All Things Pitino rumor mill thread

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What a dumb thread. Pitino isn't going anywhere. Amelia, agents, and the rest of the jackals reeled you folks in. Idiots.
 

no losing seasons because of really weak scheduling. I think he can win here but he has not proven he can build a winner. not even remotely a coaching star. You get that when you win something meaningful or win at a place where few have won
 

I believe there is some fire to this smoke but certainly not saying he's making the jump. If my Boss found out a competitor was actively trying to recruit me away and I valued my job, I'd be in his Office assuring him that I'm not going anywhere. Of course, I could be lying to my Boss. The silence we hear from Teague and Richard the last few days could be telling as well.
 



If he wants to leave he wants to leave, it really wouldn't be that big of deal. My hope is that Teague's next coach would be a guy at interested in making the tourney before jumping ship.
 

Slim Tubby said:
I believe there is some fire to this smoke but certainly not saying he's making the jump. If my Boss found out a competitor was actively trying to recruit me away and I valued my job, I'd be in his Office assuring him that I'm not going anywhere. Of course, I could be lying to my Boss. The silence we hear from Teague and Richard the last few days could be telling as well.
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If a competitor is actively trying to recruit you away to coach his basketball team, it's up to your boss to assure you he doesn't want you to go anywhere.

Or maybe because we haven't heard from Teague and Richard, it's a package deal?
 

Maximus said:
If a competitor is actively trying to recruit you away to coach his basketball team, it's up to your boss to assure you he doesn't want you to go anywhere.

Or maybe because we haven't heard from Teague and Richard, it's a package deal?
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Good point, Maximus, but I doubt the AD at Alabama isn't going anywhere. Maybe Teague isn't worried about losing Richard? Maybe Teague isn't satisfied with Richard's performance? I still say there is too much "rub" out there that there isn't something to this story. That doesn't mean that Richard is looking to leave, though. We'd all listen to other offers if it improved our earning/living potential.
 

Is Alabama a respected basketball coaching job at all? To me it seems like the same level as Minnesota at best. Yet there are talks they could get Gregg Marshall or Shaka or take Patio from us. I don't get it...
 



mcal24 said:
Is Alabama a respected basketball coaching job at all? To me it seems like the same level as Minnesota at best. Yet there are talks they could get Gregg Marshall or Shaka or take Patio from us. I don't get it...
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goldengophers said:
If he wants to leave he wants to leave, it really wouldn't be that big of deal. My hope is that Teague's next coach would be a guy at interested in making the tourney before jumping ship.
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With where we are at in recruiting- it would be a disaster. We have 6 returning players. If Pitino left and some of the recruits followed- we have a serious mess that sets the program back another few years. If it is serious, Teague may have to get the U to pony up some cash as Pitino is on the bottom end of the pay scale. Barring a big time hire attendance would take a major hit.
 

bga1 said:
With where we are at in recruiting- it would be a disaster. We have 6 returning players. If Pitino left and some of the recruits followed- we have a serious mess that sets the program back another few years. If it is serious, Teague may have to get the U to pony up some cash as Pitino is on the bottom end of the pay scale. Barring a big time hire attendance would take a major hit.
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This is overly cynical - and doesn't suggest this is going on - but it's the perfect situation in which to hold your employer hostage. It's the nuclear threat.
 



Bad Gopher said:
This is overly cynical - and doesn't suggest this is going on - but it's the perfect situation in which to hold your employer hostage. It's the nuclear threat.
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If he asked for a raise I'd fire him.

Edit: and I LOVE Pitino.
 

Then Teague should counter with " there is not a nickel more until you have earned it " He can put an end to it by telling him has two hours to make a decision. That will call the bluff on the agent because he is not being pursued by anybody at a better program.
 

builtbadgers said:
Then Teague should counter with " there is not a nickel more until you have earned it " He can put an end to it by telling him has two hours to make a decision. That will call the bluff on the agent because he is not being pursued by anybody at a better program.
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Haha - why so dramatic? How about Teague just talk with Pitino to make sure he's still committed?
 

builtbadgers said:
no losing seasons because of really weak scheduling. I think he can win here but he has not proven he can build a winner. not even remotely a coaching star. You get that when you win something meaningful or win at a place where few have won
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I didn't say he was a coaching star. I said he has a better resume than he did when he was hired here. If a respectable program isn't getting acceptable interest in its coaching vacancy, that could end up being enough. After all, he was hired here with less. I don't know why you insist on telling all of us what will and what will not happen. By the age of 75, you should have encountered enough surprises in your life to refrain from doing that.
 

builtbadgers said:
Then Teague should counter with " there is not a nickel more until you have earned it " He can put an end to it by telling him has two hours to make a decision. That will call the bluff on the agent because he is not being pursued by anybody at a better program.
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That's kind of what I'm getting at, he doesn't deserve a pay increase regardless if Alabama wants him or not. We can't give him an increase on name alone, his record trumps any nepotistic notions Alabama might have.
 


Alabama is a much better job than minneota. Bama actually has a football team that can fund and subsidize the basketball program. Pitino is a very good young and up and coming coach. The fact bama can offer higher profile coaches 3.5 million as reported, says quite a bit as a department comitted to winning. I would say that if I were richard, I would have a much better chance to win in the SEC and in Alabama. Sorry to be blunt Gopher fans, but as of now, the Univeristy of Minnesota is a mediocre job with a lot of potential. There have been decades of athletic departmment mismanagement that is coming home to roost as colege athletics have evolved. Until we create a culture of winning at the U, we should expect more of the same, rumors of coaches leaving, medicre recruiting classes, and sub par B1G performance.
 

jimmyvalvanoguy said:
Alabama is a much better job than minneota. Bama actually has a football team that can fund and subsidize the basketball program. Pitino is a very good young and up and coming coach. The fact bama can offer higher profile coaches 3.5 million as reported, says quite a bit as a department comitted to winning. I would say that if I were richard, I would have a much better chance to win in the SEC and in Alabama. Sorry to be blunt Gopher fans, but as of now, the Univeristy of Minnesota is a mediocre job with a lot of potential. There have been decades of athletic departmment mismanagement that is coming home to roost as colege athletics have evolved. Until we create a culture of winning at the U, we should expect more of the same, rumors of coaches leaving, medicre recruiting classes, and sub par B1G performance.
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don't disagree with the above, just wonder if the AD could say
"I give you our new coach Nick Saban"
and follow that up with
"I give you our new coach Rich Pitino"
 

jimmyvalvanoguy said:
Alabama is a much better job than minneota. Bama actually has a football team that can fund and subsidize the basketball program. Pitino is a very good young and up and coming coach. The fact bama can offer higher profile coaches 3.5 million as reported, says quite a bit as a department comitted to winning. I would say that if I were richard, I would have a much better chance to win in the SEC and in Alabama. Sorry to be blunt Gopher fans, but as of now, the Univeristy of Minnesota is a mediocre job with a lot of potential. There have been decades of athletic departmment mismanagement that is coming home to roost as colege athletics have evolved. Until we create a culture of winning at the U, we should expect more of the same, rumors of coaches leaving, medicre recruiting classes, and sub par B1G performance.
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We have zero idea if he is an up and coming coach and I like him.
 

As somebody once said on this site, I think it gets back to whether or not Pitino thinks he can recruit here. He went for the moon in year one and didn't land anybody. Does he think he can continue to take steps forward in the program with fringe top 100 guys or dramatically improve the recruiting in the future? Or not? That (and an extra million or two per year) is probably the deciding factor, in my opinion.
 

golfing18now said:
As somebody once said on this site, I think it gets back to whether or not Pitino thinks he can recruit here. He went for the moon in year one and didn't land anybody. Does he think he can continue to take steps forward in the program with fringe top 100 guys or dramatically improve the recruiting in the future? Or not? That (and an extra million or two per year) is probably the deciding factor, in my opinion.
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His incoming class is a good one based upon his track record. It will only get better as he build up a reputation.

How many guys from the NE do you think will want to play it Alabama? Alabama is a one trick pony and basketball is not in the saddle.


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golfing18now said:
As somebody once said on this site, I think it gets back to whether or not Pitino thinks he can recruit here. He went for the moon in year one and didn't land anybody. Does he think he can continue to take steps forward in the program with fringe top 100 guys or dramatically improve the recruiting in the future? Or not? That (and an extra million or two per year) is probably the deciding factor, in my opinion.
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Given the jobs (allegedly) available to him, he ain't going to recruit any better than he can at Minnesota. Our incoming class is very good and very deep. We should have brand new practice facilities for him in the near future and I think he really likes how the Gophers are the only D-1 program in the state. Less competition going after in-state talent.
 

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golfing18now said:
As somebody once said on this site, I think it gets back to whether or not Pitino thinks he can recruit here. He went for the moon in year one and didn't land anybody. Does he think he can continue to take steps forward in the program with fringe top 100 guys or dramatically improve the recruiting in the future? Or not? That (and an extra million or two per year) is probably the deciding factor, in my opinion.
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Clem took a team with a couple fringe top 100 guys to the Elite Eight. The idea that you can't win at Minnesota is a cop out.
 

MadtownGopher;1043763I think he really likes how the Gophers are the only D-1 program in the state. Less competition going after in-state talent.[/QUOTE said:
Is that why he's only offered one player from Minnesota in the current recruiting class and appeared to make only a perfunctory run at last year's group? He throws the verbal bone to the sentimental tribal types here and there ("securing the borders"), but the evidence so far doesn't indicate that he puts much priority on recruiting in-state.
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Bad Gopher said:
Clem took a team with a couple fringe top 100 guys to the Elite Eight. The idea that you can't win at Minnesota is a cop out.
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I'm not saying he can't win at Minnesota, but history would suggest it isn't easy here.

He also isn't coming from Western Kentucky. His history was at Louisville and Florida.
 

cjbfbp said:
Is that why he's only offered one player from Minnesota in the current recruiting class and appeared to make only a perfunctory run at last year's group? He throws the verbal bone to the sentimental tribal types here and there ("securing the borders"), but the evidence so far doesn't indicate that he puts much priority on recruiting in-state.
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Securing the border doesn't mean offering 1-star and 2-star Minnesota kids. It means keeping the best of the best. He offered both Jarvis and Alex in this year's class, the best of the best. We ran out of scholarships in the fall signing period so Alex signed with Wisconsin. He has already gone after future recruits hard as well... Hurt brothers, Coffey, Trent, Mar, John etc.
 

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