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per this update from SuperPrep.com:

Philadelphia, Pa., native Ibraheim Campbell is a young man with lofty goals in life, however the base of them do not fall on the gridiron. Campbell wants to enroll pre-med when he hits college and plans to be a doctor after playing football. With two offers in hand already, he’s on his way to that opportunity.

Ibraheim Campbell was extremely productive for Chestnut Hill Academy as a junior, carrying the ball 241 times for 1772 yards and 23 touchdowns. The 5-foot-11.5, 190-pound athlete also made 53 tackles and intercepted two passes, showing why teams are recruiting him at both tailback and defensive back.

“Right now I have offers from Minnesota and Vanderbilt,” Campbell said. “I have also been getting a solid amount of interest from UCLA, Virginia, Northwestern and Connecticut.”

“Vanderbilt offered me to play running back. I like them because they offer quality academics and also have a solid football program that has been on the rise lately. They won their first bowl game in a while this year and are rising in the SEC.”

“Minnesota originally offered me to play running back as well, but I told them I preferred safety and they switched it to strong safety,” Campbell explained. “My brother has a friend that works for the Vikings, so he gave them my film and they offered off of that. I have been reading up on them lately and see they have great tradition at running back there and play in a strong conference.”

Campbell reports a 3.53 core GPA and scored a 22 on his ACT. Academics will play a large role in his decision.

Go Gophers!!
 

Med School

If he really wants to be pre-med, the UofM Med School should be a solid draw!
 

The kid doesn't want an education. He's trying to make it big in the NFL. If he was serious about his education, he would've know the U of M is one of the best Med School in the country.
 

FrogDung said:
The kid doesn't want an education. He's trying to make it big in the NFL. If he was serious about his education, he would've know the U of M is one of the best Med School in the country.
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To say this kid is looking for a ticket to the NFL, while not serious about his academics, is a pretty crappy assumption. I know a lot of kids say this, but come on. Do you know him personally or something? What makes you so sure about this? I'm just curious.
 



FrogDung said:
The kid doesn't want an education. He's trying to make it big in the NFL. If he was serious about his education, he would've know the U of M is one of the best Med School in the country.
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Wow...ragging on a HS kid's committment to his education after reading a few paragraphs about him. Classy!

If he's just starting his college search he may not be fully aware of what every school has to offer or what the rankings are. Sure, he can get a ranking in 30 seconds with a Google search, but what does that really mean? Researching schools takes time...maybe he hasn't started on that yet?

I was extremely serious about my education and it took me a while to understand what schools in the field I wanted to pursue were ranked where and why they were ranked that way. It also took some time to determine whether they fit my needs/goals. Rankings mean absolutely nothing if the school doesn't fit you.
 

He better take his studies more seriously than he has in high school if his 22 is indicative of his intelligence level.
 

FYI

Vanderbilt, UCLA, Northwestern (and others including UW and Michigan) have higher ranked medical schools than the U.
 

dpodoll68 said:
He better take his studies more seriously than he has in high school if his 22 is indicative of his intelligence level.
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I agree completely with you, if that 22 and a 3.5 GPA in high school is a true indication of his intelligence level it doesn't matter what the med school is ranked as he will not be going to any of them, except for maybe in Guatamala. He will definitely have to buckle down and concentrate on his academics in college if that is his goal.
 



GopherGod said:
I agree completely with you, if that 22 and a 3.5 GPA in high school is a true indication of his intelligence level it doesn't matter what the med school is ranked as he will not be going to any of them, except for maybe in Guatamala. He will definitely have to buckle down and concentrate on his academics in college if that is his goal.
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No way. If he is a minority, involved in a major extracurricular (NCAA DI ball) and can read/speak English (this one is becoming less and less important) he is a lock for just about any medical school in the country.

If he was a female minority they'd give him a full ride.
 

Makes Me Laugh

There is no way someone with a 22 ACT score is on the track to go to Med School. Won't happen unless he heads off to the caribbean....and even that is a stretch. And as far the U of MN Med School ranking, well, it is in the middle of the pack...no better. Mayo Med School is ranked very high, however. UMD Med School, not so much.
 

Totally Disagree

You would be surprised good sir. Schools are ABSOLUTELY ITCHING to give away seats to "underrepresented minorities". If you check the URM box on your med school app and you have a pulse... expect good things (how disgruntled must you all think I am??)

Anyway, Minnesota is definitely up there - better than middle of the pack:
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/grad/med/search/page+2

I don't really get the grading system but most people seem to give way more credit to the research rank - if primary care mattered then a lot of osteopathic schools would be way up there (nothing against DOs).
 

GopherGod said:
I agree completely with you, if that 22 and a 3.5 GPA in high school is a true indication of his intelligence level it doesn't matter what the med school is ranked as he will not be going to any of them, except for maybe in Guatamala. He will definitely have to buckle down and concentrate on his academics in college if that is his goal.
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You probably have a point, but the ACT is an aptitude test, not an intelligence test, and medical schools, to my knowledge, do not ask for ACT scores as a part of the application process. Now the MCAT will be important. I do agree that he, and anyone who wants to be a physician, will have to concentrate on academics to be accepted to med school.
 



Why does the ranking of the U of M med school or any other school matter? That is a graduate program and he is trying to go to undergrad.
 

The U of M ranks #7 on primary care. Primary care is important, but I don't see what Osteopaths, Honeopaths or other voodoo has to do with it.
 

VACTERL said:
No way. If he is a minority, involved in a major extracurricular (NCAA DI ball) and can read/speak English (this one is becoming less and less important) he is a lock for just about any medical school in the country.

If he was a female minority they'd give him a full ride.
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Bingo!
 

grunkiejr said:
Why does the ranking of the U of M med school or any other school matter? That is a graduate program and he is trying to go to undergrad.
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You have a point there, though when here he would definitely have to raise his grades a substantial amount if he hopes to get into medicine, regardless of influencing factors.
 

a few points

1. 22 ACT and 3.53 are just numbers; just as a 4.5 40 doesn't guarantee All-American status, neither does a 22 ACT guarantee that this kid can't get into med school or won't improve his academics when he gets to college.

2. How many high school seniors are planning on a college major that will eventually change? How many college grads ended up changing their majors along the way? Maybe he has visions of being a doctor right now, but will come to realize that the requirements in class, coupled with football commitments will be too much. Or perhaps he's an extremely hard working young man who is dedicated to going to med school and will make it happen.

3. It strikes me that it's more than a bit pathetic that a bunch of anonymous posters on a Gopher fan board are belittling a potential recruit's desires in his future academic/career plans. I would venture to say that not only at Minnesota, but in football offices across the nation a recruit with a 3.53 in his core GPA and a 22 ACT would cause backflips by coaching staffs. In fact, that the kid has a goal to be pre-med is admirable; as stated above, that may change over time, but how many D-1 recruits have given much thought to anything academic as they look towards their futures? If he truly is only thinking about the NFL, I doubt his academics would be so solid.

4. I think it's bad form to take shots at any high school kid trying to figure out their future life goals; on a Gopher fan board, I find it particularly ridiculous. If he's excited about the offer, finds out that there's an article out there about him, and wants to read it and finds the team's fans mocking his academic goals and abilities, does that help our cause?
 

No kidding cool hand. What a pathetic representation of gopher fans this thread is. I mean really why don't you just tell all recruits they suck. how lame are we.
 

coolhandgopher said:
1. 22 ACT and 3.53 are just numbers; just as a 4.5 40 doesn't guarantee All-American status, neither does a 22 ACT guarantee that this kid can't get into med school or won't improve his academics when he gets to college.

2. How many high school seniors are planning on a college major that will eventually change? How many college grads ended up changing their majors along the way? Maybe he has visions of being a doctor right now, but will come to realize that the requirements in class, coupled with football commitments will be too much. Or perhaps he's an extremely hard working young man who is dedicated to going to med school and will make it happen.

3. It strikes me that it's more than a bit pathetic that a bunch of anonymous posters on a Gopher fan board are belittling a potential recruit's desires in his future academic/career plans. I would venture to say that not only at Minnesota, but in football offices across the nation a recruit with a 3.53 in his core GPA and a 22 ACT would cause backflips by coaching staffs. In fact, that the kid has a goal to be pre-med is admirable; as stated above, that may change over time, but how many D-1 recruits have given much thought to anything academic as they look towards their futures? If he truly is only thinking about the NFL, I doubt his academics would be so solid.

4. I think it's bad form to take shots at any high school kid trying to figure out their future life goals; on a Gopher fan board, I find it particularly ridiculous. If he's excited about the offer, finds out that there's an article out there about him, and wants to read it and finds the team's fans mocking his academic goals and abilities, does that help our cause?
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Thank you. Couldn't have said it better myself.
 

coolhandgopher said:
1. 22 ACT and 3.53 are just numbers; just as a 4.5 40 doesn't guarantee All-American status, neither does a 22 ACT guarantee that this kid can't get into med school or won't improve his academics when he gets to college.

2. How many high school seniors are planning on a college major that will eventually change? How many college grads ended up changing their majors along the way? Maybe he has visions of being a doctor right now, but will come to realize that the requirements in class, coupled with football commitments will be too much. Or perhaps he's an extremely hard working young man who is dedicated to going to med school and will make it happen.

3. It strikes me that it's more than a bit pathetic that a bunch of anonymous posters on a Gopher fan board are belittling a potential recruit's desires in his future academic/career plans. I would venture to say that not only at Minnesota, but in football offices across the nation a recruit with a 3.53 in his core GPA and a 22 ACT would cause backflips by coaching staffs. In fact, that the kid has a goal to be pre-med is admirable; as stated above, that may change over time, but how many D-1 recruits have given much thought to anything academic as they look towards their futures? If he truly is only thinking about the NFL, I doubt his academics would be so solid.

4. I think it's bad form to take shots at any high school kid trying to figure out their future life goals; on a Gopher fan board, I find it particularly ridiculous. If he's excited about the offer, finds out that there's an article out there about him, and wants to read it and finds the team's fans mocking his academic goals and abilities, does that help our cause?
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thank you. This thread was pissing me off until I got to your post
 


My problem with the whole thing is the fact that they reported his GPA and test scores, and acted like it was some sort of achievement. Those are not the numbers of a med school attendee, period. I'm not saying the kid can't get better, but it won't happen at his current level. I don't care what color his skin is, or what sports he plays. Things like that may be relevant if he were trying to get into, for example, law school. But as an employee of the medical school, I can tell you that white males are probably the minority of med students here. There are large numbers of females, Asians, Africans, Latin Americans, etc., etc. His minority status won't matter a bit when it comes to med school.

The tone of the report makes it seem like he's God's gift to academics. I would've been embarrassed with those numbers coming out of HS, but maybe that's just me.
 

dpodoll68 said:
My problem with the whole thing is the fact that they reported his GPA and test scores, and acted like it was some sort of achievement. Those are not the numbers of a med school attendee, period. I'm not saying the kid can't get better, but it won't happen at his current level. I don't care what color his skin is, or what sports he plays. Things like that may be relevant if he were trying to get into, for example, law school. But as an employee of the medical school, I can tell you that white males are probably the minority of med students here. There are large numbers of females, Asians, Africans, Latin Americans, etc., etc. His minority status won't matter a bit when it comes to med school.

The tone of the report makes it seem like he's God's gift to academics. I would've been embarrassed with those numbers coming out of HS, but maybe that's just me.
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Embarrassed by that? Wow, you must be really something huh? Seriously? You are going to use the word embarrassed? You're the kind of person who really thinks his sh@#$t doesn't stink. It was a nice article about a kid who may or may not be considering the U of M and the kid has high goals and aspirations and you--"The righteous one" decides that he should be embarrassed by his scores.

Seriously-get a fricken clue!
 

The average ACT score for 2008 was 21.2. The average for the state of PA was 22.2. So, you're telling me he should be proud for scoring below average for his own state?

And yes, I will use the word embarrassed. You can read into it however you want, but I would not have been going around telling people about the awesome 22 I scored. Doing a modicum of research, pre-med programs around the country usually require (at least) a minimum score of 28. He'd better pick up his game if he plans to be an MD.

I will not apologize for having higher standards for myself, nor for placing other's achievements in the context of those standards. Note that I never said he should be embarrassed - I said I would be. Compared to the average D-IA football player, his scores are actually quite solid. But he has delusions of grandeur if he thinks that level of performance will get him accepted into a medical school in the U.S.
 

BrewsterBooster;46468. UMD Med School said:
The only med program UMD offers is Rural Medicine specialists. It is ranked number 1 in the nation. You go as a pre-med in this program, learn how to set up and run an office, and all that goes with it. Then you go to the "U" for actual med school. Do a tiny bit of research before you bring this b.s. By the way the guy could not qualifly with a 22 to this program either.
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dpodoll68 said:
The average ACT score for 2008 was 21.2. The average for the state of PA was 22.2. So, you're telling me he should be proud for scoring below average for his own state?

And yes, I will use the word embarrassed. You can read into it however you want, but I would not have been going around telling people about the awesome 22 I scored. Doing a modicum of research, pre-med programs around the country usually require (at least) a minimum score of 28. He'd better pick up his game if he plans to be an MD.

I will not apologize for having higher standards for myself, nor for placing other's achievements in the context of those standards. Note that I never said he should be embarrassed - I said I would be. Compared to the average D-IA football player, his scores are actually quite solid. But he has delusions of grandeur if he thinks that level of performance will get him accepted into a medical school in the U.S.
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The truth is high school grades and ACT scores don't mean jack once a kid is enrolled in college. After that, hard work and goals are usually the most important factors for success. Today, most division one athletes know what hard work is, and if this kid is determined to be a doctor, he will be.
 

Hooray for coolhandgopher. Excellent points all!

And I think the not-so-veiled racism has no place on any message board.
 

Man I hope the mods get rid of this thread. this embarasses me greatly as a gopher fan and contributor to this forum. You guys are so far out of line I'm not sure how you can call yourself fans.
 

Schnoodler said:
Man I hope the mods get rid of this thread. this embarasses me greatly as a gopher fan and contributor to this forum. You guys are so far out of line I'm not sure how you can call yourself fans.
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I agree. Get rid of it.
 

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