Kent's blog: Brewster says Carter to play Saturday

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He said Brewster did not divulge how the matter was handled internally, but Carter will be playing Saturday against Illinois.
 

I promise to never comment on how Iowa/Wisconsin, etc. punish their athletes from this point forward.

Beat Illinois! Orlando or San Antonio please!
 

Maximus said:
I promise to never comment on how Iowa/Wisconsin, etc. punish their athletes from this point forward.

Beat Illinois! Orlando or San Antonio please!
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ha ha unbelievable isn't it.
 

Maybe Brewster has some inside info that this is much ado about nothing (a.k.a D-weed cop). OTOH, maybe he pulls an Urban Meyer and Carter spends the first half of the SDSU Jackrabbit game folding towels.
 

maybe more to the story than we know.

Still dumb move on many levels if true about Carter.
 


Can you "handle" the situation after the season is over?
 

I think serving drinks to Chris Voelz would be punishment enough for 2 quarters of the game. :)

Oh how I disliked her!
 

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit reading that. Problem is he could only fulfill that punishment during a night game, as her kind can't be in direct sunlight. I wonder where Darth Voelz is nowadays?

P.S. I agree with you that regardless of the legality of Carter's situation, he displayed an amazing lack of grey matter throughout this episode. You never mouth off to a cop, as they always get the last word.
 

GVBadger said:
Maybe the holier then thou, Punky is a stern disciplanarian and ______________ is not garbage will end now.

Then again, it probably won't.

Surprised the AD does not have a policy on this. At Wisconsin, he would have been immediatley suspended per AD policy.
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please! :clap:

suspended from what? running bert bielema's errands for a couple days? a day of practice? maybe told to run some wind sprints or hills? or maybe he would have to sit out the first defensive series against cal poly in 2014? which one? :rolleyes:
 



Too Long in the Wasteland said:
You never mouth off to a cop, as they always get the last word.
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What's described is a bit more than just mouthing off.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/68637447.html
According to the University of Minnesota police report, Carter, 18, and Gophers teammate Kenny Watkins, 18, a freshman defensive back, were observed trying to pick a fight with two other males outside of Mesa Pizza just before midnight Sunday. Carter was seen removing his coat and throwing it on the ground, then raising both fists in a fighting stance, the report said. Watkins then raised his fists.

The other two males appeared to be afraid, and kept walking as Carter and Watkins attempted to surround them, according to the police report. The other males kept walking, and Carter and Watkins eventually turned and went inside Mesa Pizza. The officer at the scene interviewed the other two males, who said Carter and Watkins were attempting to pick a fight with them.

The officer requested back-up, and when another officer arrived both went inside Mesa Pizza and took the two players outside. Watkins complied with instructions for a pat search, but Carter refused to put his hands on a wall, and when an officer grabbed his arm, attempting to throw him to the ground, Carter spun around. Both officers then attempted to get control of Carter, who continued to resist the officers even as several additional Gophers football players came outside and yelled at him to stop.

One of the officers removed a taser gun and pointed it at Carter's chest, according to the report. The player was ultimately wrestled to the ground, handcuffed and taken to the Hennepin County jail.

Carter was given a PBT test for alcohol, and registered .055.
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Carter is of course entitled to due process, but if there are corroborating witnesses to this then I don't agree with the decision to let him play. It's more than just getting drunk it's refusing to comply with an officer's instructions and physically resisting arrest. That's inexcusable even if the cop was a dick, which hasn't even been suggested from any reports so far.

I also find the accusation that he and Watkins attempted to surround the guys who were trying to walk away troubling. Dudes need to tone down their testosterone and use their heads.
 

Khaliq said:
What's described is a bit more than just mouthing off.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/68637447.htmlCarter is of course entitled to due process, but if there are corroborating witnesses to this then I don't agree with the decision to let him play. It's more than just getting drunk it's refusing to comply with an officer's instructions and physically resisting arrest. That's inexcusable even if the cop was a dick, which hasn't even been suggested from any reports so far.

I also find the accusation that he and Watkins attempted to surround the guys who were trying to walk away troubling. Dudes need to tone down their testosterone and use their heads.
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that is fine that you don't agree (not surprised), but in the end it isn't your, or my, or anyone else's decision whether or not he plays. it is up to coach brewster and joel maturi. obviously they feel he should be able to play.

i have no problem with him suiting up. based on the police report there seemed to be some antagonistic actions by the umpd that helped escalate the whole situation to a level it really didn’t need to go to.
 


GVBadger said:
Maybe the holier then thou, Punky is a stern disciplanarian and ______________ is not garbage will end now.

Then again, it probably won't.

Surprised the AD does not have a policy on this. At Wisconsin, he would have been immediatley suspended per AD policy.
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UW would suspend players over misdemeanors? Minnesota suspends you for felonies automatically (that was what the whole Mbakwe stuff was about) and it sounds like that is what you are referring to at UW but I sincerely doubt either school has a rule on the books that suspends automatically based on misdemeanors.

Not saying he shouldn't be suspended (we could at least pull a Florida and take away a half), just saying I think the fact that these are lesser charges legally might have something to do with it not being so automatic.
 



.055? This is a case of a kid getting drunk for the first time. It only took a couple beers.

Hopefully he learned his lesson via humiliation.
 

Bronko Nagurski Gopher said:
that is fine that you don't agree (not surprised), but in the end it isn't your, or my, or anyone else's decision whether or not he plays. it is up to coach brewster and joel maturi. obviously they feel he should be able to play.

i have no problem with him suiting up. based on the police report there seemed to be some antagonistic actions by the umpd that helped escalate the whole situation to a level it really didn’t need to go to.
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Well, I guess my problem is that we don't even need him this week. Sitting him would send a strong, good message about the accountability Brew expects from players. I think it's a fair point and I'm disappointed they don't see it that way.

I'm not going to turn it into a huge, enduring issue or anything. I just think it's the wrong move.
 


I would like GVBadger to be suspended from posting per GH policy.
 


I sense Brew being much more lax then Tubby and I don't like it. Combine this incident with Whaley's being 'handled internally' with the complete lack of discipline on the field and I am quite concerned about Brewster's handle on this football team. He should have been suspended for a minimum of two games, period and so should Whaley. This 'handled internally' stuff is BS. The only thing that matters to these guys is playing time. Any other punishment you dish out is small potatoes.
 

Plinnius said:
The game against Illinois is a home game.
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Missing the point, as usual.

I have no idea why the administration suspended him for away games. That was the decision they made. Agree with it, disagree with it, whatever.

The point is the holier then thou crap does not work anymore. Simple as that. Not that it ever did, but it is quite clear now.
 

GVBadger said:
Funny stuff.

The facts are different. Believe what you want.

Just no more holier then thou Punky stuff. It does not fly.
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You should write an email to the startribune about it.
 

HLGopher said:
.055? This is a case of a kid getting drunk for the first time. It only took a couple beers.

Hopefully he learned his lesson via humiliation.
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And technically .055 is not considered legally drunk (.08 in the case of driving). Although when people get intoxicated for the first time, which may or may not be the case here, then even having a low level of intoxication could cause him to act in such a manner.

That being said I cannot believe that no discipline in the form of lost playing time has been handed out yet.
 

Punky, GVBadger? Really? Really? Your wit is a step below Bronko's.
 


Welcome to big time college football and the way those programs are run. Agree or not, that's the way it is.
 

howeda7 said:
I sense Brew being much more lax then Tubby and I don't like it. Combine this incident with Whaley's being 'handled internally' with the complete lack of discipline on the field and I am quite concerned about Brewster's handle on this football team. He should have been suspended for a minimum of two games, period and so should Whaley. This 'handled internally' stuff is BS. The only thing that matters to these guys is playing time. Any other punishment you dish out is small potatoes.
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i am quite concerned about your "handle" on reality. stop being so dramatic! some of you basketball posters are too much. :rolleyes:
 

Bronko Nagurski Gopher said:
based on the police report there seemed to be some antagonistic actions by the umpd that helped escalate the whole situation to a level it really didn’t need to go to.
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I think you should change that whole statement to, "based on what I read from the Star Tribune and my primal urge to believe that police officers are antagonistic, the umpd helped escalate the whole situation to a level it really didn't need to go."

The police report was vanilla. An officer will never intelligently write anything about themselves that will bring their actions into question (Maybe in the south) Everything they do is procedural or in reaction to another's actions, and it may be hard to believe, but they do have significant training. Considering the force continuum and Carter's actions, use of a takedown and wielding a taser were acceptable means to gain compliance.

If you think all cops are out to get someone, quit kidding yourself. The amount of education to get a police job in this state requires a 2 year degree and pretty much necessitates a 4 year degree because of competition. I don't think anyone with a grudge is going to consider it worth the tens of thousands of dollars. Also, law enforcement is far from the good 'ol boy system it used to be. It's a profession. Quit watching tv and basing your opinions on it.
 



Khaliq said:
I would like GVBadger to be suspended from posting per GH policy.
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Agreed. If GVBadger wants to come to our board and defend the Badgers or take part in a legitimate debate that's fine. However, his backhanded insults and indirect disrespect is getting old. You're not the worst I've seen GVB, but if you want to refer to our coach as "Punky", go over to buckyville for that garbage. I'm not sure a suspension is in order unless he's already been warned once. That being said, this has been going on for a while now. I don't think we should be putting up with any poster that shows our coach that much disrespect.
 

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