Dan McCarney...

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The domestic stuff, no matter how long ago, is disturbing and the U Admin. is extremely risk-averse. I would think that would remove him as a candidate. Further, I can't get very excited about him. His resume + his age just doesn't scream Capital One Bowl, much less Rose Bowl.

About the only argument for him I can buy is if they want a guy to come here for a couple of years, clean up Brew's mess, and then let the new AD/President make a longer-term hire. This isn't really ideal, but is far more tolerable then keeping Brew another 1-2 years for the same purpose.
 

Bengals said:
Absolutely Not!:mad:

Iowa pounded him every year! Would be a terrible idea! We have to do better! This would be a lazy hire!
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Huh?! How about some facts. Ferentz had a losing record against DMac and he won 5 straight against Iowa a one point.

SPC
 

MGGopher said:
I've met the guy on a couple occasions and can tell you that he truly IS a really quality guy. That said, is this the kind of coach we want to bring in? A total re-tread who hasn't gotten another head job since being sacked at Iowa State of all places? What he did at ISU was truly impressive. I had a good friend who played there, and he raved about the experience and about McCarney in particular. The program was a joke when McC took over and, much like Mason did here, McC built it up and consistently fielded competitive teams. That said, he never got them "over the hump" so to speak. IMO, this hire would reek of Mason 2.0...the similarities are eerie.
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I have pointed out the similarities in the past, between not just Mas and Mac. It started before that with Wacker and Walden. Both programs have been mirroring each other for a while. Heck, you could argue that our Monson was McDermott in MBB. Anyway, while Mas and Mac are very different coaches, the results were the same and from that stand point: I agree it would be like Mason 2.0. The current difference is the Chizik era (TX connection) ended after two years, while the Brewster (TX connection) is still going on...for now. I am pleased with Coach Rhoads and think the Gophers would benefit from a "local guy" at the helm...that and if the Vikings moved to L.A....
 

dpodoll68 said:
Do you find it coincidental that the schools you mentioned are in non-BCS conferences?

Look, turning around Wyoming, Colorado St., Boise St., Fresno St., Toledo, etc. is commendable and will most likely earn the coach a promotion. But to equate those to turning around something like Iowa St., Baylor, Duke, Indiana, Washington St. is silly. They're not even remotely the same thing for a lot of reasons, the big/obvious one being the strength of schedule.

I'm not even advocating for the hire of Dan McCarney. Not even a little bit. But to marginalize what he achieved at Iowa St. is erroneous and doing the man a great disservice.
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Its a great point. The 2000 squad may have been his best, with 9 wins and would have had 10 with a 4th non-conference; like today's scheduling. However, the 2005 team was the best defense he ever had and I think 4 of those losses came in OT, on the road. The 2002 team may have been the best yet; took Florida State to the wire (Seneca was in!), beat Nebraska, Iowa, Texas Tech; but stumbled down the stetch against other ranked teams in Colorado, Kansas State, Texas and Oklahoma. By the end of the season the team was gassed after running that gauntlet. It's too bad, because it was arguably one of his best, but faced something like 8 Top 25 teams and half were Top 10. Strength of schedule matters.
 

tjgopher said:
?????

McCarney was 6-6 against Iowa and was a nemesis to them. He won five straight against them at one point when he was rebuilding ISU. There would be many a Hawkeye fans nervous if McCarney were hired here.
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And I would be one of them.
 


Letsgogophers said:
Posting something from years ago is garbage. That issue was resolved years ago between he and his wife, he gave up alcohol and is looked at with the highest regards by everyone in football. He was good enough for Florida (may have become HC is Meyer retired)
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If he's hired, this won't be the last you hear of it, the media will be all over it.
 

McCarney is a good coach, and (as mentioned) his hiring causes many Hawk fans consternation.
 

The worst thing ISU and Jamie Pollard did was fire Dan McCarney. He is intense and did many good things for ISU. IMO he should have been hired before Brewster. If we hire him, we may just win a trophy game [something Brewster has never done] vs. IA. He had the Hawks number.
 

StPaulCyclone said:
Huh?! How about some facts. Ferentz had a losing record against DMac and he won 5 straight against Iowa a one point.

SPC
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To be fair, McCarney won 4 straight against Ferentz. Hayden Fry lost to McCarney and ISU in 1998 during Fry's last season. McCarney deserves credit for getting ISU back into the rivalry with Iowa. From 1983-1997 Fry beat ISU ever year. McCarney, despite a poor overall record, emphasized games against big rivals (Iowa and Nebraska) and had ISU in position to go to the Big XII championship game in 2004 and 2005 but came just short. He won 2 of the 3 bowl games in the history of the Cyclone program and was invited to 5 of the 10 bowl games the program has ever been in. I am sometimes amazed that he was fired. However, Paul Rhoads seems to be a the right guy for ISU and I honestly cheer for him to be successful every week except for when they play the Hawks.
 



Bengals said:
Absolutely Not!:mad:

Iowa pounded him every year! Would be a terrible idea! We have to do better! This would be a lazy hire!
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Iowa pounded him every year? Are you sure about that? He coached at Iowa State for 11 years and went 6-5 against Iowa, including winning 5 games in a row at one point (three of which were in Iowa City). I don't believe we will find that in recent Gophers history.

When he got to Iowa State, it was a wasteland for coaches. Walden had run the program into the ground as he was not getting the support he needed from the administration. McCarney struggled early, but then went on a string where Iowa State won 7 or more games 5 of 6 years. At a school with that history that plays in the Big 12 and includes a game against Iowa in the nonconference schedule every year, that was pretty impressive.

Not saying he is the right guy if Brewster doesn't make it, but this man is well respected in coaching circles for what he did in Ames.
 

TWeber said:
He coached at Iowa State for 11 years and went 6-5 against Iowa, including winning 5 games in a row at one point (three of which were in Iowa City). I don't believe we will find that in recent Gophers history.
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Your point still stands, but for accuracy's sake, McCarney coached at ISU for 12 years and was 6-6 vs. Iowa.
 

With her estranged husband having signed a contract worth as much as $300,000 a year, the scenes from their marriage that Brenda had recounted to detectives a year earlier suddenly hadn't happened. No, there had never been that first beating just before the July 1986 marriage. Nor had there been one, as she had previously reported, five days after the birth of the first of their three children, Jillian, in '87, when Dan slapped her face as she held the baby. Nor had there been an incident that Brenda said had occurred on Super Bowl Sunday in '93, when she suffered a bruised cheek and black eye after confronting her husband about an affair. The Iowa State administration says it will honor rather than eat Dan's five-year deal—and Brenda will collect the $3,600-a-month support payments she was granted soon after Dan got the job with the Cyclones.
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OK, off-topic here, but what kind of a divorce settlement is that? He's making $300K per year and she gets $43.2K? Geesh...
 

Th only reason why this guy is always brought up for the job is because of Minnesota's proximity to Iowa and the two program's recent similarity in quality of play. He didn't get the job in 07 and he shouldn't get it now.
 



PapaHawk21 said:
To be fair, McCarney won 4 straight against Ferentz. Hayden Fry lost to McCarney and ISU in 1998 during Fry's last season. McCarney deserves credit for getting ISU back into the rivalry with Iowa. From 1983-1997 Fry beat ISU ever year. McCarney, despite a poor overall record, emphasized games against big rivals (Iowa and Nebraska) and had ISU in position to go to the Big XII championship game in 2004 and 2005 but came just short. He won 2 of the 3 bowl games in the history of the Cyclone program and was invited to 5 of the 10 bowl games the program has ever been in. I am sometimes amazed that he was fired. However, Paul Rhoads seems to be a the right guy for ISU and I honestly cheer for him to be successful every week except for when they play the Hawks.
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How wasn't I fair? We were talking about McCarney. Again, Ferentz had a losing record against Mac and Mac had 5 straight wins against *Iowa* at one point. What I wrote was accurate and fair.

True...the first of those five was against Fry, with the following four against Ferentz; but that doesn't change the fact that what I originally wrote was correct. If we are going to elaborate, Mac went on to win this game again in 2005. Chizik kept the annual game competitive and split with Ferentz (1-1). Rhoads' uncompetitive 0-2 has allowed Ferentz's (very unFry-like) record against ISU to get to .500.
 

Ask Beal - he would know playing at Florida with McCarney

ask a player who has been on defense at florida for 2 years.
 

As just about any former player, they love the guy. McCarney vs. Brewster? Not close.
 

How about we find a quality coach and human being? Surely we don't have to settle for one or the other.
 

With his wife abuse issues, he reveals himself to be a man of extremely low character and self esteem. Just say NO! We can, and must, do better. I'd far prefer we keep Brewster than sell our soul in a hire like this.
 

StPaulCyclone said:
How wasn't I fair? We were talking about McCarney. Again, Ferentz had a losing record against Mac and Mac had 5 straight wins against *Iowa* at one point. What I wrote was accurate and fair.

True...the first of those five was against Fry, with the following four against Ferentz; but that doesn't change the fact that what I originally wrote was correct. If we are going to elaborate, Mac went on to win this game again in 2005. Chizik kept the annual game competitive and split with Ferentz (1-1). Rhoads' uncompetitive 0-2 has allowed Ferentz's (very unFry-like) record against ISU to get to .500.
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I was just trying to point out that McCarney won 4 in a row against Ferentz not 5 and yes the essence of you comment was absolutely correct. Ferentz has now won 6 of 8 against the Cyclones (3 in a row) and I see the trend continuing to favor the Hawkeyes. I give Coach McCarney all the credit for renewing the competitive nature of this rivalry and recognize his achievements not only at ISU but as an assistant under Hayden Fry from 1978-1989.
 

Khaliq said:
After how many years does beating one's wife become acceptable? 5 years? 10?

What's the moral statute of limitations where we can set it aside and say well sure it happened 30 times, but can this man help our football program?
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A few possibilities here:
1. Maybe it was unintentional.
2. Maybe it was a misunderstanding. Everyone forgets their "safe word" from time to time.
3. Maybe it was self defense.
I am guessing she is pretty high maintenance.
 

kellyleeks said:
I am guessing she is pretty high maintenance.
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Based on what? If she can live on $43,200 a year while he makes $300K, I'd say she's extremely low maintenance (or just damn glad to get out of that marriage.)
 

First off, congrats Gophers if the news that Brewster is going to be canned is true. You guys deserve better than that idiot.

Dan inherited a terrible situation at ISU. The situation at Minnesota right now is 10000x better. I promise you that. Dan is a great guy and can get his teams to run threw walls for him. U of M could do much worse but I completely understand not wanting a former HC.

Best of luck in your upcoming search.
 


You know who has impeccable character? Jim Nendel! He's the head coach of the 6 time defending Maple Bowl Champion Porvoo Butchers of the Vaahteraliiga- Finnish Premier League.

He's been coaching with great success in Finland for a number of years. He's an American with coaching experience here in the states, so it's not like there would be a language barrier, if that is what you have misgiving about. It's not like he's coaching in Canada... in Finland they play American football by American rules. The only difference is that all the players take Sauna at halftime and then jump into a lake. Halftime can take upwards of 90 minutes.


:cool02::cool02:
 

Sir Tipsy McStagger said:
You know who has impeccable character? Jim Nendel! He's the head coach of the 6 time defending Maple Bowl Champion Porvoo Butchers of the Vaahteraliiga- Finnish Premier League.

He's been coaching with great success in Finland for a number of years. He's an American with coaching experience here in the states, so it's not like there would be a language barrier, if that is what you have misgiving about. It's not like he's coaching in Canada... in Finland they play American football by American rules. The only difference is that all the players take Sauna at halftime and then jump into a lake. Halftime can take upwards of 90 minutes.


:cool02::cool02:
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Sounds interesting. Would you please provide a link? Thanks.
 


JoeDirt said:
sorry, but those girls are 4's, maybe 3 1/2's. Because of this picture I say no to McCarney.
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I'm with you there, Joe Dirt. Not pretty, and fat to boot.

They'd be 8s in West Lafayette, so I'd better watch what I say...
 


1. McCarney is a great coach. Minnesota would hit it out of the park with hiring him. Some of you are idiots.

- The man is a great recruiter. Have any of you been to Ames, IA? Its possibly the worst college town of any in the BCS. Its easy to talk about guys like Tiller at Wyomng where he gets to build a program in a fair competitive environment. McCarney got ISU respectful in a conference with Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, KState, and Colorado of the 90s andd early 2000'

2. Unlike Brewster, McCarney is a great recruiter who can coach and forms great gameplans
3. Unlike Mason, McCarney can motivate a team to win a game that matters. Mason had 99 PSU and that was it.
4. Hes a great salesman. He does great job of selling a program without looking like Brewster wh continually had to cut corners, lie, and milead.
5. McCarney didnt interviewforte Florida asst coaching job. Urban Meyer offered him it. He is one of the great defensive minds in cfb. If Norm Parker has to retire, he is my #1 choice for the new Iowa DC.

McCarney will be the first t admit the wrongs he did in his first marriage. He gave up Alcohol and changed it around. A wife beater will always have that following him but hes not lik that anymore. You dont forget but you cant give the guy any due for fixinghis flaws? He was a bad guy. He currently is a good guy.Im sure many of you have never had to fix problems andbecome better people.

Minnesota would be lucky to be able to get McCarney. He is avery good football coach.
 


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