Michigan? Look, there is something wrong with Michigan if an ex-player, the highly-touted NFL coach, comes back to coach the team and can't succeed at a higher level than they are currently at. I could see Fleck going somewhere where the weather is great at an enormous salary bump. Other than that, if the U treats him as good as they are already treating him, what more could a guy really want?
The thing about those who get reputations as school-jumpers works adversely as well, from the factor of trust. Better not to get that reputation.
I dare say that few Gopher football fans would frown too strongly at an 8-win season, even there would be some disappointment. But on that subject, we do know when to revere our own. Clem was revered back in the day. He had many seasons that one might deem "disappointing". That never stopped the reverence. If PJ has even one or two more good seasons here, I'd say he could reach that level of long-term, undying respect.
That just makes me want to puke. No wonder kids can't afford school! If diversity (or lack thereof) is that bad then just set a number of students and have a couple of people work with admissions to pick the best qualified candidates. It's not that hard.
Here's the deal. It is a black eye. But fair is fair, and if every other P5 school gets away with shenanigans like that, sometimes less, sometimes worse, and they don't get penalized, that's where we Gopher fans get pissed off. We can accept the punishment for punishable deeds. We cannot accept that others are not treated the same.
So we were treated unfairly?
We have no control over how others are treated. Will you not punish our criminals because California does not punish theirs? How about your children? Your employees who steal? Etc. Our coach and player cheated, thus, we cheated as a program. End of story.
Treated by the rules, yes. Have those rules been enforced with equal vigor against all schools? Probably not.
Good grief. Get the paper bag out before you hyperventilate. Literally zero chance of that happening. He hit a bunch of incentives in addition to the $1M raise, so he's doing fine.
I don’t really have a lot of sympathy for us tho because of that. We got what we deserved. Whether others did or not is a different topic completely, IMO.
I think I said that in my post.
Whatever.
Every SEC fanbase you say.
I see. Thanks for the humor.
And that thinks every SEC team's fanbase wants to remove their coach and bring PJ in. You are that guy too.
Compared to other situations that have received much less or nothing (UNC in particular), then yes. Punishments for misdeeds should be scaled appropriately. For example,, for what the Gophers got, UNC’s sports programs should have been shut down. Instead, they got zilch.
Sure - but was the problem that we got too much or that UNC didn't get enough? This whole debate sounds a bit like my 14-year old upset she was punished more than her friends were.
So this is what Fleck did before leaving WMU?
The problem, as I said earlier, is that others get nothing. If they get nothing, then it’s pretty hard to argue that the Gophers deserved the punishment they got. If the Gophers’ punishment was to set an example, that wasn’t the case. instead it ended up being “only them”.
? Are we to believe that situation and this one are anything alike?