But we've also had times in the past where there was turmoil during the year, that hasn't happened this year. Maybe that means things are changing?If the past is the best predictor of the future, there will be turmoil and uncertainty surrounding the roster and the staff, effectively preventing the team from achieveing its potential. Armelin is likely gone which I consider a significant loss. Mbakwe and Rodney both have kids and need to make money, so I think they will head off to Europe. Unless he can find a Vincent Grier this spring, nothing that has happened to date under Tubby leads me to believe that a fifth place finish is going to happen next year. I hope that you are right and I am wrong.