All Things RB Jeffrey Jones Thread

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Killjoy said:
You are VERY likely correct. At a spring practice I had the pleasure of listening to a conversation of two people who are close to the program and do know what is going on with Jones. They said the problem with Jones is that he has to improve both his ACT score and his grades. His grades during his freshman and sophomore years especially need to be improved. There is a process that allows Jones to raise them if he does certain things. Unfortunately they didn't say exactly what that was, but they did say Jones had his work out for him.

In order for Jones to qualify he needs to improve both his ACT score AND his grades. His grades won't be known until June so I expect nothing is going to be reported until both are known.
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I believe it is a sliding scale so he wouldn't need to improve his grades as much or at all depending on how well he does on his ACT. He needs to do the equivalent of raising his score by 1 and raise his GPA by 0.2.
 

die hard gopher said:
I believe it is a sliding scale so he wouldn't need to improve his grades as much or at all depending on how well he does on his ACT. He needs to do the equivalent of raising his score by 1 and raise his GPA by 0.2.
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I believe you are correct but I don't know what the conversion factor is. I was lead to believe that the reason for "redoing" some of his freshman and sophomore classes was that his grades were very bad. The implication was that he may not have enough time.
 

It could be that some required core courses need to be passed to qualify. If there are two or three in addition to his regular school load I could see some difficulty. We really won't know until June 16 if he's going to make it for summer session. The bigger problem might be getting an eligibility clearance from the NCAA Clearing House.
 

Killjoy said:
You are VERY likely correct. At a spring practice I had the pleasure of listening to a conversation of two people who are close to the program and do know what is going on with Jones. They said the problem with Jones is that he has to improve both his ACT score and his grades. His grades during his freshman and sophomore years especially need to be improved. There is a process that allows Jones to raise them if he does certain things. Unfortunately they didn't say exactly what that was, but they did say Jones had his work out for him.

In order for Jones to qualify he needs to improve both his ACT score AND his grades. His grades won't be known until June so I expect nothing is going to be reported until both are known.
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Interesting. At a spring practice I had the bad luck of being near a conversation of two people who acted like they were close to the program and knew what is going on with Jones - but were actually just speculating like the rest of us. You don't think it could have been the same.... no, forget it. It couldn't have been.
 

Spoofin said:
Interesting. At a spring practice I had the bad luck of being near a conversation of two people who acted like they were close to the program and knew what is going on with Jones - but were actually just speculating like the rest of us. You don't think it could have been the same.... no, forget it. It couldn't have been.
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I would have thought the same thing if somebody else had posted what I had posted. When I recognized who they were I decided to ask them what they thought Jones status was and I was shocked when one of them answered my question. He started by saying that Rashaun Croney had a much better chance of being admitted than Jeff Jones. That was before Croney had been admitted.

My reason in posting this was to let people know that we won't know the answer to whether Jeff will be admitted until probably June when his grades and course work are completed or not completed.

There has been a lot of speculation about Jeff but very little factual information. It is my hope that he is doing everything he can so he that he will be a Gopher this fall. But if it doesn't work out for him this fall, hopefully, Kill and his staff will have a plan B so that he will be able to qualify later. They seem to be good at solving problems.
 


Worst case scenario: Rodney Smith gets drafted by MLB & opts out of football; Jeff Jones misses out scholastically and has to go Plan B.

I am keeping my fingers crossed...
 

Darren Wolfson ‏@DarrenWolfson 2m
Jeff Jones scored above a 17 on ACT. He'll take again though. Still Washburn work to do. To play it's HS GPA + ACT. Shama had 1st. #Gophers
 


Jerry Kill will watch out for this kid's best interest whether he goes the JUCO route first or not.

We want him back to finish his college career and get his degree at the U of M.
 



bemidjigopher said:
Is 17 the minimum or does he need an 18, did he get a 17.5 when they say above 17?
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No information, but I'm guessing that 17 is the bare minimum requirement from the way it was stated. Now let's just hope he does what he needs to with classes and GPA.


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Well, "above a 17" means 18 or better, right? It's works in conjunction with his GPA on a sliding scale, so we really won't know until all his school work is done. No sense in wringing out hands over something we can't control, and won't know the answer to for some time.
 

Unregistered User said:
Well, "above a 17" means 18 or better, right? It's works in conjunction with his GPA on a sliding scale, so we really won't know until all his school work is done. No sense in wringing out hands over something we can't control, and won't know the answer to for some time.
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Yep, this is why it was mentioned he still had Washburn work to do.
 

Miles Tarver said:
Darren Wolfson ‏@DarrenWolfson 2m
Jeff Jones scored above a 17 on ACT. He'll take again though. Still Washburn work to do. To play it's HS GPA + ACT. Shama had 1st. #Gophers
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This is very good news and definitely progress towards qualifying. He has already finished all his ACT work and just needs to increase his GPA by 0.2 by the end of the year however since he is still going to take the June ACT he might not need to if he can raise his score even more. Very pleased to hear.
 



strange i took the news to tip the scales toward a yr at North Dakota Mining College-

This kid is our Brent Moss.
 

It is possible that he is retaking freshman and sophomore classes in hopes of getting a better grade? That would eliminate a low grade and have a larger impact on his GPA.

I'm not sure if this is possible but my senior year I had enough credits that I was able to take 2-3 study halls per trimester.
 

Per Shama: Washburn running back Jeff Jones, who is a star recruit in the Gophers 2014 incoming freshmen class, earned his best ACT score earlier this month. Jones is working to improve his GPA at Washburn and combined with his qualifying ACT score the goal is to earn academic acceptance to Minnesota in June.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Jeff Jones scored above a 17 on ACT. He'll take again though. Still Washburn work to do. To play it's HS GPA + ACT. Shama had 1st. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Gophers&src=hash">#Gophers</a></p>— Darren Wolfson (@DarrenWolfson) <a href="https://twitter.com/DarrenWolfson/statuses/460810915022008321">April 28, 2014</a></blockquote>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/gavinhanson">@gavinhanson</a> Jeff has to up Washburn GPA still if he wants to be eligible with Gophers this summer. Making great progress.</p>— Darren Wolfson (@DarrenWolfson) <a href="https://twitter.com/DarrenWolfson/statuses/460811996682657793">April 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Doogie also said he is leaning to the side of Jeff qualifying.
 

No one knows but Jones and the people with access to his grades.

I wouldn't be surprised if he makes it or not.
 

Tim Riggins said:
It is possible that he is retaking freshman and sophomore classes in hopes of getting a better grade? That would eliminate a low grade and have a larger impact on his GPA.

I'm not sure if this is possible but my senior year I had enough credits that I was able to take 2-3 study halls per trimester.
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A person discussing the topic with Doogie on twitter did say that you can retake that you can retake those classes somehow. Just some random guy though so take it for what its worth.
 

Sounds like we should take Doogie's tweet as a positive. Hopefully the kid finishes the semester strong.
 

die hard gopher said:
A person discussing the topic with Doogie on twitter did say that you can retake that you can retake those classes somehow. Just some random guy though so take it for what its worth.
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That was me, and I heard it from somebody on here.
 



We are where we were before Jeff Jones is not yet fully qualified academically except we know that he's accomplished the first step by getting a qualifying ACT score. We won't know if he's raised his GPA enough to qualify until the end of the semester. One thing that's encouraging is that he's going to take the ACT again that must mean that he meets the minimum GPA and the sliding scale is the problem. What we really need is for someone with a child in the Mpls school system to explain the procedures to raise GPA. My daughter was never in academic trouble in St Paul but I seem to remember there was a procedure to retake classes that you got a D or F to get a C.
 

nsmike said:
We are where we were before Jeff Jones is not yet fully qualified academically except we know that he's accomplished the first step by getting a qualifying ACT score. We won't know if he's raised his GPA enough to qualify until the end of the semester. One thing that's encouraging is that he's going to take the ACT again that must mean that he meets the minimum GPA and the sliding scale is the problem. What we really need is for someone with a child in the Mpls school system to explain the procedures to raise GPA. My daughter was never in academic trouble in St Paul but I seem to remember there was a procedure to retake classes that you got a D or F to get a C.
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It's a sliding scale, so I don't believe that there's a minimum GPA or ACT. Both matter.
 

There used to be a lot of programs like the BYU Grade Replacement Program that aspiring D1 student-athletes could do. I remember reading The Blindside that that's what Michael Oher did. But most of those have become non-NCAA approved now. You would think that there would be SOME way that he could help his cause over the summer. Maybe he could take summer courses that go on his transcripts and would improve his GPA...
 

thesanfordman said:
It's a sliding scale, so I don't believe that there's a minimum GPA or ACT. Both matter.
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The minimum GPA for 16 core NCAA classes is 2.0
The ACT minimum, in the case of a GPA above 3.55, is 37 (Sum of the 4 parts).

If Jeff's ACT was truly a 17, his ACT sum should be 66-70, meaning his minimum GPA to qualify would be 2.45-2.55.
 

Oregon Gopher said:
The minimum GPA for 16 core NCAA classes is 2.0
The ACT minimum, in the case of a GPA above 3.55, is 37 (Sum of the 4 parts).

If Jeff's ACT was truly a 17, his ACT sum should be 66-70, meaning his minimum GPA to qualify would be 2.45-2.55.
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We need Washburn to *ahem* playball.
 

Oregon Gopher said:
The minimum GPA for 16 core NCAA classes is 2.0
The ACT minimum, in the case of a GPA above 3.55, is 37 (Sum of the 4 parts).

If Jeff's ACT was truly a 17, his ACT sum should be 66-70, meaning his minimum GPA to qualify would be 2.45-2.55.
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I thought a perfect ACT score was a 36. Am I missing something?
 

afurry91 said:
I thought a perfect ACT score was a 36. Am I missing something?
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On the ACT, you score 1-36 on four sections: English, Reading, Math, and Science. The section scores are then summed, divided by four, and rounded to the nearest integer to give you the composite score.

For some reason, the NCAA uses the summed score (max of 36x4=144) for eligibility rather than much more commonly referred to composite score (max of 36).
 

The NCAA uses the summed score rather than the composite score because it allows for a greater degree of precision.
 

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