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Was there a Vaughn chant? I could swear I heard it on TV...Wolfson is saying no....Tweeted it was foolish not to. Agree?



@DarrenWolfson Student section foolishly leaving out Rashad Vaughn and Reid Travis with their chants. Those two more realistic than Tyus. #gophers

@DarrenWolfson When? Never heard from upper deck center court. Not Travis?
 

There was a short "We Want Vaughn" chant going but it wasn't as clear as the chant for Tyus. It came shortly after the second round of "We Want Tyus" chants
 

according to retweets by vaughn there were chants for him, they were just not that loud, here are a few tweets vaughn retweeted

Kevin Nelson ‏@RomiDaMan
wish @ShowtimeMr was sitting closer to the student section, we were rocking a "we want vaughn" chant, @ShowtimeMr and @Tyusjones06 =final 4
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Mr. Gopher ‏@Gopherapolis
I hate that the @ShowtimeMr chants weren't more well heard today, I want him more than anyone in that class #Gophers #StayHome #LocalLegend
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Jonathan Foster ‏@FromTheBarn
@ShowtimeMr love you but your vowels are too soft to get a good chant going. Will work on finding things that rhyme with vaughn
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foolish to worry about student chants... Really think players seriously factor in student section chants... Doogie is being dorky
 

It's fun that the students chant for Tyus (and Vaughn etc.) and just maybe it could make a tiny bit of difference so I'm all for it, but I think it's a stretch to call the strategic chanting of the student section foolish (or smart).
 


THE SCOUT! said:
foolish to worry about student chants... Really think players seriously factor in student section chants... Doogie is being dorky
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Don't think its foolish at all, I mean its not going to be the MAIN factor obviously, but I am sure the kids enjoy the attention, hell, even adults would enjy the attention, and on top of that it makes hard to turn down so many people who want you that badly, I am still in college, seen a lot of people do some crazy things just because people around were chanting it. just saying

on a side note, felt like vaughn was a little disappointing that Tyus got so much love and he didn't by the fans by his retweets, I might be looking too much into it, but thats just my assumption. But a lot of fans did reach out to him on twitter and say that we want him and want not, so good job by them
 

THE SCOUT! said:
foolish to worry about student chants... Really think players seriously factor in student section chants... Doogie is being dorky
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Was thinking the same thing. Oh my gosh, the students forgot about Vaughn and Travis. Oh, the humanity! What about the younger Ellenson? Were his feelings hurt?

Hard-hitting twitter doodle from Doogie.
 

The Gophers finally get a good win, the crowd is great, and Doogie needs to be critical of the lack of a chant for a recruit? I hope that a we want Vaughn chant happened, but if it didn't the student section deserves a break. That was a great crowd for a team/program that's been 12-24 over the past two years with a lot of disappointing home performances.

I usually think the negative media thing is overplayed as the Twin Cities media should be negative about Gopher Football/Basketball when the teams perform poorly which they have for a LONG time. That said, Doogie (or anyone else) deserves criticism for fishing for a negative when things are finally going the right way.
 

Do not think the six recruits at the game are comparing quantities of studentchants received and furthermore basing college decisions on that. Does Doogie think that the student section should find out who the recruits at the game are and plan an orchestrated chant sequence honoring each recruit equally... Moronic
 



All of the recruits at the game should have loved the atmosphere in the barn today. I don't think a chant or no chant would have impacted their experience. I was very impressed with the student section today considering the U of M is off for the holiday. The barn was rocking today.
 

Ryan James noted that Tyus sat right behind the Gopher bench, that Tubby's wife & Tyus' Mom sat together & talked at length & that Tyus & family walked over to the tunnel & high fived the Gopher players as they took the floor.
 

I love Vaughn & Tyus but...

THE SCOUT! said:
foolish to worry about student chants... Really think players seriously factor in student section chants... Doogie is being dorky
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Please. We don't need to worry about chanting for recruits during the game or about giving them equal 'chant' time. That's what is foolish, Doog.
 

Boy, Doogie's last few tweets regarding Gopher teams have been real gems. Can't wait to read what insights he has next.
 



When I worked for the KU SID office I was always very impressed with how their basketball recruiting staff coordinated with the student section. The students shouldn't be expected to follow recruiting closely enough to know who some of the guys were there today. What KU does is very organized, simple and extremely effective. Every program has staff that is responsible for many recruiting functions (beyond the assistants) and at KU they recruit volunteer student recruiting coordinators that make signs for the students at the games, educate the fan base, etc. on who is visiting. Today was a perfect example of where KU's recruiting organization would have shined. When they have a group of big time recruits in, they do a chant like our students did today and start with a "We Want Tyus" chant, then as soon as the recruit acknowledges the students, they move right to the next kid and do a "We Want Vaughn" chant and then once he acknowledges they move right to the next kid and so on.

The KU recruiting volunteers have recruit profiles handed out to each student in the section with their recruiting rankings, pictures (so the students know who is who), whether the Gophers offered, and who else has offered. Then once they do the "We Want XYZ" chant the students will later do a "Hey Tyus, Duke Sucks" chant (usually just picking the top team we're battling for the kid)..."Hey Vaung, Kentucky Sucks" - "Hey Reid, Stanford Sucks" and so on.

The recruiting volunteers also do the leg-work and create massive "We Want XYZ" signs that the students will hold up during different time-outs. And then finally the recruiting coordinators will make life-size jerseys with a recruits last name on it and have student section leaders walk by the recruits holding these jerseys.

It's a well oiled machine. All of the work is done for the student section and handed to them on a silver platter. It's not rocket science and it doesn't make or break a kid's decision, but it does show you what we're up against in recruiting. We don't have the facilities, we don't have the prestigious name like many of the schools we'll be going up against for the guys at The Barn today, so putting a program together like KU has doesn't hurt. If nothing else, it at least would put us on a level playing field when Tyus/Vaughn/Illikainen/Ellenson (all being recruited by KU) make their visits to Lawrence.

That being said, the best recruiting tactic we could have had today was our win and the rocking crowd. The rest is secondary to that.

Go Gophers!!
 


BleedGopher said:
When I worked for the KU SID office I was always very impressed with how their basketball recruiting staff coordinated with the student section. The students shouldn't be expected to follow recruiting closely enough to know who some of the guys were there today. What KU does is very organized, simple and extremely effective. Every program has staff that is responsible for many recruiting functions (beyond the assistants) and at KU they recruit volunteer student recruiting coordinators that make signs for the students at the games, educate the fan base, etc. on who is visiting. Today was a perfect example of where KU's recruiting organization would have shined. When they have a group of big time recruits in, they do a chant like our students did today and start with a "We Want Tyus" chant, then as soon as the recruit acknowledges the students, they move right to the next kid and do a "We Want Vaughn" chant and then once he acknowledges they move right to the next kid and so on.

The KU recruiting volunteers have recruit profiles handed out to each student in the section with their recruiting rankings, pictures (so the students know who is who), whether the Gophers offered, and who else has offered. Then once they do the "We Want XYZ" chant the students will later do a "Hey Tyus, Duke Sucks" chant (usually just picking the top team we're battling for the kid)..."Hey Vaung, Kentucky Sucks" - "Hey Reid, Stanford Sucks" and so on.

The recruiting volunteers also do the leg-work and create massive "We Want XYZ" signs that the students will hold up during different time-outs. And then finally the recruiting coordinators will make life-size jerseys with a recruits last name on it and have student section leaders walk by the recruits holding these jerseys.

It's a well oiled machine. All of the work is done for the student section and handed to them on a silver platter. It's not rocket science and it doesn't make or break a kid's decision, but it does show you what we're up against in recruiting. We don't have the facilities, we don't have the prestigious name like many of the schools we'll be going up against for the guys at The Barn today, so putting a program together like KU has doesn't hurt. If nothing else, it at least would put us on a level playing field when Tyus/Vaughn/Illikainen/Ellenson (all being recruited by KU) make their visits to Lawrence.

That being said, the best recruiting tactic we could have had today was our win and the rocking crowd. The rest is secondary to that.

Go Gophers!!
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Simple solution is for Bleed et al to contact the Athletic Dept. to make sure next time the student section has signs and chants. Sound like a GREAT IDEA!!!!
 


Guys, darren is just trolling the barnyard, like all good journalists do. Surely we should give him more attention.
 



From the Barn said:
Guys, darren is just trolling the barnyard, like all good journalists do. Surely we should give him more attention.
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I was thinking the opposite...instead of rewarding the petulant child with his own thread we should ignore him. Don't reward idiocy and trolling by anyone...even a paid troll!
 


EG#9 said:
The Gophers finally get a good win, the crowd is great, and Doogie needs to be critical of the lack of a chant for a recruit? I hope that a we want Vaughn chant happened, but if it didn't the student section deserves a break. That was a great crowd for a team/program that's been 12-24 over the past two years with a lot of disappointing home performances.

I usually think the negative media thing is overplayed as the Twin Cities media should be negative about Gopher Football/Basketball when the teams perform poorly which they have for a LONG time. That said, Doogie (or anyone else) deserves criticism for fishing for a negative when things are finally going the right way.
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+1 No reason to go negative yesterday
 

Vaughn chant...

We missed Travis and Vaughn yesterday... they are equally important recruits in my opinion
 

It was just a little too quiet I think with the rest of the Barn cheering. The student section should make him a sign next time (if they didn't this time) with a louder/better timed chant.
 

He'll get his attention. Too much is being put in to this. I don't think these kids are so self centered that they need a chant to feel wanted. They'll all be idols here if they come and they know that.
 



they should make signs and bow before the recruits, this might give them the edge vs the Jayhawks
 

BleedGopher said:
When I worked for the KU SID office I was always very impressed with how their basketball recruiting staff coordinated with the student section. The students shouldn't be expected to follow recruiting closely enough to know who some of the guys were there today. What KU does is very organized, simple and extremely effective. Every program has staff that is responsible for many recruiting functions (beyond the assistants) and at KU they recruit volunteer student recruiting coordinators that make signs for the students at the games, educate the fan base, etc. on who is visiting. Today was a perfect example of where KU's recruiting organization would have shined. When they have a group of big time recruits in, they do a chant like our students did today and start with a "We Want Tyus" chant, then as soon as the recruit acknowledges the students, they move right to the next kid and do a "We Want Vaughn" chant and then once he acknowledges they move right to the next kid and so on.

The KU recruiting volunteers have recruit profiles handed out to each student in the section with their recruiting rankings, pictures (so the students know who is who), whether the Gophers offered, and who else has offered. Then once they do the "We Want XYZ" chant the students will later do a "Hey Tyus, Duke Sucks" chant (usually just picking the top team we're battling for the kid)..."Hey Vaung, Kentucky Sucks" - "Hey Reid, Stanford Sucks" and so on.

The recruiting volunteers also do the leg-work and create massive "We Want XYZ" signs that the students will hold up during different time-outs. And then finally the recruiting coordinators will make life-size jerseys with a recruits last name on it and have student section leaders walk by the recruits holding these jerseys.

It's a well oiled machine. All of the work is done for the student section and handed to them on a silver platter. It's not rocket science and it doesn't make or break a kid's decision, but it does show you what we're up against in recruiting. We don't have the facilities, we don't have the prestigious name like many of the schools we'll be going up against for the guys at The Barn today, so putting a program together like KU has doesn't hurt. If nothing else, it at least would put us on a level playing field when Tyus/Vaughn/Illikainen/Ellenson (all being recruited by KU) make their visits to Lawrence.

That being said, the best recruiting tactic we could have had today was our win and the rocking crowd. The rest is secondary to that.

Go Gophers!!
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I couldn't agree more. We used to get word on which recruits would be at what games (not from Monson, of course, as he couldn't comment on recruits ;), and there would be tons of signs, chants, etc. in the Barnyard. It's really not that tough. I don't know if they still hand out flyers before the game, but we did ,NateDawg would do a great job digging up dirt on opposing players, and we'd get the recruit info on there. Then you spend about $25 investing in posters and markers that people can make in the foyer area, or while waiting for the game to start. It's a minimal effort and cost, but it does make a difference. Just like winning, a coach, facilties, etc., they all play into a decision...and let's be honest, these are 17 year old kids, who wouldn't want to feel like an entire student body wanted them?

I also agree with Doogie on this - show all those kids the love. It's not that tough to do.
 

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