Big Ten QB ratings after week 1

The Gophers probably win by 11 without the muffed punt. The Rebels had shown nothing that suggests they would have scored a TD without the short field and momentum boost that play provided. That gets you to a 17-6 win. Not great, but not close either. Also, in that case we would have had a 2-1 TO advantage since Wells' 3OT interception wouldn't have happened and Gray's INT still would have.

17-6 win (dunno how you got 17 instead of 16) if we don't muff the punt, yet UNLV still makes all of their mistakes. If Sherry doesn't get picked by Wells on the 25 game stays at 10-10 and unlv probably wins the game 13-10.
 

17-6 win (dunno how you got 17 instead of 16) if we don't muff the punt, yet UNLV still makes all of their mistakes. If Sherry doesn't get picked by Wells on the 25 game stays at 10-10 and unlv probably wins the game 13-10.

Whoooooo...yea, that's such epic fail. I was trying multitask when I was posting and I think I took the # of points scored in OT and made it into the regulation score for the Gophers. WAY OFF. Sorry about that. 13-6 would have been the final score in my hypothetical.

As to your point about eliminating 1 Gophers error but leaving all the UNLV errors...you suggested no one could provide a reason why the game was so close. That punt is a key and distinct reason why it was. You didn't say I had to take away a UNLV mistake if the key play I highlighted was a Gopher mistake.
 

They invented this thing called google. It's nifty for these kinds of situations.

I googled "Kain Colter injured" and the top 5 articles are all about Kain Colter being injured. Nate posted one of those articles.

Nifty invention huh?

Soooooo, clearly in the future I need to go WELL beyond the FIRST 2-3 articles I read, and do a lot more than than actually watching the end of the game, before I get to the REAL root of the story. At this point, I have to admit, I feel pretty lazy that I didn't dig a lot deeper.

I will do better next time, I promise. This was indeed a learning experience.
 

Wow 13 pages in 1.5 days on this topic. I'll call Teague and see if I can get kickoff moved up to Friday!!
 

Soooooo, clearly in the future I need to go WELL beyond the FIRST 2-3 articles I read, and do a lot more than than actually watching the end of the game, before I get to the REAL root of the story. At this point, I have to admit, I feel pretty lazy that I didn't dig a lot deeper.

I will do better next time, I promise. This was indeed a learning experience.

I'm not asking you to do anything, you can keep asking everyone to provide you links to prove that common knowledge is accurate. It was widely reported that the NWestern QB was injured, you disputed it and THEN asked someone else to provide you links when you could have done a simple google search. It has nothing to do with laziness, it would have taken you fewer key strokes to simply google the situation rather than ask someone else to provide you links.
 



I'm not asking you to do anything, you can keep asking everyone to provide you links to prove that common knowledge is accurate. It was widely reported that the NWestern QB was injured, you disputed it and THEN asked someone else to provide you links when you could have done a simple google search. It has nothing to do with laziness, it would have taken you fewer key strokes to simply google the situation rather than ask someone else to provide you links.

No idea why I continue to engage but I did google it. Googled "kain colter Syracuse " and came up with the ESPN game recap, which mentioned nothing of the injury and also an article that again mentioned no injury but questioned Colters heart

http://www.rantsports.com/lacesout/2012/09/04/kain-colter-willingly-goes-to-the-bench/

I'd say a minimum of two articles, one being the ESPN recap, without even a mention of an injury may not QUITE qualify as "widely reported" but who knows. I was clearly incorrect, vehemently pointed out by the pro-Gray contingent.

Interesting to see how things unfold at NU with this situation. Hopefully its still unsettled when they hit TCF!
 

No idea why I continue to engage but I did google it. Googled "kain colter Syracuse " and came up with the ESPN game recap, which mentioned nothing of the injury and also an article that again mentioned no injury but questioned Colters heart

http://www.rantsports.com/lacesout/2012/09/04/kain-colter-willingly-goes-to-the-bench/

I'd say a minimum of two articles, one being the ESPN recap, without even a mention of an injury may not QUITE qualify as "widely reported" but who knows. I was clearly incorrect, vehemently pointed out by the pro-Gray contingent.

Interesting to see how things unfold at NU with this situation. Hopefully its still unsettled when they hit TCF!

Congrats, you found 2 articles that failed to know that he was injured. That is obviously enough to debunk the idea that Kolter being injured wasn't widely reported. At what threshold does something become widely reported?

Obviously to you 3 articles in the Chicago Tribune, USA Today, their version of GH (NWestern Blog), ESPN's midweek blog, the school newspaper isn't quite enough. So what is threshold?

The "pro-Gray" contingent is having a problem with letting facts get in the way of your argument, so for that we do apologize.
 

I hereby declare this thread a complete success in terms of participation.

Looking forward to a restart after Saturday. Hopefully we will all be singing the praises of MG.

Go Gophers*

*copyright BleedGopher
 



Congrats, you found 2 articles that failed to know that he was injured. That is obviously enough to debunk the idea that Kolter being injured wasn't widely reported. At what threshold does something become widely reported?

Obviously to you 3 articles in the Chicago Tribune, USA Today, their version of GH (NWestern Blog), ESPN's midweek blog, the school newspaper isn't quite enough. So what is threshold?

The "pro-Gray" contingent is having a problem with letting facts get in the way of your argument, so for that we do apologize.

Good grief, WTF, Bob?? For as long as I can recall, you engage in good discussion and provide really good insight, light-hearted thoughtful conversation. I dare say you seem down right cranky in this thread. I don't get it. What's wrong with a little humor in our analysis?

Call it the luck of the draw, whatever you want. Believe it or not, those two (and one other) were the first articles I found discussing the game and I went with it. I didn't cherry pick the articles. At this point it's really not worth arguing that adamantly, is it?

I'll throw this out there one more time, for the record, and maybe I speak for some of the others who thought Gray was WELL below par in this game. Hopefully you can get where I'm coming from.

My frustration isn't that Gray missed BADLY on a boatload of throws (9 is probably generous, in Gray's favor). Anybody can have a bad, bad game. My frustration is that it's the same old shat.

It's that Gray is a Senior, and same old shat.

It's that all we heard for the last 6-8 months is how vastly improved he is, and same old shat.

It's that the Gophers were playing EASILY, FAR AND AWAY the worst defense they will play all year, and same old shat. (I watched a few quarters yet again last night, bored, and it's amazing how GALACTICALLY bad the Rebels' defense is, particularly the tacklnig)

From what we had heard through spring and fall camp, I came into the season (admittedly, maroon colored goggles) thinking that there probably wasn't another QB in the BT that I would rather have. I thought he could/would come into the season and put the Gophers on his back and do some great things.

So THAT's my source of frustration. I'm off the ledge now, willing to chalk it up to first game, nerves, whatever. It was just really deflating to see the same thing at Sam Boyd that we've essentially always seen, which is a QB that just isn't very accurate.

Truce?
 

Gray chimes in again:

"Based off the film and me being out there, I feel like I missed like four more touchdowns through the air," Gray said. "Like I said, it wasn't my best game. I'm anxious to get back out there, and I know we could have scored more points if I was able to just sit back there and put some more air under those balls."

Gray said he has been thinking about the poor performance all this week during practice.

"To see all these other teams putting up big points, and those balls that I overthrew, we could have been up there in that area," he said. "But like I said, we won the game and that's very positive. We'll be ready this week."

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/168860986.html

Go Gophers!!
 

I hereby declare this thread a complete success in terms of participation.

Looking forward to a restart after Saturday. Hopefully we will all be singing the praises of MG.

Go Gophers*

*copyright BleedGopher

Thanks! :D

Go Gophers!!
 




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