All Things P.J. Fleck Rumor Mill Thread - Listed as Candidate for Other Jobs

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howeda7 said:
Even though we won, I can't see any big time program watching this offense and saying oh yeah sign me up for that.
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Agreed, but I think that's where, with all the openings, an AD that's swung and missed on his top 12 or 13 candidates might reach for PJ. The question that would arise is probably one of how much more money would it take for PJ to agree to give up some control of the team to the AD (i.e., requiring PJ hire experienced coordinators with some level of autonomy)?
 

Gophergrandpa said:
I honestly hope PJ stays. He has been great for the program. Too early take: But if, because of the sheer number of highly-paid positions that are and will be open this year, he is seduced away, I hope the Gophs would consider NDSU’s Polasek. A winner. Knows and has recruited the area. I believe a coach like Polasek would keep in place and strengthen the cultural edifice OJ has painstakingly built. And he has had a lot of experience, including x’s and o’s jobs. Plus, he was a successful QB in college. Might get a little more dynamism in the offense?

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I think he'd be worth a flyer. I would be surprised if when the music stops, he's not sitting in an FBS chair this time next year. He's not likely to end up in a P4 job, but keep an eye on top G6 jobs. Colorado State comes to mind as a job that's his if he wants it but its been a tough place to win. As an SDSU fan, I'm impressed with him. NDSU upgraded when Entz left.
 

swede2 said:
Agreed, but I think that's where, with all the openings, an AD that's swung and missed on his top 12 or 13 candidates might reach for PJ. The question that would arise is probably one of how much more money would it take for PJ to agree to give up some control of the team to the AD (i.e., requiring PJ hire experienced coordinators with some level of autonomy)?
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Are you saying PJ doesn’t hire more experienced coordinators so he can have more control over the team? If so, I don’t see it that way. I think he doesn’t hire them because he has a restricted budget for paying coaches. I don’t know if it’s the magic number, but an extra million dollars for the coaches pool would really help.

In fact, I think the coaches salary pool should at least equal Fleck’s annual compensation. It doesn’t have to be all used, but should be there when needed to attract or retain top coaches.
 

WAGopher said:
Are you saying PJ doesn’t hire more experienced coordinators so he can have more control over the team? If so, I don’t see it that way. I think he doesn’t hire them because he has a restricted budget for paying coaches. I don’t know if it’s the magic number, but an extra million dollars for the coaches pool would really help.

In fact, I think the coaches salary pool should at least equal Fleck’s annual compensation. It doesn’t have to be all used, but should be there when needed to attract or retain top coaches.
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Totally agree on this take. Do people really believe that he would not hire top end coordinators if he had another million bucks to pay out?

If I were a AD at a school with a large budget I would definitely be interested in seeing what PJ could do at their school with a large NIL pool, admin support, and assistant coach budget. Personally I think he has outperformed his relative support at MN by a win a year at least.
 

WAGopher said:
Are you saying PJ doesn’t hire more experienced coordinators so he can have more control over the team? If so, I don’t see it that way. I think he doesn’t hire them because he has a restricted budget for paying coaches. I don’t know if it’s the magic number, but an extra million dollars for the coaches pool would really help.

In fact, I think the coaches salary pool should at least equal Fleck’s annual compensation. It doesn’t have to be all used, but should be there when needed to attract or retain top coaches.
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The salary pool for assistant coaches fairytale just isn’t true.
 


WAGopher said:
Are you saying PJ doesn’t hire more experienced coordinators so he can have more control over the team? If so, I don’t see it that way. I think he doesn’t hire them because he has a restricted budget for paying coaches. I don’t know if it’s the magic number, but an extra million dollars for the coaches pool would really help.

In fact, I think the coaches salary pool should at least equal Fleck’s annual compensation. It doesn’t have to be all used, but should be there when needed to attract or retain top coaches.
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Yes to the first question.

Is my memory faulty? Didn't PJ have unused assistant funds a few years ago?
 

Gopherchase said:
The salary pool for assistant coaches fairytale just isn’t true.
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Are you saying the Gophers had enough funds to match Heatherman’s offer from Miami? Or had enough to attract a proven DC instead of promoting Collins, who never had any coordinator experience?

I think they could have matched Rossi’s with an extra $300k, but Heatherman was out of range for the U’s pocketbook.
 






btowngopher said:
You assume because we are in the b1g we have the same resources as everyone in the b1g. Why would he not use the full budget?
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The reason he wouldn’t use the full budget if he thinks person X for 800k is just as good or better than person Y for 1.2 million

Pretty simple
 


btowngopher said:
You assume because we are in the b1g we have the same resources as everyone in the b1g. Why would he not use the full budget?
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Not the same resources across the board because NIL and ticket revenue vary, but the TV money and all of that revenue is split up equally. We have plenty of money to pay assistants the going rate. That said, our two current coordinators both are making more than their experience would indicate they should because of their job title not because of their skill set or resume. Do we really think that these two would be coordinators for any other P4 school in America?
 



Gopherchase said:
Not the same resources across the board because NIL and ticket revenue vary, but the TV money and all of that revenue is split up equally. We have plenty of money to pay assistants the going rate. That said, our two current coordinators both are making more than their experience would indicate they should because of their job title not because of their skill set or resume. Do we really think that these two would be coordinators for any other P4 school in America?
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I don’t know WI is pretty bad.
 

Gopherchase said:
Not the same resources across the board because NIL and ticket revenue vary, but the TV money and all of that revenue is split up equally. We have plenty of money to pay assistants the going rate. That said, our two current coordinators both are making more than their experience would indicate they should because of their job title not because of their skill set or resume. Do we really think that these two would be coordinators for any other P4 school in America?
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These two coordinators are so bad that the team is 7th in an 18 team conference.


I don’t love the OC
The DC I hope will grow


But hyperbole like these guys couldn’t be coordinators for UCF is a little extreme
 

72 pages (and counting) of Minnesota fan insecurity. It's hard to believe that one Lou Holtz defection to Notre Dame could eternally stir the same pot. vigorously.
 

Schnauzer said:
72 pages (and counting) of Minnesota fan insecurity. It's hard to believe that one Lou Holtz defection to Notre Dame could eternally stir the same pot. vigorously.
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Most of the 72 pages are people saying he won’t leave
 


kisarazu said:
Wake me up when the Gophers pay a coordinator Phil Parker money. (1.9 mil)
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I'd rather find a coordinator as good as Phil Parker and worth the money.

PJ likes his internal promotion process. I think its a way to pat himself on the back and keep program cost down so he can get his next raise.

PJ would do better to forgo salary increases and hire better assistants to make he program better. Sadly, PJ's ego would never allow that to happen.
 

WHB Brewer said:
I'd rather find a coordinator as good as Phil Parker and worth the money.

PJ likes his internal promotion process. I think its a way to pat himself on the back and keep program cost down so he can get his next raise.

PJ would do better to forgo salary increases and hire better assistants to make he program better. Sadly, PJ's ego would never allow that to happen.
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i'd go with its more he values those that have bought into the culture and RTB. I don't think you'd see some guys come in and be willing to adopt that as an outsider and this is a way to get a known commodity in that regard (for better or worse).
 

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