Jamison Battle to enter the Transfer Portal

[cjbfbp]

I think you should stop down at the track and tell that to a woman’s shot putter to her face.

I was joking! Maybe there are idiots who would say something like that seriously but I'm not one of those. I was playing into the claims about the U being a bastion of wokeness.

 

[cjbfbp]

Anyone who wants battle out is insane. When he actually had satisfactory guard play he was great... yes his natural position is the 4 and yes we have Garcia.. but there's plenty of minutes for Battle here... There's much to speculate into why he would leave... But unless he opens up like Austin Booker sorta did we will never know.

He doesn't want to play here any longer. If a player no longer wants to play for you, he isn't worth a bucket of spit.

 

[bga1]

Anyone who wants battle out is insane. When he actually had satisfactory guard play he was great... yes his natural position is the 4 and yes we have Garcia.. but there's plenty of minutes for Battle here... There's much to speculate into why he would leave... But unless he opens up like Austin Booker sorta did we will never know.

I think we would all love to have him as a 25 minute 6th man type, or if we didn't have Garcia- he'd be a nice 4 man along side of Payne. He doesn't fit otherwise. I think Battle wants to put up numbers and he needs to be paired with the right guards to do so.

Why would we want to repeat last year where he chucked up forced shots and had the worst efficiency among our top 7 players? Worse than the freshmen- Henley and Carrington. He shot tons of 3s at the 31 percent clip and didn't help the other players get better.

 

[Off-GridTNgopher]

He doesn't want to play here any longer. If a player no longer wants to play for you, he isn't worth a bucket of spit.

I agree.. any you can have both these opinions at the same time..

Fuck him.. he wants out.. anyway he can.. that's fine... But you can't disagree with the stats and facts right out in front of you.. Ben's 1st year here Battle was better but he had much better guard play.. Battle is a SOLID player with a team that is built properly around him

 

[Spaulding!No!]

Maybe it’s coaching and scheme

Fire Ben and hire the right person and recruit Battle for next year is the correct answer. I personally believe we will see this occur.

 

[cjbfbp]

What are you talking about? The 76ers won 56 games and lost in the NBA finals with AI. They haven’t made the finals or won that many games in the regular season since.

Don't lecture me on the Sixers. I've forgotten more about that team than you'll ever know.

If you actually read the post instead of immediately jumping at another lame attempt to attack me (I don't know why you keep trying; you always fail), you'll see that I acknowledged his greatness and that he led that team to great moments. The NBA finals appearance was 6 years before the trade. At that point, he no longer wanted to play for the team. They traded him midseason and they were a better team for the rest of the season (due in no small part of Andre Miller) than they were before the trade.

 

[Wet_Blanket_Guy]

Big Ten needs to institute a conference rule requiring a one-year sit out, no matter what, all sports, if you transfer within the conference.

Good god man, have some F'ing respect. Transfer out of the conference.

Race Thompson must be saying some sweet things to Jamison Battle - weren't the two AAU teammates?

 

[cjbfbp]

Battle is a SOLID player with a team that is built properly around him

Maybe, but he doesn't want to play here any longer and I can understand if Johnson doesn't want to build a team around him. Garcia performed head and shoulders above Battle this year (19.3 player efficiency rating and 53.4% True Shooting percentage vs. Battle's 9.4 and 47.3%) and Payne might be an emerging star. Battle wasn't even close to "average" this year let alone "good."

 

[CentralGopher]

Nah it's far too early too tell. Miles has a 39% in conference record. He never was over .500 in any conference he was in over 20 years in D1 basketball. Ben's story is far from written despite the really bad start under some really tough conditions. Ben should have started out where Miles did at a place like North Dakota State- but he is where he is.

Miles didn’t start out at North Dakota State

 

[cjbfbp]

Fire Ben and hire the right person and recruit Battle for next year is the correct answer. I personally believe we will see this occur.

He's out of eligibility after the upcoming season. Amazing that you can hang here so much and not know basic facts.

 

[formerlybis]

Battle and last year’s team were both better without Garcia. Were the Gophers a better team this year with Garcia? Garcia has better individual stats, but it’s a team game. Nebraska had a guy (maybe not for the first time) a couple years ago who had all kinds of offensive stats, but they never won. Just throwing it out there that Garcia has had this better-without-him thing going at his previous stop.

 

[cjbfbp]

Miles didn’t start out at North Dakota State

True. He started his head coaching at an NAIA school, moved to a D2 school, then moved to NDSU which was D2 at the time but he led them when they first moved to D1.

 

[Spaulding!No!]

He's out of eligibility after the upcoming season. Amazing that you can hang here so much and not know basic facts.

So we wouldn’t want him and the new coach for this upcoming year . Ok.

 

[Tucker32]

I agree.. any you can have both these opinions at the same time..

Fuck him.. he wants out.. anyway he can.. that's fine... But you can't disagree with the stats and facts right out in front of you.. Ben's 1st year here Battle was better but he had much better guard play.. Battle is a SOLID player with a team that is built properly around him

He is not a player you build around. He adds value as a good shooter with the right players around him, where he doesn't have to create his own shot - catch and shoot; one to two dribbles and a shot. He needs to accept this role. He is a liability defensively no matter who is around him.

 

[cjbfbp]

Battle and last year’s team were both better without Garcia. Were the Gophers a better team this year with Garcia? Garcia has better individual stats, but it’s a team game. Nebraska had a guy (maybe not for the first time) a couple years ago who had all kinds of offensive stats, but they never won. Just throwing it out there that Garcia has had this better-without-him thing going at his previous stop.

The basis for your inference about Garcia could just as easily be said about Payne or Cooper. I don't know why people insist on blaming others for Battle's problems this season. He just wasn't good this past season. End of story. Why waste time trying to rationalize a poor performance by a player who has made it clear that he no longer wants to play here?

 

[cjbfbp]

So we wouldn’t want him and the new coach for this upcoming year . Ok.

That wasn't your original claim. Accept the loss and move on.

 

[Gophers_4life]

Race Thompson must be saying some sweet things to Jamison Battle - weren't the two AAU teammates?

Not sure if both went to Cooper or Armstrong or those feeder programs at the same time, but assume so since they were in the same district.

 

[formerlybis]

The basis for your inference about Garcia could just as easily be said about Payne or Cooper. I don't know why people insist on blaming others for Battle's problems this season. He just wasn't good this past season. End of story. Why waste time trying to rationalize a poor performance by a player who has made it clear that he no longer wants to play here?

They didn't play Battle's natural position, however.

I'm not really trying to defend Battle in this line of discussion. My point is to remind people that it's the team that matters, not the individual statistics. I really never cared what numbers Garcia, or the freshmen, were putting up - the team sucked in both offensive and defensive efficiency. In my mind, the talent is less important than having 5 guys who actually play really well together. That's super-unpopular. Most think talent accumulation is the only thing. It's not unimportant, but they won't succeed as 5 individuals.

 

[Bob_Loblaw]

Battle and last year’s team were both better without Garcia. Were the Gophers a better team this year with Garcia? Garcia has better individual stats, but it’s a team game. Nebraska had a guy (maybe not for the first time) a couple years ago who had all kinds of offensive stats, but they never won. Just throwing it out there that Garcia has had this better-without-him thing going at his previous stop.

In my opinion, this has nothing to do with Garcia.

Battle was better without Garcia because he got to play more minutes at the 4.
The team last year was better because we had guards. Like people who could actually play guard - Willis, Loewe, Stephens, and Sutherlin.

I think Garcia started the year struggling a bit but IMO he had a good season. The team around him was so awful that it's a bit lost, but he shot the ball well, I thought he battled on defense (he wasn't great), and he was a good facilitator.

Garcia is a pretty good basketball player.

 

[Bob_Loblaw]

Not sure if both went to Cooper or Armstrong or those feeder programs at the same time, but assume so since they were in the same district.

Battle went to De La Salle.

 

[GopherWeatherGuy]

Don't lecture me on the Sixers. I've forgotten more about that team than you'll ever know.

If you actually read the post instead of immediately jumping at another lame attempt to attack me (I don't know why you keep trying; you always fail), you'll see that I acknowledged his greatness and that he led that team to great moments. The NBA finals appearance was 6 years before the trade. At that point, he no longer wanted to play for the team. They traded him midseason and they were a better team for the rest of the season (due in no small part of Andre Miller) than they were before the trade.

Lol, you are always the one attacking me. Don't make stupid, inaccurate posts if you can't handle it.

They were a better team over a longer period of time with AI than without. They traded him when injuries and age started taking a toll, just like any other NBA superstar.

 

[cjbfbp]

Lol, you are always the one attacking me. Don't make stupid, inaccurate posts if you can't handle it.

They were a better team over a longer period of time with AI than without. They traded him when injuries and age started taking a toll, just like any other NBA superstar.

"LOL," yourself, jackass. Only a dork even uses that expression.

The bolded sentence was never something I contested. This is one of the primary reasons I don't like you: you're a dishonest asshole.

Were you following and watching them closely at the time? I'm from Pennsylvania, grew up a Sixers fan, continued following them throughout life. He wanted to be traded. They did not perform well in the year and a half before he was traded, he was done with the team, and management wanted to move on from him.

 

[MonikerSchmoniker45]

It would be a douche move to go to Indiana but you can't fault the guy for wanting to play his last year in a competent system. That and the game day atmosphere at Assembly Hall is a definite upgrade.

 

[Wet_Blanket_Guy]

"LOL," yourself, jackass. Only a dork even uses that expression.

The bolded sentence was never something I contested. This is one of the primary reasons I don't like you: you're a dishonest asshole.

Were you following and watching them closely at the time? I'm from Pennsylvania, grew up a Sixers fan, continued following them throughout life. He wanted to be traded. They did not perform well in the year and a half before he was traded, he was done with the team, and management wanted to move on from him.

for once I am not public enemy number 1. I have no side on this.

 

[bga1]

Battle and last year’s team were both better without Garcia. Were the Gophers a better team this year with Garcia? Garcia has better individual stats, but it’s a team game. Nebraska had a guy (maybe not for the first time) a couple years ago who had all kinds of offensive stats, but they never won. Just throwing it out there that Garcia has had this better-without-him thing going at his previous stop.

Garcia was far more efficient than Battle and better in every single statistical area except FT%. Battle was better by 78% to 71% but even there Garcia got to the line 3 times as often as Battle. It's just no contest between the two players- Garcia is much better and much tougher to defend.

 

[Wet_Blanket_Guy]

It would be a douche move to go to Indiana but you can't fault the guy for wanting to play his last year in a competent system. That and the game day atmosphere at Assembly Hall is a definite upgrade.

that and maybe he believes Woodson, with his NBA pedigree and connections, can help him prepare for a basketball career after college (whether Europe / Asia / G-league, or the extreme long-shot NBA)

 

[MonikerSchmoniker45]

that and maybe he believes Woodson, with his NBA pedigree and connections, can help him prepare for a basketball career after college (whether Europe / Asia / G-league, or the extreme long-shot NBA)

That too. There's many reasons to play anywhere but the U right now.

 

[Wet_Blanket_Guy]

That too. There's many reasons to play anywhere but the U right now.

I tried to not be negative towards the U in a response for once.

 

[Gophers_4life]

Battle went to De La Salle.

Yes, but roster bio says he grew up in Robbinsdale (Cooper and Armstrong are the district high schools). So they easily could’ve played youth or in feeder programs with or against each other, in that area, before he went into the Catholic system.

 

[Spaulding!No!]

That too. There's many reasons to play anywhere but the U right now.

Agreed. This is why Coyle should fire the staff now. Esp if Garcia moves into the portal this week. Of course, people will blame NIL money and ignore the obvious.