Forde: B1G advising members it's still possible there will be no season

[VolitileGopher]

From the CDC for 2017-2018 which they classified as a severe flu season, unlike last year which had notably fewer deaths.

"The overall burden of influenza for the 2017-2018 season was an estimated 45 million influenza illnesses, 21 million influenza-associated medical visits, 810,000 influenza-related hospitalizations, and 61,000 influenza-associated deaths"

That's versus 155,000 deaths in 7 months and counting. And you're telling somebody to get a clue? The level of stupidity by the hard core is beyond belief. Make up your own shit; believe the whack jobs that Fox features; take your cues from the guy who is pathetically proud that he can repeat, "Person, woman, man, camera, TV;" and bitch incessantly that the football season is threatened even as your actions are making it more likely that we won't have a season.

Further note. There are vaccines and treatments for the flu. Nothing firm for covid. Long story short, Longer recovery if any for covid leading to strained medical services, which is the real reason for masking, social distancing and lock downs. The whole “but my freedom” crap ignores the bs we put nurses and doctors through.

As for the fat people got it coming angle, you reap what you sew. Most obese country on the planet, but I don’t see you demanding healthy food supplies for the largest segment of Americans, the working poor

we live in a complex world with complex problems in need of complex, thoughtful solutions. Not lunatic left / right fringe garbage talking points.

 

[Pete smith]

Shortly the Gophers(and other Big Ten teams) will have a salvia Test which will give a test result in 5 minutes. Count on it.

 

[GoldenRodents]

There are over 150,000 dead Americans living in a hole right now, you pathetic asshole.

Average age 80 years, many with end-of-life directives in place. Chance of a child or university student dying? 1 in a million. This is a disease that takes out the sick, we let it take out our economy, the consequences will be much more lethal, only Bolsheviks and Maoists could be pleased.

Here is what happened at a Georgia youth camp

" During June 21–27, occupancy of the 31 cabins averaged 15 persons per cabin (range = 1–26); median cabin attack rate was 50% (range = 22%–70%) among 28 cabins that had one or more cases. Among 136 cases with available symptom data, 36 (26%) patients reported no symptoms; among 100 (74%) who reported symptoms, those most commonly reported were subjective or documented fever (65%), headache (61%), and sore throat (46%). "

 

[Plato]

Average age 80 years, many with end-of-life directives in place. Chance of a child or university student dying? 1 in a million. This is a disease that takes out the sick, we let it take out our economy, the consequences will be much more lethal, only Bolsheviks and Maoists could be pleased.

Here is what happened at a Georgia youth camp

" During June 21–27, occupancy of the 31 cabins averaged 15 persons per cabin (range = 1–26); median cabin attack rate was 50% (range = 22%–70%) among 28 cabins that had one or more cases. Among 136 cases with available symptom data, 36 (26%) patients reported no symptoms; among 100 (74%) who reported symptoms, those most commonly reported were subjective or documented fever (65%), headache (61%), and sore throat (46%). "

Golden missed his calling by about 70 years. He would have been perfect candidate help Germany's Final Solution.

 

[GoldenRodents]

Golden missed his calling by about 70 years. He would have been perfect candidate help Germany's Final Solution.

Plato, I would have been with my great uncles in the Battle of the Bulge fighting those Master Race atheists, taking way more casualties than you could endure.

 

[Some guy]

Shortly the Gophers(and other Big Ten teams) will have a salvia Test which will give a test result in 5 minutes. Count on it.

If you could give one of these to every American every day and it was good enough to not give false negatives and positives could go real deal test to confirm and we could open everything up tomorrow.

 

[MplsGopher]

If you could give one of these to every American every day and it was good enough to not give false negatives and positives could go real deal test to confirm and we could open everything up tomorrow.

No, because people who tested positive wouldn’t self-quarentine. Any more than people who refuse to wear masks.

 

[The prez sez]

We should know whether we have a season or not in next two weeks. If it's a go, then that allows for games to begin midseptember and 9-game season concluding before thanksgiving. My hunch: the Big ten will play because there's too much money involved and universities need the revenue.
no chance for spring football

 

[PMWinSTP]

Shortly the Gophers(and other Big Ten teams) will have a salvia Test which will give a test result in 5 minutes. Count on it.

What's salvia?

 

[short ornery norwegian]

Ok, I'll throw this out there just for discussion-

What if - the Gophers say they want to play, and Walz says no, that is not allowed under the covid-19 restrictions?

Given what's been happening, I don't think you can rule that out.

 

[howeda7]

Ok, I'll throw this out there just for discussion-

What if - the Gophers say they want to play, and Walz says no, that is not allowed under the covid-19 restrictions?

Given what's been happening, I don't think you can rule that out.

Is he going to ban the Vikings from playing too? That's a sure way to get voted out. I don't think he'll go there. Twisting arms at the U behind the scenes is another matter.

 

[GopherVotary]

What's salvia?

Another word for sipt.

 

[PMWinSTP]

Another word for sipt.

Sure it's not a sugar substitute?

 

[Panthadad2]

We should know whether we have a season or not in next two weeks. If it's a go, then that allows for games to begin midseptember and 9-game season concluding before thanksgiving. My hunch: the Big ten will play because there's too much money involved and universities need the revenue.
no chance for spring football

Just curious, why do you think there's no chance for spring football? I haven't seen much discussion about the pitfalls of doing that. Most of the conferences around the nation (outside of large D1) are already moving that direction.

 

[A_Slab_of_Bacon]

Ok, I'll throw this out there just for discussion-

What if - the Gophers say they want to play, and Walz says no, that is not allowed under the covid-19 restrictions?

Given what's been happening, I don't think you can rule that out.

He didn't stop the Twins....


There are kids basketball tournaments happening right now in Minnesota....

 

[Ope3]

Just curious, why do you think there's no chance for spring football? I haven't seen much discussion about the pitfalls of doing that. Most of the conferences around the nation (outside of large D1) are already moving that direction.

I don't know it it's "no chance" but slim chance due to:

- What are the odds that it will be much better in the spring? Completely hinges on a vaccine
- Puts 2021 (fall) season at risk. Seriously, going to ask players/kids to play 20-25 games in a calendar year?
- Climate

A month or so ago, I thought "why not give it a go" in the spring. Only way I could see it happening now is if Covid is tamped down significantly and then maybe a short spring season (8 games, give or take) with an abbreviated fall season as well.

 

[Ope3]

Ok, I'll throw this out there just for discussion-

What if - the Gophers say they want to play, and Walz says no, that is not allowed under the covid-19 restrictions?

Given what's been happening, I don't think you can rule that out.

Nothing is impossible, but that seems unlikely unless there were several other states that felt the same way. Baseball is taking place, youth sports, & the PGA was allowed here, I think he'll just go along with other Govs in the Big 10 footprint.

 

[A_Slab_of_Bacon]

Nothing is impossible, but that seems unlikely unless there were several other states that felt the same way. Baseball is taking place, youth sports, & the PGA was allowed here, I think he'll just go along with other Govs in the Big 10 footprint.

It probably helps that those other groups have shown they're willing to shutdown teams when problems pop up.

If they're not being crazy irresponsible, no reason to weigh in.

 

[Block M]

The clue you need is that they are counting every death as a COVID death when most are not due to covid

Who is "they"? Another government conspiracy? Kind of like Sandy Hook?

 

[Block M]

It all points to: they're going to try to have a season, money dictates it, but it's very unlikely they'll be e able to finish it.

Bateman did the right thing and my hope is that a tidal wave of players follow suit to the point that the money-grubbing NCAA has to cancel the funking season.

 

[Plato]

Japan's Okinawa prefecture has declared a state of emergency following a spike in coronavirus infections connected to an outbreak among US forces based in the region.

Okinawa Governor Denny Tamaki on Friday announced that Japan's southernmost prefecture, compromising of dozens of islands, will be placed under a state of emergency between August 1 and 15.

Okinawa declares COVID-19 emergency after US base outbreaks – DW – 08/01/2020

Okinawa has seen a record daily spike in infections in addition to the island's total cases, the majority of which have been traced to US troops based there. The surge has increased tensions among locals and US forces.

www.dw.com

The number of cases per 100,00 in Japan is 0.8. It is ten to twenty times that number in the US.
The outbreak in Okinawa was secondary to US marines going awol over the 4th of July to celebrate among the locals.
They of course were not wearing masks which protect other people.
Masks do not complete protect the wearer.
If everyone wears mask everyone is protected.
Is that so hard to understand?

 

[Unregistered User]

The number of cases per 100,00 in Japan is 0.8. It is ten to twenty times that number in the US.
The outbreak in Okinawa was secondary to US marines going awol over the 4th of July to celebrate among the locals.
They of course were not wearing masks which protect other people.
Masks do not complete protect the wearer.
If everyone wears mask everyone is protected.
Is that so hard to understand?

That was my point. Japan's cases had almost plateaued just before July 4. They were doing things right until the US military members screwed it up. Or it is just a massive coincidence that Japan experienced a spike at the same time.

And Japan currently has ~35 cases per 100,000 vs the current US rate at ~1,486 cases per 100,000. Or over 42 times the cases.

 

[PitinoFan]

Japan...

 

[Some guy]

That was my point. Japan's cases had almost plateaued just before July 4. They were doing things right until the US military members screwed it up. Or it is just a massive coincidence that Japan experienced a spike at the same time.

And Japan currently has ~35 cases per 100,000 vs the current US rate at ~1,486 cases per 100,000. Or over 42 times the cases.

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You can blame whoever you want but until the disease is eradicated or there is herd immunity via either vaccination or people gaining immunity the old fashioned way...any time you open up you’re going to see spikes.

See Australia shutting down schools right now. They handled it best and yet they are now seeing an outbreak.

The window to eradicate the disease was likely over before we even knew it existed.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Big Ten has a student unification group now.

There won't be a single game played.

 

[A_Slab_of_Bacon]

Big Ten has a student unification group now.

There won't be a single game played.

If there are no games... it will have nothing to do with that group, their demands are pretty tepid.

 

[GoGophersUMN]

If there are no games... it will have nothing to do with that group, their demands are pretty tepid.

And they're not threatening to skip camps or games.

Seems like it should be pretty easy for the Big 10 to do some of the things on the list, some of which were likely in progress anyway, and then explain why some of them can't happen. As long as the Big 10 doesn't ignore the group completely they shouldn't stop any games.

 

[hungan1]

If there is one flare up on any team, I am afraid that the the Big Ten, and then the NCAA will shut the rest of the 2020 season down.

 

[hungan1]

I am worried about the future of Gopher Football and Gopher Sports. All sports in general.

What we have to fear is the nature of the Covid19. We seem to think or expect that a vaccine is just around the corner.

We are forgetting that after ten years the AIDS/HIV vaccine efforts were halted. A $100 Million HIV Vaccine Project Failed.

Could it be that Covid19 vaccine efforts will take longer, or even never come to fruition? How will this change the nature of all sports and society?

 

[short ornery norwegian]

I am worried about the future of Gopher Football and Gopher Sports. All sports in general.

What we have to fear is the nature of the Covid19. We seem to think or expect that a vaccine is just around the corner.

We are forgetting that after ten years the AIDS/HIV vaccine efforts were halted. A $100 Million HIV Vaccine Project Failed.

Could it be that Covid19 vaccine efforts will take longer, or even never come to fruition? How will this change the nature of all sports and society?

That's the thing. We are all hoping or expecting that at some point, things will go back to "normal."

Well, if there is no proven vaccine or new treatment, we have to face the possibility that there is going to be a new normal, where this is just part of our daily routine.

I have seen so many theories thrown out about "herd immunity" that I don't know what to believe.

But if we (or most of us) are all walking around with masks on a year from now, all bets are off.

On the plus side, at least we got to see the Gophers win 11 games in a season. We may have to hold onto that memory for a long time.