All Things P.J. Fleck Rumor Mill Thread - Listed as Candidate for Other Jobs

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TurfGopher said:
I hate Harbaugh but he is a better coach than P.J. Urban Meyer to MSU would be an absolute bombshell. Do you think he still has it in him after the massive failure in Jacksonville?
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He was always a terrible fit for the NFL game and he was only in Jax for 1 season.

NIL era Urban would be tough.
 


TurfGopher said:
I hate Harbaugh but he is a better coach than P.J. Urban Meyer to MSU would be an absolute bombshell. Do you think he still has it in him after the massive failure in Jacksonville?
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Bob_Loblaw said:
He was always a terrible fit for the NFL game and he was only in Jax for 1 season.

NIL era Urban would be tough.
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I don't think it's a coincidence that the renewed speculation about Urban to MSU is happening at the same time that the Michigan story is blowing up. I didn't think he'd give that job a serious thought when his name first came up, but if he could get a huge contract and the full backing of the MSU big-money boosters at the same time that he thinks that MIchigan is about to implode, maybe he would do it.
 

Tlsbhansen said:
Define "coach" not sure his in game coaching is always elite. Or his ability to have tough conversations and get rid of a Special Teams coach. He is definitely less Kooky than Harbaugh though.
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Everyone tends to rank coaches by won-loss record, period. With no critical thinking. Like Jason Day is a genius dynamic innovator and the McNeese State coach is a lazy moron.

Harbaugh doesn't impress me. He looks and talks weaker & slower & dumber than anyone I associate with.

Fleck...is more energetic, charismatic, motivational...than anyone I know. You can just tell that he's a go-getter.
 



EasyThere Pilgrim said:
Everyone tends to rank coaches by won-loss record, period. With no critical thinking. Like Jason Day is a genius dynamic innovator and the McNeese State coach is a lazy moron.

Harbaugh doesn't impress me. He looks and talks weaker & slower & dumber than anyone I associate with.

Fleck...is more energetic, charismatic, motivational...than anyone I know. You can just tell that he's a go-getter.
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EasyThere Pilgrim said:
Everyone tends to rank coaches by won-loss record, period. With no critical thinking. Like Jason Day is a genius dynamic innovator and the McNeese State coach is a lazy moron.

Harbaugh doesn't impress me. He looks and talks weaker & slower & dumber than anyone I associate with.

Fleck...is more energetic, charismatic, motivational...than anyone I know. You can just tell that he's a go-getter.
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Harbaugh turned Stanford into a powerhouse and elevated Michigan back into one, those results matter a lot more than charisma.
 

Shouldn’t the MSU president have some concerns about Urban Meyers history with having a high number of players that ran into legal issues? MSU has had a lot of well publicized issues with staff, but a lot of player issues as well over the last five years or so.
 

btowngopher said:
Shouldn’t the MSU president have some concerns about Urban Meyers history with having a high number of players that ran into legal issues? MSU has had a lot of well publicized issues with staff, but a lot of player issues as well over the last five years or so.
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Is the other problem with Urban the strip club episode? Seems after Tucker's misdeeds (controversy over whether they are truly misdeeds, but clearly poor judgement), MSU may be looking for squeaky clean. Don't know where you can find that these days, but I imagine that will be part of the discussion.

As per Harbaugh, clearly a very good football coach both at the college and pro levels. He's the oddest card in the deck, but he knows how to coach football.
 



I have a hard time seeing Meyer taking a second tier job like Michigan state.
He would be more likely to take a job at least a half step up from that if he ever takes one again
 


Mick Turition said:
I'm a Fleck fan...and this is ridiculous. FSU or Notre Dame the only 'helmet schools' that might at some point (2-3 bad years) take a look at Fleck.
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They both have newer hirers who are doing well

FSU is ranked 4th in the polls and on the CFB as of Tuesdays ranking and ND is 15th.

MN is probably PJs ceiling
 




Gopher_In_NYC said:
They both have newer hirers who are doing well

FSU is ranked 4th in the polls and on the CFB as of Tuesdays ranking and ND is 15th.

MN is probably PJs ceiling
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He would have to have another 2019 type year to get offered a job that is clearly a step up from Minnesota

Or be willing to move laterally to like a Michigan state or Maryland or something.
 

EasyThere Pilgrim said:
He looks feeble...and his press conferences slow monotone droning on about nothing puts me to sleep. Boring.
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I know from all of your posts that you absolutely despise winning. I get that.

However, I'm talking about referring to Harbaugh as a discreet CEO. Harbaugh's problem in his career is that he's been a bull in a china shop. He has been anything but discreet.
 

btowngopher said:
Shouldn’t the MSU president have some concerns about Urban Meyers history with having a high number of players that ran into legal issues? MSU has had a lot of well publicized issues with staff, but a lot of player issues as well over the last five years or so.
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LOL.

Do we think between the football and Michigan State's basketball program that they have always been run clean? Hell, some of their former players have murdered guys, been part of fraud, different arrrests. Rape accusations by players still in the program, all kinds of things.

You think too highly of AD's and University presidents in this cutthroat power 5 business. If a hire will make them more money they will do it and not worry about any ethical concern unless their student enrollment would suffer because of it(it won't). If Urban Meyer came to them, they would basically only ask how much money it would take to land him.
 

Go Gophs said:
LOL.

Do we think between the football and Michigan State's basketball program that they have always been run clean? Hell, some of their former players have murdered guys, been part of fraud, different arrrests. Rape accusations by players still in the program, all kinds of things.

You think too highly of AD's and University presidents in this cutthroat power 5 business. If a hire will make them more money they will do it and not worry about any ethical concern unless their student enrollment would suffer because of it(it won't). If Urban Meyer came to them, they would basically only ask how much money it would take to land him.
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I’d say it depends on the school.
 


Doogie chimes in:

Darren Wolfson said that he wouldn't be surprised if Fleck's name comes up in the discussion to replace Brown at North Carolina.

"I am not suggesting that he's leaving, but I do believe that P.J. Fleck's name is going to come up for that job. I do," Wolfson said. "Maybe it will be agent-driven, but we'll sift through it this time next week. Don't be surprised if you see P.J.'s name attached to that job. We'll see a number of names go up and down the list. We'll see a number of names attached to that job, but I am just saying that I would not be shocked if P.J. Fleck's name is attached to that job."

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Report: 'Don't be surprised' if P.J. Fleck's name is connected to UNC job

It is officially coaching carousel season and Gophers head coach P.J. Fleck has already been connected to an open job.
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Go Gophers!!
 




gopherbadgerman said:
Not a horrible landing spot.
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Much easier conference to win, great place to live, low expectations, following the exact opposite of himself (old, tired, no energy), etc.

I don't want to lose Fleck, but this is a better landing spot for him than UCLA would have been.

Go Gophers!!
 

Mack was making 5 mil, PJ currently making 6. So in a lateral to downgrade move they're really going to have to pony up, particularly given how good his buyout is compared to Browns as well.
 

BleedGopher said:
Much easier conference to win, great place to live, low expectations, following the exact opposite of himself (old, tired, no energy), etc.

I don't want to lose Fleck, but this is a better landing spot for him than UCLA would have been.

Go Gophers!!
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they just fired him after going
9-5
8-5
6-5
I don't think the expectations are low as you keep working here for the forseeable future if that's your record at MN.

Think it would be a good job, but don't think it would be low expectations
 


BleedGopher said:
Much easier conference to win, great place to live, low expectations, following the exact opposite of himself (old, tired, no energy), etc.

I don't want to lose Fleck, but this is a better landing spot for him than UCLA would have been.

Go Gophers!!
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Realistic chance North Carolina end up in the B1G eventually. But at the moment any program not in the B1G/SEC is going to have to serious deep pocket donors to outbid a program from one of those conferences.
 


upnorthkid said:
they just fired him after going
9-5
8-5
6-5
I don't think the expectations are low as you keep working here for the forseeable future if that's your record at MN.

Think it would be a good job, but don't think it would be low expectations
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Mack is also 73 and by all accounts doesn't have the energy he once did. He put up those records with top 15 recruiting classes and 2 NFL QB's.

I don't think Bleed was implying that Minnesota has extremely high expectations, just that UNC isn't unreasonable either.
 


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