Injury Watch: 1/31 - Pitino: Dre out for NW and unlikely for Purdue

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ruling him out already for nw, when they are 9 days out, thats not a good sign at all
 

This is starting to sound like a 4 week injury. At least he didn't tear his ACL, which is what I initially feared when he went down.
 

BarnBoy said:
Interesting perspective from a local foot doctor. Compares the injury to an injury Kobie suffered awhile back.

Local doctor guy's take.
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His statements are encouraging, but his basis for saying them seems wildly speculative. Not only has he not examined the patient or the MRI, he didn't even watch the video of the injury? He's just relying on what "people told him" and then giving an estimate of how long Andre will be out?
 

MadtownGopher said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Andre Hollins has a severe ankle injury. Out at least the next two games vs. Nebraska and Northwestern, Pitino said today. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Gophers&src=hash">#Gophers</a></p>— Marcus R. Fuller (@GophersNow) <a href="https://twitter.com/GophersNow/statuses/427129043008249857">January 25, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Though this isn't encouraging, Minnesota proved it could beat a very good team without him. If the Gophers are going to lose a player, it might as well be a guard (even though Dre is the team's best scorer). Missing someone like EE would be more devastating in my opinion. Ankle sprains are tricky. They are so much different than broken bones when it comes to the healing process. With a broken bone, it's more straightforward. The bones fuses back, you re-gain strength and return (which is a long process in itself). With a "severe" ankle sprain, you cannot put any weight on it for 2-3 weeks and then after that, who knows. Sometimes you can start walking on it after 12-20 days, but sometimes you can't. When Dre does come back, he's initially not going to be 100%, which is something to be considered as well. Obviously he's going to be taped up and using a brace, but he will -- like all players who sprain their ankle severely -- be more susceptible to re-injury before the initial incident.
 

WanderingGopher said:
This is starting to sound like a 4 week injury. At least he didn't tear his ACL, which is what I initially feared when he went down.
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It's really a "rest of the season injury". He won't be 100% until he can rest for a month.

I'm kinda torn. Part of me thinks he should try and play as soon as he can be effective, but the other part thinks he should just shut it down for a month or so and come back close to 100%.
 


GophersInIowa said:
It's really a "rest of the season injury". He won't be 100% until he can rest for a month.

I'm kinda torn. Part of me thinks he should try and play as soon as he can be effective, but the other part thinks he should just shut it down for a month or so and come back close to 100%.
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If we continue to win he'll continue to rest. If we go on a losing streak that could jeopardize our shot at the NCAA Tournament then he'll come back sooner. I trust Pitino, he was able to work some magic with FIU's depleted roster last year, he'll be able to do it for us this year.
 

amelia tweeted this

Andre Hollins is definitely not playing vs. Nebraska, Pitino said, and unlikely for Northwestern. Worse than they thought, he said. #Gophers
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Better have Andre get in touch with Arod.

Doesn't sound good. Without Andre teams are really going to pressure our guards. Mathieu is our only guard that is a decent ball handler now.
 



station19 said:
Better have Andre get in touch with Arod. Doesn't sound good. Without Andre teams are really going to pressure our guards. Mathieu is our only guard that is a decent ball handler now.
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I heard Andre Hollins has auto correct problems with his cell phone too.
 

BigGopherFan said:
Though this isn't encouraging, Minnesota proved it could beat a very good team without him. If the Gophers are going to lose a player, it might as well be a guard (even though Dre is the team's best scorer). Missing someone like EE would be more devastating in my opinion. Ankle sprains are tricky. They are so much different than broken bones when it comes to the healing process. With a broken bone, it's more straightforward. The bones fuses back, you re-gain strength and return (which is a long process in itself). With a "severe" ankle sprain, you cannot put any weight on it for 2-3 weeks and then after that, who knows. Sometimes you can start walking on it after 12-20 days, but sometimes you can't. When Dre does come back, he's initially not going to be 100%, which is something to be considered as well. Obviously he's going to be taped up and using a brace, but he will -- like all players who sprain their ankle severely -- be more susceptible to re-injury before the initial incident.
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What????? 12-20 days to walk forward? Issue is lateral movement and jumping...silly to post something like that in terms of time to walk
 

He needs to travel to Germany for a little blood platelet spinning to speed up the healing process.
 

BigGopherFan said:
Though this isn't encouraging, Minnesota proved it could beat a very good team without him. If the Gophers are going to lose a player, it might as well be a guard (even though Dre is the team's best scorer). Missing someone like EE would be more devastating in my opinion. Ankle sprains are tricky. They are so much different than broken bones when it comes to the healing process. With a broken bone, it's more straightforward. The bones fuses back, you re-gain strength and return (which is a long process in itself). With a "severe" ankle sprain, you cannot put any weight on it for 2-3 weeks and then after that, who knows. Sometimes you can start walking on it after 12-20 days, but sometimes you can't. When Dre does come back, he's initially not going to be 100%, which is something to be considered as well. Obviously he's going to be taped up and using a brace, but he will -- like all players who sprain their ankle severely -- be more susceptible to re-injury before the initial incident.
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You're aware that Andre was walking on it at the end of the game, right? Wasn't even limping that much. Severe is a pretty subjective term. My guess is Pitino's idea of severe isn't lining up with your idea of severe.
 



GophersOnTheRise said:
You're aware that Andre was walking on it at the end of the game, right? Wasn't even limping that much. Severe is a pretty subjective term. My guess is Pitino's idea of severe isn't lining up with your idea of severe.
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OP take is idiotic unless he thinks Dre is 85 years old
 

FYI, they called a foul in a similar play in tonight's Michigan-Michigan St. It was called against Appling as the shooter's foot came down and hit his lower leg after a 3-pointer.
 

GophersInIowa said:
FYI, they called a foul in a similar play in tonight's Michigan-Michigan St. It was called against Appling as the shooter's foot came down and hit his lower leg after a 3-pointer.
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Definitely invaded Dre's rightful space. Should have been a foul. Also, as OP noted, this was a point of emphasis in the NBA last year
 

jamalo said:
Definitely invaded Dre's rightful space. Should have been a foul. Also, as OP noted, this was a point of emphasis in the NBA last year
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Maybe next year it will be a POE in the NCAA next year.


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It was a lateral ankle sprain on his L side, AKA an inversion sprain. It was not a severe ankle sprain by medical definition, as the MRI said there was not a full tear. If you need a better definition of ankle sprain severity, look here:

http://www.betterbraces.com/ankle-sprain-degrees

Based on his inability to put weight on the foot right after the injury, I would say it was a grade II sprain, which again, would not medically be classified as severe. Because it was a lateral ankle sprain and not a syndesmotic or "high ankle" sprain, his recovery time will be quicker. This reference says 10-30 days: http://www.sportmedbc.com/article/ankle-sprains. He'll get good rehab and is probably very motivated, and at worst he should be able to return in a few weeks, even if he has to wear an ankle brace for awhile.
 

The Goofy Gopher said:
It was a lateral ankle sprain on his L side, AKA an inversion sprain. It was not a severe ankle sprain by medical definition, as the MRI said there was not a full tear. If you need a better definition of ankle sprain severity, look here:

http://www.betterbraces.com/ankle-sprain-degrees



Based on his inability to put weight on the foot right after the injury, I would say it was a grade II sprain, which again, would not medically be classified as severe. Because it was a lateral ankle sprain and not a syndesmotic or "high ankle" sprain, his recovery time will be quicker. This reference says 10-30 days: http://www.sportmedbc.com/article/ankle-sprains. He'll get good rehab and is probably very motivated, and at worst he should be able to return in a few weeks, even if he has to wear an ankle brace for awhile.
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Are you an MD or did you just google that?
 

The Goofy Gopher said:
It was a lateral ankle sprain on his L side, AKA an inversion sprain. It was not a severe ankle sprain by medical definition, as the MRI said there was not a full tear. If you need a better definition of ankle sprain severity, look here:

http://www.betterbraces.com/ankle-sprain-degrees

Based on his inability to put weight on the foot right after the injury, I would say it was a grade II sprain, which again, would not medically be classified as severe. Because it was a lateral ankle sprain and not a syndesmotic or "high ankle" sprain, his recovery time will be quicker. This reference says 10-30 days: http://www.sportmedbc.com/article/ankle-sprains. He'll get good rehab and is probably very motivated, and at worst he should be able to return in a few weeks, even if he has to wear an ankle brace for awhile.
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That doesn't sound very quick to me.
 

The Goofy Gopher said:
It was a lateral ankle sprain on his L side, AKA an inversion sprain. It was not a severe ankle sprain by medical definition, as the MRI said there was not a full tear. If you need a better definition of ankle sprain severity, look here:

http://www.betterbraces.com/ankle-sprain-degrees

Based on his inability to put weight on the foot right after the injury, I would say it was a grade II sprain, which again, would not medically be classified as severe. Because it was a lateral ankle sprain and not a syndesmotic or "high ankle" sprain, his recovery time will be quicker. This reference says 10-30 days: http://www.sportmedbc.com/article/ankle-sprains. He'll get good rehab and is probably very motivated, and at worst he should be able to return in a few weeks, even if he has to wear an ankle brace for awhile.
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In the Navy, we refer to that as port side damage aloft.
 


The Goofy Gopher said:
I'm a physical therapist, and I posted references so that people didn't think I was just talking out of my hat.
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References can be obtained with Google, so I was making sure.

I assumed as much, as you seemed knowledgeable, but you should see some of these guys, its like they stayed at holiday inn express.... they think they can do anything....
 

Disclaimer: No medical background whatsoever.

When they showed Dre in the pregame shootaround, it looked bad. As in, didn't seem like he was anywhere near ready to start walking normally let alone come back and play
 

fryguy22 said:
Disclaimer: No medical background whatsoever.

When they showed Dre in the pregame shootaround, it looked bad. As in, didn't seem like he was anywhere near ready to start walking normally let alone come back and play
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He was in a walking boot which explains why "it looked bad." Having treated hundreds of ankle sprains and having had them myself, it is difficult to say when he will be back even if you see the official MRI report . A rough estimate would be 2-6 weeks. Hopefully his pain will be limited so he can began rehab now.
 

fryguy22 said:
Disclaimer: No medical background whatsoever.

When they showed Dre in the pregame shootaround, it looked bad. As in, didn't seem like he was anywhere near ready to start walking normally let alone come back and play
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This is the second reference I've seen to this and I don't understand it. He was in a walking boot. Even if he were healthy, he wouldn't have moved much differently while wearing that. I can't believe you can infer anything from how he looked yesterday while very casually participating in a the shoot around. The fact that he was out there at all is encouraging.
 


Re: Rough Estimate

gopherMD said:
He was in a walking boot which explains why "it looked bad." Having treated hundreds of ankle sprains and having had them myself, it is difficult to say when he will be back even if you see the official MRI report . A rough estimate would be 2-6 weeks. Hopefully his pain will be limited so he can began rehab now.
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I was thinking more like 1-7 weeks.
 


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