Fort Worth) and for developing talent at Nebraska and a true gentleman, he realized however he needed to get head coaching experience and took a lower level job to get some experience and proved he can do it. Somehow Brewster was able to skip this step.

I've only been on the board for a couple months, so I wasn't really tuned into the program when Brew was hired. I'm sure there are folks on this board who were giving pretty good info on the hiring process, so I'll just ask..... what were some of the reasons we chose Brew over Kiffin? As much as a Brwe supporter I am, I will admit the Kiffin hire just seemed to make too much sense at the time. Thanks.
 

errr ummm

I will GUARANTEE you that I cannot get banned for upsetting some posters but please feel free and try. There are others out there that agree with me as well.



It doesn't change the fact that you are a complete d-bag.
 

I have not bashed Tim Davis, have just stated that I am waiting to see what he does before making a definite judgement one way or the other. In regards to Cosgrove, how many chances at BCS programs does this guy get. I think this guy hit his prime 10-15 years ago and has not been able to adapt his schemes and mindset to the new spread offenses. People state that he was a great recruiter, well the talent at Nebraska got worse as his recruits started to play and his predecessors recruits graduated or entered the NFL draft.


Your logic is truly bizarre. You purposely discount any positives and play up all the negative you can find.
 

It doesn't change the fact that you are a complete d-bag.

I can live with that. It is sad that I can stir such ire from people by simply sharing my views on one program at the University. I guess you don't want any sort of debate you just want a message board of yes men who don't question Coach Brewster on anything.
 



I have not bashed Tim Davis, have just stated that I am waiting to see what he does before making a definite judgement one way or the other. In regards to Cosgrove, how many chances at BCS programs does this guy get. I think this guy hit his prime 10-15 years ago and has not been able to adapt his schemes and mindset to the new spread offenses. People state that he was a great recruiter, well the talent at Nebraska got worse as his recruits started to play and his predecessors recruits graduated or entered the NFL draft.

So you take a wait and see with Davis, but not the other new coaches? Why? Shouldn't all of us take a wait and see in regards to all these hires?
 


I guess you don't want any sort of debate you just want a message board of yes men who don't question Coach Brewster on anything.
I think that the problem is that you question him on everything.
 




So you take a wait and see with Davis, but not the other new coaches? Why? Shouldn't all of us take a wait and see in regards to all these hires?

The difference with Davis is it appears he has had some success at previous programs, Cosgrove IMO has failed at some prominent programs now. I just want to know how many chances do you give a guy at BCS schools. I will also give the new OC a fair shake as well even though it may or may not be a "kill shot", however I may hold Brewster accountable for not delivering what he promised.
 


The difference with Davis is it appears he has had some success at previous programs, Cosgrove IMO has failed at some prominent programs now. I just want to know how many chances do you give a guy at BCS schools. I will also give the new OC a fair shake as well even though it may or may not be a "kill shot", however I may hold Brewster accountable for not delivering what he promised.


Do you think Cosgrove failed at Wisconsin?
 

Do you think Cosgrove failed at Wisconsin?


Yes and a view shared by more than a few Badger fans as well, success early on but got worse as his career went on, which is why I say his prime was 10-15 years ago. Apparently Barry didn't think that he had what it would take either as a HC because he never told him to stick around so he can pass the keys to him.
 

The difference with Davis is it appears he has had some success at previous programs, Cosgrove IMO has failed at some prominent programs now. I just want to know how many chances do you give a guy at BCS schools. I will also give the new OC a fair shake as well even though it may or may not be a "kill shot", however I may hold Brewster accountable for not delivering what he promised.

Cosgrove has had a lot of success. IMO a guy gets a chance at MY school before I will criticize his work. If he had been a failure everywhere then I may question the hire, but you are discounting his successes. He was the DC for 3 Rose Bowl Teams!
 

Yes and a view shared by more than a few Badger fans as well, success early on but got worse as his career went on, which is why I say his prime was 10-15 years ago. Apparently Barry didn't think that he had what it would take either as a HC because he never told him to stick around so he can pass the keys to him.


Got it.

Brewster/Cosgrove/Maturi = suck

Tim Davis = has yet to prove himself as a good hire
 

Cosgrove has had a lot of success. IMO a guy gets a chance at MY school before I will criticize his work. If he had been a failure everywhere then I may question the hire, but you are discounting his successes. He was the DC for 3 Rose Bowl Teams!


As stated before I believe his prime was 10 - 15 years ago and has been on a downward slide since then. He was so successful at the end of his time in Wisconsin that Barry let him leave and brought in a replacement who he handed the HC job to after only working with him for 2 years.
 

Got it.

Brewster/Cosgrove/Maturi = suck

Tim Davis = has yet to prove himself as a good hire

Got it, though I think Tim Davis will be good but I am not going to erect a statue of him yet like some people want to.
 

The difference with Davis is it appears he has had some success at previous programs, Cosgrove IMO has failed at some prominent programs now. I just want to know how many chances do you give a guy at BCS schools. I will also give the new OC a fair shake as well even though it may or may not be a "kill shot", however I may hold Brewster accountable for not delivering what he promised.

I still can't figure out why you think Cosgrove is so bad. He was very successful at Wisconsin and had two bad years at Nebraska. It just so happens the last year was very bad. So some seem to ignore his success before that.

I still don't know if him or Brewster will get it done in the end, but I'm not going to try to find every little negative thing about them, and, at the same time, ignore everything positive they have done. That's what you're doing.
 

As stated before I believe his prime was 10 - 15 years ago and has been on a downward slide since then. He was so successful at the end of his time in Wisconsin that Barry let him leave and brought in a replacement who he handed the HC job to after only working with him for 2 years.

..... and we all know how that's going these days. BA couldn't have made a bad choice though, right?
 

GopherGod

A lot of people on this board hate on people that don't agree with them and the only comeback they have is to call you a d-bag.
 

I still can't figure out why you think Cosgrove is so bad. He was very successful at Wisconsin and had two bad years at Nebraska. It just so happens the last year was very bad. So some seem to ignore his success before that.

I still don't know if him or Brewster will get it done in the end, but I'm not going to try to find every little negative thing about them, and, at the same time, ignore everything positive they have done. That's what you're doing.

Again not true, I have stated that Brewster has improved recruiting. My concerns are that he appears to not know what direction he wants to take the team in, we first hire Dunbar then Brewster says we have to let him go and get a guy who wants to run the ball more. Brewster should have known before ever taking the job what sort of offense he wanted to run. Dunbar ran the same offense he has run at his previous jobs so it shouldn't have been a surprise to Brewster. He either hired Dunbar without doing his research/due diligence or didn't have a plan when he was hired of what his offensive vision was. We have a tight A.D. budget to begin with because of the mistakes Maturi made handing out premature extensions to Monson and Mason and now we have less money available to attract coaches because of the Dunbar debacle. I also worry that getting rid of all of these coaches in the short time he has been here will hamper the ability to attract other coaches. I also have concerns about Brewsters game day coaching abilities as he was awarded this job after never even being an coordinator. He was a position coach for 17 years and never got promoted to a coordinator job. How do you not get promoted in 17 years unless these coaches realized he was a good recruiter and salesman but X and O's and organizationally didn't have what it takes to be a coordinator. In regards to Cosgrove as I have stated his prime was 10-15 years ago and in a downward slide since then, both in on the field results and in recruiting and developing talent. Here was some of the talent he had to work with at Nebraska and it doesn't seem to match with how poorly the defenses played in those 4 years.

Scott Shanle, LB, Saints (Starter)
Daniel Bullocks, S, Lions (Starter)
Stewart Bradley, LB, Eagles (Starter)
Barrett Ruud, LB, Buccaneers, (Starter, Nebraska all-time leading tackler)
Adam Carriker, DT, Rams (13th overall pick)(started every game last season)
Fabian Washington, CB, Ravens (Starter)(23rd overall pick)
Titus Adams, DT, Patriots
Ryon Bingham, DT, Chargers
Zach Bowman, CB, Bears
Josh Bullocks, FS, Saints (semi-finalist for Jim Thorpe Award and Sporting News All-American in 2003)
Steve Octavien, LB, Cowboys
Bo Ruud, LB, Patriots
LeKevin Smith, DT, Patriots
 

..... and we all know how that's going these days. BA couldn't have made a bad choice though, right?

That may be possible but after 14 years with Cosgrove he knew Cosgrove well enough to feel that he couldn't be a head coach there.
 

GG why don't you just wait and see. Brewster is learning as a head coach and still working out the cohesiveness of his staff. Give the guy his 4-5 yrs. He will either succeed or fail. The only thing your speculation does is keep this board going. I'mwi not a cosgrove fan at all, but he can recruit and is a good position coach. Hopefully Lee will learn something from him like I'm sure he did from Roof and do the game day stuff.

If I were a HS kid and was a lineman with coach davis here, I would be drooling with his experience. Same goes for a QB or receiver with the new OC. There is alot of potentially positive stuff here. Give it a chance before you get so critical.
 

GG why don't you just wait and see. Brewster is learning as a head coach and still working out the cohesiveness of his staff. Give the guy his 4-5 yrs. He will either succeed or fail. The only thing your speculation does is keep this board going. I'mwi not a cosgrove fan at all, but he can recruit and is a good position coach. Hopefully Lee will learn something from him like I'm sure he did from Roof and do the game day stuff.

If I were a HS kid and was a lineman with coach davis here, I would be drooling with his experience. Same goes for a QB or receiver with the new OC. There is alot of potentially positive stuff here. Give it a chance before you get so critical.

That is my point the Big Ten is not a classroom to learn in, that is what the MAC schools are for. He needs to be learning at the Bowling Greens like Urban Meyer did. I don't see why everyone says that Cosgrove can recruit, he sure didn't at Nebraska. The talent he left there was significantly worse that what he was given when he took over there. So much so that the Nebraska defense was starting walk-ons and a converted former starting RB to play LB this year after Cosgrove left.
 

Please learn to spell, write, and punctuate. PS, UpNorth4 has lost his mind.

gopher god if you read what i had wrote you would have saw that i said our board. true fans of the gophers. you are always negative. when brewster was hired im sure alot of us, me included, wanted someone with a bigger name like kiffen. we didnt hire him. we hired tim brewster. now at the time i was a little pissed but now i think the hire was good for us. he were lacking big time in the talent department, we need someone with tough skin due to the media and the on again off again fans around here, we also needed someone that was enthusiastic. brew is all those things. why cant you just join the rest of us and stand behind the man. give him a chance to see what he can do with his players please. if in a couple years it doesnt work out you can bash him all you want

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Hey, UPnorth message board mafia made man, please

The only thing that really matters is that you are a huge pain in the a$$. If you think you can't be banned in GopherHole for having a bad attitude and pissing a lot of other posters off, just keep it up.

do not post any more of this pathetic crap again.

How about we ban you for having an ineffective brain?

55-0?????

42-21 ?????

STFU
 




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