Gopher football

The economy of the twin cities is bigger than Columbus, but the Gopher’s fan base isn’t as large. I think we could be like OhSt if the Twin Cities got behind the Gophers like Columbus get’s behind the Buckeyes, but we are far from that.
But the economy/population of Ohio is like double that of Minnesota and tOSU is their flagship school. Yes, they have other D1 schools, but other than Cincinnati, they're MAC schools with middling support.
 

My guess is no. But a performance like yesterday disinterests in college fb. I went to a weeding and am glad I had something else to do then watch that shit show. I won’t even watch YouTube highlights

I assume you meant "wedding." I would be surprised if a Gopher fan skipped a game to do "weeding."

But, yes, I agree with your decision to skip watching any parts of the game on replay.
 

If that's your idea of competitive, good for you. The rest of us live in the real world.
If people in the "real world" phrased their questions properly, we wouldn't have a problem.

No argument here if you or anyone else would like to ask when will the Gopher program be as visible, with as much money, and share as many wins as Ohio State. I can't imagine any Gopher fan is content with the W-L record that has transpired between OSU and MN.

But that isn't what was asked in the OP. That was the kind of crap that I see in Strib comment sections that pose some vague broad point that when looked at in detail simply isn't true.

Stuff like "The Gophers have sucked my whole life" or "The Gophers have never been good" - when statements like that are objectively and demonstratably false.

Even if the original question had been "When will the Gopher football program be as competitive as Ohio State's" - I wouldn't have taken the time to respond. But that wasn't the question. The question was "Will the Gophers ever be able to compete against a team like OSU" and that brings to mind a lot of examples of times when the Gophers did compete against teams like OSU.

Please don't mistaken that with some sort of complacency with the win loss record vs OSU, Michigan, etc.
 

Yeah well you consider it a loaded question while I consider it a legitimate one. After 40 years of watching the Gopher play football I think I have the right to ask. Plus its only a loaded question when you dont like the answer.
Phrase your question differently and I suspect we might even agree. Phrase it the way you did, and it is objectively a bad question. If you don't understand my point, consider it being pretty similar to this:

Why haven't the Gophers ever won a football game?

vs

Why don't the Gophers win more football games?
 

I pay $100 a month for a streaming service just so I can watch the Gophers. Once the seasons over I cancel it.
That used to be me. Then I decided to not even bother and just watch what was broadcast on regular TV. Works just fine. Most Gopher games aren't worth watching anyways, you can do just fine with the youtube recap.
 


I was at the game last night. If you ever get the chance to go to a game there do it and drink in the money machine that is Ohio St football. They get 105,000 in that stadium . Twice what ours seats and we rarely fill it. My son goes and I was there yesterday morning at 10:30 and the volume of people there at that time tailgating was ridiculous. The police presence between state troopers, sheriffs patrols and locals is wild. They have many large boosters that spend money everywhere at that school. Not just sports but on campus at the medical center and elsewhere. I don’t think we have anyone with the kind of money being thrown about there. While the average fan spend money you need several large donation type boosters like the Wexner’s and others to pony up to buy, and that is the correct term, players of the caliber they have. It is one of the bigger spectacles I have ever been to. While the revenue sharing from tv will help, our ability to pay players, unless the system changes, will probably always pale in comparison to what that football machine produces. You can be embarrassed by that performance if you want, but the talent differential is real. I saw it up close and personal.
I was there, also. All that you say is true, although the actual size of the stadium and the lack of more than one video screen hampered game info, making for a mediocre place to actually watch a game. Being at he top of the stadium may be influencing my feelings.
 

I wish I could take solace in the youth of the team, but with the flood of players rushing through the portal each year, who knows what the roster will look like next year.
Agree and pretty good chance this is our only season with the QB. Someone is gonna pony up and make him rich. It's too bad.
 

Minneapolis is a more desirable place than say, Lincoln, NE.
LOL. No it isn't.

I kind of understand your thinking, but realize, Minneapolis is a joke to quite a large portion of the country.
 




Phrase your question differently and I suspect we might even agree. Phrase it the way you did, and it is objectively a bad question. If you don't understand my point, consider it being pretty similar to this:

Why haven't the Gophers ever won a football game?

vs

Why don't the Gophers win more football games?
Okay fair enough how would the question I asked be phrased not to offend or rile up my fellow Gopher fans?
 

If people in the "real world" phrased their questions properly, we wouldn't have a problem.

No argument here if you or anyone else would like to ask when will the Gopher program be as visible, with as much money, and share as many wins as Ohio State. I can't imagine any Gopher fan is content with the W-L record that has transpired between OSU and MN.

But that isn't what was asked in the OP. That was the kind of crap that I see in Strib comment sections that pose some vague broad point that when looked at in detail simply isn't true.

Stuff like "The Gophers have sucked my whole life" or "The Gophers have never been good" - when statements like that are objectively and demonstratably false.

Even if the original question had been "When will the Gopher football program be as competitive as Ohio State's" - I wouldn't have taken the time to respond. But that wasn't the question. The question was "Will the Gophers ever be able to compete against a team like OSU" and that brings to mind a lot of examples of times when the Gophers did compete against teams like OSU.

Please don't mistaken that with some sort of complacency with the win loss record vs OSU, Michigan, etc.
You do realize that the Gophers are 7-49-5 against OSU all-time right.
So im not sure what you're talking about when you say there are a lot of examples when they did compete.
 

That used to be me. Then I decided to not even bother and just watch what was broadcast on regular TV. Works just fine. Most Gopher games aren't worth watching anyways, you can do just fine with the youtube recap.
If you're technically inclined, you can watch pretty much any game you want.
 

You do realize that the Gophers are 7-49-5 against OSU all-time right.
So im not sure what you're talking about when you say there are a lot of examples when they did compete.
Depends on your definition of what competing is. Not all of the loses were blowouts, a number of them were one score games.

Ohio State is one of the top teams in all of college football and they have been for a long time. If they are the standard you are comparing your team too then you are going to be very disappointed because there are very few programs that can boast the kind of success Ohio State has had in football.

But there is one way we could definitely compete with Ohio State. Just have to find a way to get them to rehire Luke Fickell as their head coach. Frankly what is going on at Wisconsin right now shouldn't surprise anyone. Fickell managed to finish below .500 at Ohio State....that takes skill to pull off.
 



If you're technically inclined, you can watch pretty much any game you want.
Yeah, my friend does that but I don't have the extra computer to dedicate (as it's likely those sites are trying to infect your PC). But still a good point. For me, with roster turnover and not recognizing the players and the added commercials, I just can't put any more effort into finding gopher games.

But like most Minnesotans, if they get hot and stuff, I'll be back on the bandwagon and acting as if I never left. ;)
 

You do realize that the Gophers are 7-49-5 against OSU all-time right.
So im not sure what you're talking about when you say there are a lot of examples when they did compete.
Yes, it is clear you are not sure what I am talking about. After a couple attempts to clarify the same point (complete, with examples), forgive me if I am going to give up on you and your ability to understand what I was saying.
 

Yes, it is clear you are not sure what I am talking about. After a couple attempts to clarify the same point (complete, with examples), forgive me if I am going to give up on you and your ability to understand what I was saying.
I understand what your saying. I also understand that no matter how I formatted the question you would have found something wrong with it. The simple truth is Gopher football has never been able to compete with OSU and never will. So continue on with your arrogance maybe one day you'll impress someone other than yourself.
 

I was at the game last night. If you ever get the chance to go to a game there do it and drink in the money machine that is Ohio St football. They get 105,000 in that stadium . Twice what ours seats and we rarely fill it. My son goes and I was there yesterday morning at 10:30 and the volume of people there at that time tailgating was ridiculous. The police presence between state troopers, sheriffs patrols and locals is wild. They have many large boosters that spend money everywhere at that school. Not just sports but on campus at the medical center and elsewhere. I don’t think we have anyone with the kind of money being thrown about there. While the average fan spend money you need several large donation type boosters like the Wexner’s and others to pony up to buy, and that is the correct term, players of the caliber they have. It is one of the bigger spectacles I have ever been to. While the revenue sharing from tv will help, our ability to pay players, unless the system changes, will probably always pale in comparison to what that football machine produces. You can be embarrassed by that performance if you want, but the talent differential is real. I saw it up close and personal.
My son goes there too, and he explained it to me that half of the OSU crowds are loyal alumni whose experiences and memories at the school were shaped in large part by football Saturdays, and the other half are those who never went to the school, but are from Ohio and are proud as hell of their team, and football is the way to connect themselves to the university. The fanaticism there is real, and unlike anything I've seen from college crowds, especially in the Big Ten (I haven't been to Penn State, but I assume the level there is similar), and it's especially pronounced because The Shoe has no creature comforts. It's huge and old and basic; there's not a ring of suites or sections with comfortable chair backs. It's all bleachers, steep steps and crowded concourses and too few bathrooms, yet the faithful keep coming and handing over their money because the team on the field has been excellent forever. It can't be manufactured or marketed, it's just a unique phenomenon we can never recreate.
 

When it gets to the point where you have to set your expectation level of winning 8 or 9 games is a great season it gets harder to justify watching.
IMO, if your main reason for watching is in hopes of a playoff appearance and chance of a national championship, you're setting yourself for disappointment.

I do think there is a realistic chance they can go to the playoffs at some point in the new format, but it's not the reason I am a fan. The Ohio St game sucked. There's no denying that. But it doesn't negate the fun and excitement of the Rutgers comeback.

Regardless of outcomes each week and each season, the anticipation of the season and the ability to watch them every week outweighs the negative no matter what IMO.
 






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