[Kersey] Lincoln Riley won't say which position group it is, but says he had one group essentially wiped out -- all but one -- by a COVID test


OL or DL would be my first guess. A lot of their practicing involves being right next to each other, while other position groups that fit that description (secondary, WR, special teams, etc) could practice socially distanced fairly easily.

That is one risk to playing. This scenario happening during the season would necessitate a game delay. What happens if a team has to delay 2 or 3 games due to different position groups having mini-outbreaks during the season? There is only so much time in the schedules to re-play games unless you push post-season games back even farther.
 

So let's say your OL is all OUT.

Do you play your star QB? Let him get OBLITERATED?
 

Better now than later. They'll miss practice for likely a week, maybe two, and be back at it. These are the things that are going to happen and have been planned and accounted for
 

Better now than later. They'll miss practice for likely a week, maybe two, and be back at it. These are the things that are going to happen and have been planned and accounted for
Yes better now than later, but you can't guarantee every team will be lucky enough to have this happen before the season. What if this continues to happen during the season? Currently there is only time allotted for a team to make up 1 or 2 games at the end of the season, what if they have to make up 3 or 4? What happens if a different mini-outbreak happens on one team the week of a makeup game? How long can you keep delaying games?
 


Yes better now than later, but you can't guarantee every team will be lucky enough to have this happen before the season. What if this continues to happen during the season? Currently there is only time allotted for a team to make up 1 or 2 games at the end of the season, what if they have to make up 3 or 4? What happens if a different mini-outbreak happens on one team the week of a makeup game? How long can you keep delaying games?
Which likely means teams will finish with different number of games played this year.
BYU going to play 6
Some will play 10
Some 11
Some might end up at 7-9

This was pretty common before the TV era of football
 

Yes better now than later, but you can't guarantee every team will be lucky enough to have this happen before the season. What if this continues to happen during the season? Currently there is only time allotted for a team to make up 1 or 2 games at the end of the season, what if they have to make up 3 or 4? What happens if a different mini-outbreak happens on one team the week of a makeup game? How long can you keep delaying games?
What's wrong with canceling a game or two? A team plays 9 games instead of 10, or 8 instead of 9? How do we know that things won't look a lot different in 4 weeks, 6 weeks, 10 weeks?
 

MLB pushes through. Even though they’re professionals, and don’t have a closely located, large student body of student spreaders and susceptible staff and faculty ... that will be the justification to push through.

Only a death of a star player might cause them to postpone the season. But who knows, probably not then either. They’ll try to falsely say it’s the same thing as if the player had an undiagnosed genetic heart condition and collapsed in practice. So I guess maybe if multiple players or staff die, then maybe.
 

What's wrong with canceling a game or two? A team plays 9 games instead of 10, or 8 instead of 9? How do we know that things won't look a lot different in 4 weeks, 6 weeks, 10 weeks?
Nothing is wrong with it, but what happens if that game is supposed to be a tie-breaker to determine division champ? That game needs to be played right? Do you then have to delay the conference championship game last minute? What if it happens for the conference championship?

All I am saying is that, while maybe this doesn't happen, the asterisk on the season keeps getting bigger and bigger. At what point is it just better to call the season a wash, and try delaying to the spring for a potentially smaller asterisk season?
 



Admitting defeat on fall football, is like admitting they’re going to lose the election.

If you want to get right down to the psychological nuts and bolts of it ... that’s why they’ll refuse, no matter the cost.
 


Admitting defeat on fall football, is like admitting they’re going to lose the election.

If you want to get right down to the psychological nuts and bolts of it ... that’s why they’ll refuse, no matter the cost.
If it were up to coaches/AD's yes. The University Presidents will pull the plug at some point. At least in the ACC.
 

Play ball!
It's not that complicated, howie. Tell me that you know, unequivocally, with supporting data, that these players will be infinitely more safe with almost no positive tests by NOT playing than they would be by playing. If you can do that, I'll certainly concede that punting the entire season was the right choice.

That by NOT playing football, they will do all of the other things they are supposed to do, proper protocols and procedures and best practices, avoid parties and all other group activities, et al. That there won't be increased drug and alcohol use, significantly increased risk of suicidal thoughts, increased likelihood of falling into other bad habits with so much idle time for this age demographic.

I mean, if this is such a no-brainer decision, you should be able to provide a mountain of irrefutable evidence.
 



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It's not that complicated, howie. Tell me that you know, unequivocally, with supporting data, that these players will be infinitely more safe with almost no positive tests by NOT playing than they would be by playing. If you can do that, I'll certainly concede that punting the entire season was the right choice.

That by NOT playing football, they will do all of the other things they are supposed to do, proper protocols and procedures and best practices, avoid parties and all other group activities, et al. That there won't be increased drug and alcohol use, significantly increased risk of suicidal thoughts, increased likelihood of falling into other bad habits with so much idle time for this age demographic.

I mean, if this is such a no-brainer decision, you should be able to provide a mountain of irrefutable evidence.
typical fake, hysterical response.

If you’re demanding such ludicrous “proof” data, then you’re advocating for them never to leave their homes forever no mater what, since such guarantees never exist no matter what.
 

Better now than later. They'll miss practice for likely a week, maybe two, and be back at it. These are the things that are going to happen and have been planned and accounted for

Its going to be both now and later. Should these players go through cardiac screening before returning to play? If it were my kid, I'd say yes. How much of an additional delay would that cause? Just an EKG? No problem. Cardiac MRI? More invasive and more delay.
 




So you're saying all the unknown health risks supersedes a healthy life by playing a little game of football this fall?
I think your sarcasm meter is broken. Or mine is.
 

Yes better now than later, but you can't guarantee every team will be lucky enough to have this happen before the season. What if this continues to happen during the season? Currently there is only time allotted for a team to make up 1 or 2 games at the end of the season, what if they have to make up 3 or 4? What happens if a different mini-outbreak happens on one team the week of a makeup game? How long can you keep delaying games?
Oh my gosh- I never thought of that. What if 5 players got injured and couldn’t play in a game?
 

Oh my gosh- I never thought of that. What if 5 players got injured and couldn’t play in a game?
Ya, those sprained knees and separated shoulders are so contagious. I don't know what they would do, but maybe some jackass who thinks it's at all analogous would know how they'd handle it..
 

Ya, those sprained knees and separated shoulders are so contagious. I don't know what they would do, but maybe some jackass who thinks it's at all analogous would know how they'd handle it..
I’m sure there’s a jackass who think the Oklahoma O-Line is spending their free time volunteering at the Norman nursing home.
 

I’m sure there’s a jackass who think the Oklahoma O-Line is spending their free time volunteering at the Norman nursing home.
Boys and girls, what we've learned here is that the only place these fine young men can acquire this virus is on the field of competitive battle.
 

Oh my gosh- I never thought of that. What if 5 players got injured and couldn’t play in a game?
Have you ever heard of an entire position group all getting injured suddenly? Have you ever seen a team have to deal with that on short notice? I don't think so.

Your starting OL all get injured over the course of the season, sure, but you have time to practice the replacements and pull players from other position groups as a last defense in case you are worried of literally running out of players. This is an entire position group being wiped out in a day. Depending on what day that happens on, you don't have time to have replacement players practice.
 

Have you ever heard of an entire position group all getting injured suddenly? Have you ever seen a team have to deal with that on short notice? I don't think so.
You're right. Injuries can last weeks, or the entire season or an entire career. Testing positive will keep you out of practice for a couple of days, or a week or so, until you clear protocol.
 

You're right. Injuries can last weeks, or the entire season or an entire career. Testing positive will keep you out of practice for a couple of days, or a week or so, until you clear protocol.
Like I tried to point out, it's not the length of time the players are out, it's the quantity of players out in such a short period of time.

Again, have you ever heard of an entire position group being taken out on such short notice?
 

There’s going to be that one, or two, or 5 kids that are f’ed up for life from going ahead with college football. Give it some time. Someone will die.
 

Boys and girls, what we've learned here is that the only place these fine young men can acquire this virus is on the field of competitive battle.
Not only on the field- remember they are already practicing 20+ hours per week. The only way they can get Corona is by playing a 3 hour game vs an opponent.
 

There’s going to be that one, or two, or 5 kids that are f’ed up for life from going ahead with college football. Give it some time. Someone will die.
Then why are they allowed to practice? And why are they planning for a delayed start in January?
 




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