Buffs - Coach Prime

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MNVCGUY said:
Just shocking that Prime seems desperate to get out of Colorado. Thought for sure he would stay there for life. :)
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Will Colorado be better off for it??? Will be curious to see.
 




Word said:
Will Colorado be better off for it??? Will be curious to see.
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Prime overhauled their entire roster two times over with mercenaries, without him as the head coach the Buffs' roster will be absolutely decimated in the spring transfer window if he does choose to leave. I suspect there are very few players on that team who give a damn about the program. It'll take a while for them to get back on their feet, not that they were in any regard before he showed up.
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
Do it Jerry

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Will Colorado be better off for it??? Will be curious to see.
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Nope. Roster will be decimated by transfers and the new coach will have to start over from scratch.

I mean I guess maybe long term they benefit if they get a coach who will be around for a while but they sold their souls to the Coach Prime traveling circus, got them a lot of notoriety I guess but in the end I am not surprised one bit that he is working hard to follow his kids and Hunter out of town.
 

WindyCityGopher said:
Then he’ll make Jerry trade away a bunch of picks in order to move up and select his kid, which will set the Cowboys back years. Can’t wait for this debacle. It couldn’t happen to a better owner and franchise.
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Peon has already said that he will "privately" tell some teams that his son(s) will not sign with them, because peon wants his kid(s) to go to the "right" team to highlight their skills.

He'll simply tell every team that drafting his kids would be worthless and just let Shithead slide down to the cowboys pick.
 

so much of this is sooooo predictable. If I could predict this from behind my keyboard as joe-fan, why couldn't the Colorado administration predict they would be getting nothing more than a couple few years of a circus?

Maybe they felt the circus and accompanying media attention was going to be worth it even if everything would have to be readdressed very soon.

They did get a Heisman, a blitz of media attention, and one winning season. So maybe that is considered a step forward after two seasons with primetime.
 

Schnauzer said:
so much of this is sooooo predictable. If I could predict this from behind my keyboard as joe-fan, why couldn't the Colorado administration predict they would be getting nothing more than a couple few years of a circus?
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I think they knew... but if your coach is really good ... you're making the same deal, getting what you can and maybe they leave soon?

That's every hire. Meanwhile you take the money and build some stuff and hope to make the right call next.
 
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Schnauzer said:
so much of this is sooooo predictable. If I could predict this from behind my keyboard as joe-fan, why couldn't the Colorado administration predict they would be getting nothing more than a couple few years of a circus?

Maybe they felt the circus and accompanying media attention was going to be worth it even if everything would have to be readdressed very soon.

They did get a Heisman, a blitz of media attention, and one winning season. So maybe that is considered a step forward after two seasons with primetime.
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They’ve made millions of dollars in advertising from the hire. Applications are up. Apparel sales are up.
It’s not like they weren’t going to pay someone else anyways. So he makes a high salary but he is probably only making 2 million more than their next choice would’ve made

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They entered bowl season ranked for the second time in 20 years

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Colorado had never sold out their home schedule in their history. They did it twice the last two years
 

If I'm the Titans I'm begging the Cowboys to do this.

They get to pick up Dak Prescott and probably some additional assets in a Herschel Walker-type deal to make the Sanders family happy.

Or the darker path ensues where Shedeur refuses to play for any team except the Cowboys, forcing 11 franchises to either pass on him to appease him and Deion, or one to call his bluff.
 

Schnauzer said:
so much of this is sooooo predictable. If I could predict this from behind my keyboard as joe-fan, why couldn't the Colorado administration predict they would be getting nothing more than a couple few years of a circus?

Maybe they felt the circus and accompanying media attention was going to be worth it even if everything would have to be readdressed very soon.

They did get a Heisman, a blitz of media attention, and one winning season. So maybe that is considered a step forward after two seasons with primetime.
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What's predictable are the clowns still clinging to their anti-Sanders bias and refusing to admit he massively raised the Colorado football situation. Enormously.
 

USAF said:
What's predictable are the clowns still clinging to their anti-Sanders bias and refusing to admit he massively raised the Colorado football situation. Enormously.
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Why you going to bat for Dieon like that to the point of insulting other gopher fans?

WTF?
 

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They’ve made millions of dollars in advertising from the hire. Applications are up. Apparel sales are up.
It’s not like they weren’t going to pay someone else anyways. So he makes a high salary but he is probably only making 2 million more than their next choice would’ve made

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They entered bowl season ranked for the second time in 20 years

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Colorado had never sold out their home schedule in their history. They did it twice the last two years
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Yeah, Colorado probably knew it wouldn't last long but they have certainly capitalized financially at least on Sanders time there.

As for on the field.....Colorado's record got a lot better when they moved to the very very very mediocre Big 12 and managed to get a schedule that missed the majority of the top teams in the conference this year. So on the field I don't know that things have changed all that much but have probably improved a little from the dumpster fire they were before he arrived. Trick will be not falling back to that status when he pulls up stakes and leaves town.
 

fmlizard said:
If I'm the Titans I'm begging the Cowboys to do this.

They get to pick up Dak Prescott and probably some additional assets in a Herschel Walker-type deal to make the Sanders family happy.

Or the darker path ensues where Shedeur refuses to play for any team except the Cowboys, forcing 11 franchises to either pass on him to appease him and Deion, or one to call his bluff.
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The dead cap in 2025 for the Cowboys if they trade Prescott is over $100 million so I can't see it happening.
 

USAF said:
What's predictable are the clowns still clinging to their anti-Sanders bias and refusing to admit he massively raised the Colorado football situation. Enormously.
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He draws attention and interest but he hasn't elevated Colorado.....and the way you know that is that the second he leaves the people who pay attention to Colorado right now will stop paying attention to them. The focus is on Sanders, not the school.

There won't be a single post on this forum about Colorado once Sanders isn't coaching them unless we happen to be playing them in a particular season.

Colorado has cashed in and will continue to cash in on Sanders time there but the effects will be short lived as soon as he leaves.
 

MNVCGUY said:
He draws attention and interest but he hasn't elevated Colorado.....and the way you know that is that the second he leaves the people who pay attention to Colorado right now will stop paying attention to them. The focus is on Sanders, not the school.

There won't be a single post on this forum about Colorado once Sanders isn't coaching them unless we happen to be playing them in a particular season.

Colorado has cashed in and will continue to cash in on Sanders time there but the effects will be short lived as soon as he leaves.
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Depends on who they hire next and if they can keep winning 8+ games

Will certainly be less but if the next hire’s new normal is 6 wins instead of 3

He elevated
 

Schnauzer said:
so much of this is sooooo predictable. If I could predict this from behind my keyboard as joe-fan, why couldn't the Colorado administration predict they would be getting nothing more than a couple few years of a circus?

Maybe they felt the circus and accompanying media attention was going to be worth it even if everything would have to be readdressed very soon.

They did get a Heisman, a blitz of media attention, and one winning season. So maybe that is considered a step forward after two seasons with primetime.
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I'm sure the CU administration predicted all of it and would gladly do it again. Massive win for them....especially when hires like this in the past usually left a pile of sanctions afterwards.

The previous five coaches at CU were a combined 63-120.
 

it's an interesting discussion on if he "elevated" the program and saying that if the next guy wins it's due to deion.

Mike McIntyre won 10 games there in a season and now can't go .500 at FIU.
Dorrell won 10 games at UCLA once (another place its hard to win at now) but never could at Colorado.

He won 9 games once at Colorado with the Heisman winner and another 1st round draft pick. To say he now has elevated the program is silly. it's going to be the exact same thing with the next guy who shows up who will have to do the job all over again as Deion brought in fans of Deion. The celebrities aren't now Colorado fans. The big money donors are going to be the same way. If he had put in infrastructure maybe its a different argument, but there's nothing that's going to be lasting. He did a good job at assembling talent and had some decent coaches with an end sum that looked less than that of their parts (which to do in 2 years is still an accomplishment to get what he did there). I think it's pretty entertaining that the Cowboys are even discussing him and really hope they do it purely for the watchability it will provide

Zero against Deion the person. He seems like a dad who loves his kids and would do anything for them. He's a mediocre game day coach and hard to know if he adds anything to the Xs and Os side (I'm sure he can damn well coach CB/DB technique though) and playcalling. Don't really know what he'd do for me in the NFL unless he did way more scheming than we thought for a Colorado team that was meh defensively despite having a guy who took away half the field on every play
 

upnorthkid said:
it's an interesting discussion on if he "elevated" the program and saying that if the next guy wins it's due to deion.

Mike McIntyre won 10 games there in a season and now can't go .500 at FIU.
Dorrell won 10 games at UCLA once (another place its hard to win at now) but never could at Colorado.

He won 9 games once at Colorado with the Heisman winner and another 1st round draft pick. To say he now has elevated the program is silly. it's going to be the exact same thing with the next guy who shows up who will have to do the job all over again as Deion brought in fans of Deion. The celebrities aren't now Colorado fans. The big money donors are going to be the same way. If he had put in infrastructure maybe its a different argument, but there's nothing that's going to be lasting. He did a good job at assembling talent and had some decent coaches with an end sum that looked less than that of their parts (which to do in 2 years is still an accomplishment to get what he did there). I think it's pretty entertaining that the Cowboys are even discussing him and really hope they do it purely for the watchability it will provide

Zero against Deion the person. He seems like a dad who loves his kids and would do anything for them. He's a mediocre game day coach and hard to know if he adds anything to the Xs and Os side (I'm sure he can damn well coach CB/DB technique though) and playcalling. Don't really know what he'd do for me in the NFL unless he did way more scheming than we thought for a Colorado team that was meh defensively despite having a guy who took away half the field on every play
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I would have trouble giving Deion credit for the next guy.

Deion managed to pick up some notable recruits, but his overall recruiting rankings are down year to year I believe. Not sure that's a great situation.
 

Unregistered User said:
Peon has already said that he will "privately" tell some teams that his son(s) will not sign with them, because peon wants his kid(s) to go to the "right" team to highlight their skills.

He'll simply tell every team that drafting his kids would be worthless and just let Shithead slide down to the cowboys pick.
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I actually wouldn't blame him for doing so. Obviously the Sam Darnold story didn't end beautfiully this year, but if anyone can learn from him it is find a team that will actually help you. His career was dead with the Jets and Panthers and he saved it somehow.

Baker Mayfield could do the same.

Why would Deion want his son to go to a team like the Jets, Giants, etc where draft picks go to die?
 

MNVCGUY said:
He draws attention and interest but he hasn't elevated Colorado.....and the way you know that is that the second he leaves the people who pay attention to Colorado right now will stop paying attention to them. The focus is on Sanders, not the school.

There won't be a single post on this forum about Colorado once Sanders isn't coaching them unless we happen to be playing them in a particular season.

Colorado has cashed in and will continue to cash in on Sanders time there but the effects will be short lived as soon as he leaves.
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I wanted Deon on fail, but ... hasn't elevated Colorado? They were one of the worst teams in the country three years ago. Now they're selling out home games, they got ranked in two years, they have the college football world talking about them. If the Gophers were in the same spot as the Buffs were then and we knew where we'd be two years later, we'd jump at it, even knowing he'd be gone.

In fact, we were in that spot once. Our Deon was Lou Holtz. We went from 1-10 (0-9) in 1983 to 6-5 (4-4) in 1985 and almost beat Ohio State in a sold out dome on national TV (when two games a week were on TV) and got us into a bowl game (when there were only 18 bowl games). Then he left.

But we were in a much better spot. Suddenly, Bobby Ross was interested in the job. We passed on him and he went on to win a national championship at Georgia Tech and coach in the NFL. We had a chance to make our move before Wisconsin did and we blew it. But Colorado doesn't have to blow it. They have new life now. We'll see what happens.
 

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I wanted Deon on fail, but ... hasn't elevated Colorado? They were one of the worst teams in the country three years ago. Now they're selling out home games, they got ranked in two years, they have the college football world talking about them. If the Gophers were in the same spot as the Buffs were then and we knew where we'd be two years later, we'd jump at it, even knowing he'd be gone.

In fact, we were in that spot once. Our Deon was Lou Holtz. We went from 1-10 (0-9) in 1983 to 6-5 (4-4) in 1985 and almost beat Ohio State in a sold out dome on national TV (when two games a week were on TV) and got us into a bowl game (when there were only 18 bowl games). Then he left.

But we were in a much better spot. Suddenly, Bobby Ross was interested in the job. We passed on him and he went on to win a national championship at Georgia Tech and coach in the NFL. We had a chance to make our move before Wisconsin did and we blew it. But Colorado doesn't have to blow it. They have new life now. We'll see what happens.
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The college football world isn't talking about Coloardo they are talking about Coach Prime who just happens to be coaching at Colorado. When Coach Prime is somewhere else the sports world will be talking about that location and Colorado will go back to being an afterthought on the National Scene.

Will be interesting to see what happens there. The Holtz comparison isn't a bad one although Sanders takes the hype thing to a whole different level. My guess is Colorado quickly becomes another middle of the road power 4 team the moment he is gone but could certainly be wrong and maybe the effects of the Coach Prime experience will stick with them even after he is gone and people will still pack the stadium and buy the merch. I highly doubt it....but anything is possible.
 

fmlizard said:
If I'm the Titans I'm begging the Cowboys to do this.

They get to pick up Dak Prescott and probably some additional assets in a Herschel Walker-type deal to make the Sanders family happy.

Or the darker path ensues where Shedeur refuses to play for any team except the Cowboys, forcing 11 franchises to either pass on him to appease him and Deion, or one to call his bluff.
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I'd guess it would be a massive haul for the Titans. I'd assume it would cost the Cowboys picks to unload Dak, so they'd actually have to pay for the first pick AND pay to unload Dak's contract.

If we assume unloading Dak would cost about a 2nd, the value break down would be something like:

Titans:
Dak
2025 1st Round (12)
2026 1st Round
2025 2nd Round
2026 3rd Round

Cowboys:
1st pick
 

MNVCGUY said:
He draws attention and interest but he hasn't elevated Colorado.....and the way you know that is that the second he leaves the people who pay attention to Colorado right now will stop paying attention to them. The focus is on Sanders, not the school.

There won't be a single post on this forum about Colorado once Sanders isn't coaching them unless we happen to be playing them in a particular season.

Colorado has cashed in and will continue to cash in on Sanders time there but the effects will be short lived as soon as he leaves.
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A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
I would have trouble giving Deion credit for the next guy.

Deion managed to pick up some notable recruits, but his overall recruiting rankings are down year to year I believe. Not sure that's a great situation.
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Overall ranking by 247 for his three classes-

2023 - 21
2024 - 22
2025 - 24

Certainly not an, “Oh my goodness moment by any stretch🤷‍♂️.”

That’s known as building a program in Douglas County.


 
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