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Jerry Burns is available. The pressers would be good at least.
 


PJ Fleck anyone? He smells a bit too much like a cross between Brewster and Pitino, but he's also had some measurable HC success and would be a realistic candidate. The boat rowing would get old fast but he would take some chances, fire guys up, revamp the staid gameday experience, and get after it hard in recruiting.

I'm not ready to give up on Claeys. But something about him gives me the "solid career coordinator" vibe and fails to inspire the program.
 

fmlizard said:
PJ Fleck anyone? He smells a bit too much like a cross between Brewster and Pitino, but he's also had some measurable HC success and would be a realistic candidate. The boat rowing would get old fast but he would take some chances, fire guys up, revamp the staid gameday experience, and get after it hard in recruiting.

I'm not ready to give up on Claeys. But something about him gives me the "solid career coordinator" vibe and fails to inspire the program.
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PJ outright says he's not an Xs and Os guy, but you don't have to be to be successful if you can recruit and get good coordinators.... he's more of a gamble than usual IMO.

Also PJ isn't exactly unknown, he may already have his sights set higher than MN.
 

csom_1991 said:
I would go after a guy that has a winning track record and proven record of coaching up players with lesser talent to beat higher rated teams. With that said - I would go after Craig Bohl. He has cut his teeth in the FBS with Wyoming - now it is time to give him a shot at a program with actual funding and recruiting potential. The guy has been in the 'big game' before and is a proven winner.
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His record as an FBS coach is 10-20. The three years before he got there Wyoming was 17-20. I don't think he's proven anything in FBS yet.

Besides, look what happened with the last former NDSU head coach we hired... :)
 


John Galt said:
The Dungy jokes aren't remotely funny. Once and for all, please stop.
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Correct. Dungy will not coach ever again. He is done coaching even for huge money. If by some weird circumstance he would even stand on a football field, it would be in the pro ranks.
 

Lakeville Goldy said:
His record as an FBS coach is 10-20. The three years before he got there Wyoming was 17-20. I don't think he's proven anything in FBS yet.

Besides, look what happened with the last former NDSU head coach we hired... :)
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You're right, Bohl. still has more to prove. But Wyoming was 9-15 the two years before Bohl got there; if you remove the one winning season the Cowboys have had since 2009 from your three-year window you'll see the rebuild was a little more serious.

Wyoming was not good in Bohl's first two years, but they're 4-2 (2-0) so far this year, including a 38-17 win AT Colorado State -- a bit of an easier time against them than we had at home.

Bohl would make a lot of sense here.
 

Hates Monikers said:
You're right, Bohl. still has more to prove. But Wyoming was 9-15 the two years before Bohl got there; if you remove the one winning season the Cowboys have had since 2009 from your three-year window you'll see the rebuild was a little more serious.

Wyoming was not good in Bohl's first two years, but they're 4-2 (2-0) so far this year, including a 38-17 win AT Colorado State -- a bit of an easier time against them than we had at home.

Bohl would make a lot of sense here.
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If you were looking for a Jerry Kill like hire. Which hopefully they're not if a change is made.
 

scools12 said:
If you were looking for a Jerry Kill like hire. Which hopefully they're not if a change is made.
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I see what you're saying, and I don't disagree. But some of it comes down to who you think we can attract. I think the next coach (any time we're hiring a coach) will be someone with a background like Bohl or Kill ... or a Power 5 coordinator. They're all going to be rolls of the dice. Miles isn't coming here.
 



Hates Monikers said:
I see what you're saying, and I don't disagree. But some of it comes down to who you think we can attract. I think the next coach (any time we're hiring a coach) will be someone with a background like Bohl or Kill ... or a Power 5 coordinator. They're all going to be rolls of the dice. Miles isn't coming here.
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We shouldn't discount anyone looking. We should call everyone. Our problem is the administration won't want to pay 4 or 5 million per year to a coach who could actually be successful. Instead, we'll get some crappy guy from Georgia Northern Gulf Coast and be told this is the answer...
 


Bohl is too old, as is Les Miles (62). Neither is a good fit for reasons beyond their ages. Miles in particular is a horrible fit, since he will not be able to get the same level of recruits to Minnesota and many of the LSU recruits would never be admitted to Minnesota (SEC standards are lower) The current NDSU coach might have shot at being a solid D1 coach, since he is still young and knows what he is doing.

PJ Fleck will get a good offer somewhere after this year, and I still think the soon the be former Texas coach is a good coach. Claeys might be better than both. We probably should have hired Paul Cryst in 2011, or brought back Glen.
 

"His record as an FBS coach is 10-20. The three years before he got there Wyoming was 17-20. I don't think he's proven anything in FBS yet."

He is year 3 of his rebuilding project at Wyoming and this year they are 4-2 with more impressive wins than Minnesota. I think he has a proven track record of coaching up talent. He is not a 'wacky' scheme guy that can win for a few years until the league catches on or someone that is going to try to win via out-recruiting other schools - neither of those strategies work long term which is why I would give him the shot. As to those that compare him to Kill - there are some similarities but I am much more impressed with Bohl's record and accomplishments. Another year getting Wyoming to a higher level and he will jump to bigger program - I just hope it is the Gophers because I think 7-8 wins is the max TC will ever deliver - even with the favorable schedule this year gifted us.
 



csom_1991 said:
"His record as an FBS coach is 10-20. The three years before he got there Wyoming was 17-20. I don't think he's proven anything in FBS yet."

He is year 3 of his rebuilding project at Wyoming and this year they are 4-2 with more impressive wins than Minnesota. I think he has a proven track record of coaching up talent. He is not a 'wacky' scheme guy that can win for a few years until the league catches on or someone that is going to try to win via out-recruiting other schools - neither of those strategies work long term which is why I would give him the shot. As to those that compare him to Kill - there are some similarities but I am much more impressed with Bohl's record and accomplishments. Another year getting Wyoming to a higher level and he will jump to bigger program - I just hope it is the Gophers because I think 7-8 wins is the max TC will ever deliver - even with the favorable schedule this year gifted us.
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I'd rather grab Bohl disciple Gus Bradley.
 



"I'd rather have someone with recent power 5 experience."

So someone that was recently fired (no HC from a power 5 is jumping ship to come here) or a coordinator/position coach without HC experience. No thanks on the coordinator/position coach - Brewster forever wrecked that fantasy for me.
 

csom_1991 said:
"I'd rather have someone with recent power 5 experience."

So someone that was recently fired (no HC from a power 5 is jumping ship to come here) or a coordinator/position coach without HC experience. No thanks on the coordinator/position coach - Brewster forever wrecked that fantasy for me.
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Problem is Brewster was a TE coach.... that's a recipe for disaster.

Wide receiver coaches is where it is at, Clemson....
 

csom_1991 said:
"I'd rather have someone with recent power 5 experience."

So someone that was recently fired (no HC from a power 5 is jumping ship to come here) or a coordinator/position coach without HC experience. No thanks on the coordinator/position coach - Brewster forever wrecked that fantasy for me.
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Brewster was out of college and in the NFL for 5 years before he took the Gophers job. If they go the college coordinator route, I'd hope it would be one coaching a good power 5 school this year.
 


dpodoll68 said:
Our current head coach (the one you hate) has plenty of recent power 5 experience. That doesn't stop you from hating him.
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yes, but his experience that last several years has been at a very mediocre program
 


dpodoll68 said:
Our current head coach (the one you hate) has plenty of recent power 5 experience. That doesn't stop you from hating him.
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I don't hate Claeys. I just think he's a lifelong coordinator and not a head coach.


dpodoll68 said:
I didn't see anything in his post about the quality of program.
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I did say from a good power 5 school. If you want me to be more specific, I will say a helmet school because Maryland and Rutgers were able to pry top assistants from helmet schools.
However, I would still prefer someone with previous head coaching experience.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
I don't hate Claeys. I just think he's a lifelong coordinator and not a head coach.




I did say from a good power 5 school. If you want me to be more specific, I will say a helmet school because Maryland and Rutgers were able to pry top assistants from helmet schools.
However, I would still prefer someone with previous head coaching experience.
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I'd take any of these fired coaches.
They'd all be better.

Almost anyone is better. Like, take any of the names you can think of any put those names in a hat. Draw two. Look at the first one. If you don't like it, toss and and take the second name, and it will be better than Claeys.
 

Would Western Michigan's PJ Fleck be out of reach, or is he kind of the latest Flavor of the Month? Not real big on him, but he seems like he's the hot rock right now, sorta' like James Franklin was at Vandy.
 

SelectionSunday said:
Would Western Michigan's PJ Fleck be out of reach, or is he kind of the latest Flavor of the Month? Not real big on him, but he seems like he's the hot rock right now, sorta' like James Franklin was at Vandy.
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I'd love him as our head coach, but my guess is he gets a much bigger/better job than the U. Of course, we could hire his recruiting coordinator as head coach, and he'd be better than Claeys - just look at the post above yours.
 

Sparlimb said:
Our problem is the administration won't want to pay 4 or 5 million per year to a coach who could actually be successful.
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You've assessed that in the 4-5 months the administration has been in place? Impressive.
 

Face The Facts said:
I'd take any of these fired coaches.
They'd all be better.

Almost anyone is better. Like, take any of the names you can think of any put those names in a hat. Draw two. Look at the first one. If you don't like it, toss and and take the second name, and it will be better than Claeys.
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You also stated that a QB with a career completion percentage of 51.4% and more INT than TD was a better passer than Leidner.
 

SelectionSunday said:
Would Western Michigan's PJ Fleck be out of reach, or is he kind of the latest Flavor of the Month? Not real big on him, but he seems like he's the hot rock right now, sorta' like James Franklin was at Vandy.
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I'd be interested in any of the up and coming smaller school guys, who have worked under successful college coaches. Fleck, Willie Taggart, or Jeff Brohm, but they'll have options.

You could say the same thing about Dino Babers last year and Coyle was able to lure him to Syracuse. Coyle was also interested in Fleck last year, but Fleck declined.
 

Maximus said:
You've assessed that in the 4-5 months the administration has been in place? Impressive.
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I trust the AD is smart enough to save about $1 million and just pay above $3M to get a coach in the top 30 paid coaches. No need to pay top 10.


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