Claeys could go 0-4 and still keep his job.
8-4 coupled with 13 out of 14 in recruiting for next year and a change my be necessary.
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Fire a coach that goes 8-4 in his first full season at a program like Minnesota? I bet other good coaches would be breaking down the door wanting this job.
Fire a coach that goes 8-4 in his first full season at a program like Minnesota? I bet other good coaches would be breaking down the door wanting this job.
8-4 coupled with 13 out of 14 in recruiting for next year and a change my be necessary.
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That's when the AD says, we need better recruiting, we have new facilities coming on board and we need a more dynamic coach to build on this foundation.
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You honestly think recruiting rankings should be used in the decision process? Think carefully before answering.
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Coaches aren't going to turn down this job because we only gave the interim coach 1.5 seasons.
This is a big ten job. This is a top 50 job in the country.
Coaches might turn this job down due to low salary or due to waiting for a better job.
<b>Absolutely. </b>
Yep. And next year he will need 6 regular season wins with the difficult schedule and new QB.
The Kill/Claeys situation reminds me a lot of Schiano/Flood at Rutgers.
Schiano built a solid foundation at Rutgers and they promoted Flood from within. Flood was 9-4 his first season, but you never got the feeling he was going to be a good coach. The program trended downward the following years and he was fired after year 4.
A decision will have to be made one way or the other after this season. 8 regular season wins is the point where I'm not sure what Coyle will do. If they lose the last 3, I think he'll be gone before the bowl game. A 4-5 B1G record with the softest schedule you can have is not worthy of an extension.
If he is going to get fired, he better be gone before the bowl game regardless, especially if he is 8-4. You better have someone good in mind and almost locked up.
Claeys could go 0-4 and still keep his job.
The Kill/Claeys situation reminds me a lot of Schiano/Flood at Rutgers.
Schiano built a solid foundation at Rutgers and they promoted Flood from within. Flood was 9-4 his first season, but you never got the feeling he was going to be a good coach. The program trended downward the following years and he was fired after year 4.
A decision will have to be made one way or the other after this season. 8 regular season wins is the point where I'm not sure what Coyle will do. If they lose the last 3, I think he'll be gone before the bowl game. A 4-5 B1G record with the softest schedule you can have is not worthy of an extension.
Please name one awe-inspiring coach that would take the job, is a great X/O guy, is a great recruiter, and thinks that being fired after going 8-4 after his first year is an alluring prospect.
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Schiano was at Rutgers four years before Flood was added to the staff and wasn't an integral member of Schiano's foundation-building. Claeys was with Kill for twenty years and most definitely was an integral member.
Sorry, I probably didn't make it clear. I think the discussion of firing Claeys if he goes 8-4 is the single dumbest thing ever discussed on Gopherhole. I have been posting here a long time. I am not one of those posters who hates speculation or rips on anyone who brings up recruiting rankings, but the discussion of firing an 8-4 Tracy Claeys is pure lunacy.
That said, IF the U was choosing to fire him at 8-4, they BETTER have an amazing coach sitting there begging to take the job. I was critiquing his idea that at 7-5, you fire him immediately, but at 8-4. . .maybe you wait out the bowl game. It was an atrocious take.
Michigan loses a ton of talent especially if Peppers declares for the draft. They may be tougher than PSU this year, when we played them, but no where near this years team. MSU is an enigma they may or may not be better than Rutgers next year. We'll have a new quarterback next year that has been developed in the new system we only lose one offensive lineman there is every reason to believe that the offense will be better next year. On defense we seem to have players to replace what we lose so we should be alright there and will be in the second year of the defensive changes so overall we just may be better there.@Michigan is probably tougher than @Penn State, and Michigan State could be good again next year, who knows. If they're still terrible then it's probably close to equal, though @Oregon State likely isn't a guaranteed win. So if nothing else, the 2017 schedule is probably tougher than 2016.
Claeys isn't the interim coach.
Yes he won't be fired for going 8-4. Lose out in horrific fashion and it's really hard to say. My bet is we take one or two of Nebby and NW. I don't want this staff to go. I want them to get a little better.
Definitely agree with all this.If not fired an extension has to be given. Has he earned it? If you want you're coach under contract for five years, is Claeys the guy?
It's a really tough call if we finish 8-4.
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