Hmmm. I'm an optimist. Many here are pessimists. I've been looking at historical records this week and believe those on this forum who remember the glory days are a small minority. If you've never seen success what makes you think it will ever happen here? I'm kind of a football guy in that when I watch a game I get impressions and a flavor for what's happening. I don't just watch the scoreboard or read the W-L column to judge what I think is happening. From my perspective, the team is making significant strides towards what you seek - Ws - and also is progressing in other areas, as well. I'm sorry my comments and perspective are offensive to you.
Not "offensive" just disingenuous.
That's a reasonable response and "pessimists" is certainly less pejorative than "cynics". The thing is you don't have to go back to Warmath and Stoll to see some success around here. Mason's tenure and through the Wisconsin game of Brewster's 2nd year there's been varying levels of success. The thing is during those seasons and in fact most of Mason's tenure they were in many if not most of the games.
During Kill's tenure once they drop back by more than 14 points it's over. That doesn't foment "hope. It stirs hopelessness.
If you're a football guy and you've been here at least 4 years you'd see that there is little or no progress from the last three games of 2010. You'll see a LOT of progress from Brewster's tenure and from Kill's first year. Particularly from his first 4-5 games when even he finally admitted that it wasn't just his "lousy players" but coaching mistakes that cost them the NMSU and NDSU games.
Thought things were looking-up during the Non-Conference Season this year. They didn't throw the ball much, they didn't have to. Even posted that the BTN shouldn't be so pessimistic about the Passing Game because they hadn't seen it. The Iowa game came and it turns out they were right. That same game caused some loss of faith in Kill and Company too. He said a starter shouldn't lose a game to injury and Nelson said he still wasn't sure he was healthy. Then Kill said that he thought about putting Leidner in but said he didn't think it would help.
None of those actions or statements made things better either.
You've said again and again that since Kill's done it before and with the same staff, albeit at lower levels with more equal competition, that you're convinced that he can do it here.
When you were doing that research did the name
Joe Salem come up?
He was perfect for a lot of people. He was an "M Club" guy with a proven track record, albeit at lower levels. He took a South Dakota Coyotes team that had one winning season out of his first six to three straight Conference titles. He then went to Northern Arizona and after a 1-9 season took them to 8-3, 9-3 and 8-2 years. Finished 3rd, 2nd and 1st in the Conference those years also.
Got here and finished 4-4-1, 4-5 and 4-5 in the Big Ten before the wheels fell off the last two years.
How about J
im Wacker? He was the Head Coach before Mason. He had a
wonderful record at Texas Lutheran, North Dakota State and Southwest Texas State. Then had a so-so record at TCU before he came up here. Good, no GREAT guy, kids graduated, teams scored but he didn't start recruiting Defenders until his last year here. So please forgive those of us that aren't entirely sold on what somebody has done "on the lower levels".
There you have it. Kill certainly needs more time to get things on the right track. He just does. Though maybe you should be slightly less sanctimonious when dealing with people who are understandably focused more on his recent teams than the ones he had success with on a "lower level".
