All Things P.J. Fleck Rumor Mill Thread - Listed as Candidate for Other Jobs

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It's been 25 years, and that was a shared title with Michigan. Call them a brand all you want, but with the exception of Tanner Morgan and maybe some of the old guys that play for BYU, virtually no college player today was even alive when that happened, and certainly no recruits would be.

They might as well be Minnesota in terms of ancient history titles.
That all may be true, but they are still a bigger brand nationwide. I'm not sure why this bothers people - I'd rather have the smaller "brand" and more successful program, which is what we have now.
 


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Are there any lakes around Lincoln? Doesn’t look like any that remotely compare to Minnetonka. Maybe they give him enough money he can dredge his own. Who knows what the future holds, but cannot see him leaving to go there.
 

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I would only worry if ND cans their coach in the next year or two because he doesn't work out as well as they thought he would. By then MN should have a Big Ten West win and we should see a bump in recruiting since PJ would've proven 2019 was not a fluke.
 



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per Joe:

After a 1-2 start to the season, Nebraska has fired head football coach Scott Frost. He was in his fifth season as head coach. The interim head coach will be Mickey Joseph. Here are potential head coach candidates for the Nebraska Cornhuskers.

1. P.J. Fleck​

P.J. Fleck started his career as a head coach out at Western Michigan. He led the Broncos to a New Year’s Six Bowl Game and posted a 30-22 overall record at the school. That was following a 1-11 start in his first season. He then took the Minnesota job in 2017. He has a 37-23 record with the Golden Gophers and had one of their best seasons in history in 2019, when they finished with 11 wins.

Fleck’s name has been on the coaching market before because of his ability to build programs. He did it at both Western Michigan and Minnesota. Nebraska could use someone like him to help return the Cornhuskers to their former glory. With more resources and a bigger brand to work with, Fleck could be the best head coach of the 21st century for Nebraska. The only question is whether he would leave one Big Ten West school for another.


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That all may be true, but they are still a bigger brand nationwide. I'm not sure why this bothers people - I'd rather have the smaller "brand" and more successful program, which is what we have now.
If you could force every person in the country to take a survey asking if they consider themselves fans of college football and to list the primary team(s) they consider themselves to follow/be fans of, I have no doubt that those listing Nebraska would be some multiple large than those listing Minnesota.

I believe that to be true, and that is fine. Would be interesting to see the results of such a survey.


Agree that I'm fine having a smaller fanbase, one that is not in the upper tier of CFB overall, if that is the "cost" of winning more games and having more overall success.
 

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If you could force every person in the country to take a survey asking if they consider themselves fans of college football and to list the primary team(s) they consider themselves to follow/be fans of, I have no doubt that those listing Nebraska would be some multiple large than those listing Minnesota.

I believe that to be true, and that is fine. Would be interesting to see the results of such a survey.


Agree that I'm fine having a smaller fanbase, one that is not in the upper tier of CFB overall, if that is the "cost" of winning more games and having more overall success.
Anyone who thinks Nebraska has a national present or following is living in the past. Maybe if the survey was only of people over 55 would they have a following outside their home state or alumni base.
 




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Are there any lakes around Lincoln? Doesn’t look like any that remotely compare to Minnetonka. Maybe they give him enough money he can dredge his own. Who knows what the future holds, but cannot see him leaving to go there.
There’s not. The best lake in Eastern Nebraska is Branched Oak Reservoir. It’s an 1800 acre chocolate-milk watered mud puddle out in the farms near Lincoln.

We can tease Nebraska about football but the real issue with living there is that it’s the worst of all worlds in terms of climate and natural resources.
 

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Nebraska is still a high level job if only because they have deep pockets and are willing to spend money. PJ or any coach in the Big 10 West isn’t going there although that would be a total Bielema move.
 

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There’s not. The best lake in Eastern Nebraska is Branched Oak Reservoir. It’s an 1800 acre chocolate-milk watered mud puddle out in the farms near Lincoln.

We can tease Nebraska about football but the real issue with living there is that it’s the worst of all worlds in terms of climate and natural resources.
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Anyone who thinks Nebraska has a national present or following is living in the past. Maybe if the survey was only of people over 55 would they have a following outside their home state or alumni base.
I think there is plenty of room for both of us to be correct. I did not claim that I think the survey would confirm they have a wide ranging "national presence". You'll have to define what you mean by that.

The core nature of college football, as compared to the NFL -- and part of what makes it interesting and fun for me -- is regionalism. So in that sense, there shouldn't be a college team that is truly "national".
 

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There’s not. The best lake in Eastern Nebraska is Branched Oak Reservoir. It’s an 1800 acre chocolate-milk watered mud puddle out in the farms near Lincoln.

We can tease Nebraska about football but the real issue with living there is that it’s the worst of all worlds in terms of climate and natural resources.
So you're saying it's like Iowa. :sick:
 


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I think there is plenty of room for both of us to be correct. I did not claim that I think the survey would confirm they have a wide ranging "national presence". You'll have to define what you mean by that.

The core nature of college football, as compared to the NFL -- and part of what makes it interesting and fun for me -- is regionalism. So in that sense, there shouldn't be a college team that is truly "national".
Your original comment suggested, at least to me, that a survey of college football fans listing teams they follow/be fans of would find that Nebraska has a sizable fan base outside of their home state and alumni base, a national presence so to speak (thanks for grammar correction). I don't think anyone outside their base follows/be fans of or really cares about Nebraska football.

Teams with "national presence" are ND, tOSU, Alabama.....helmet schools. Fans all over the nation follow them, root for/against them. Nebraska is not a helmet school

IMO a survey of college fans who follow/be fans of Nebraska or Minnesota would show about the same number for each school
 


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What makes people think Nebraska is a bigger brand than Minnesota? Is it their recent success? I would argue Minnesota is a much bigger brand nationally and historically.

Currently still holds the nation's longest active home sell-out streak, going back to 1962, in a stadium with a current capacity of over 85,000. And a nation-wide following.

Yes, Nebraska is a bigger brand.
 

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Currently still holds the nation's longest active home sell-out streak, going back to 1962, in a stadium with a current capacity of over 85,000. And a nation-wide following.

Yes, Nebraska is a bigger brand.
Sellout streak sure. Nation wide following would only be residents who left Nebraska. There are not a lot of bandwagon fans without ties to the state or university.
 

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Currently still holds the nation's longest active home sell-out streak, going back to 1962, in a stadium with a current capacity of over 85,000. And a nation-wide following.

Yes, Nebraska is a bigger brand.
Only in the minds of Nebraska fans.
 

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Only in the minds of Nebraska fans.
So if you polled fans all across America the majority would say Minnesota is a bigger brand than nebraska? Come on. There's a reason Frost and his shortcomings have garnered so much attention nationwide - nobody talked this much about Brewster and his issues.
 

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So if you polled fans all across America the majority would say Minnesota is a bigger brand than nebraska? Come on. There's a reason Frost and his shortcomings have garnered so much attention nationwide - nobody talked this much about Brewster and his issues.
Didn't say it was bigger, said about the same. When you have a dumpster fire, everyone wants to watch. Doesn't make them fan/follower of the team.
 


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Your original comment suggested, at least to me, that a survey of college football fans listing teams they follow/be fans of would find that Nebraska has a sizable fan base outside of their home state and alumni base, a national presence so to speak (thanks for grammar correction). I don't think anyone outside their base follows/be fans of or really cares about Nebraska football.

Teams with "national presence" are ND, tOSU, Alabama.....helmet schools. Fans all over the nation follow them, root for/against them. Nebraska is not a helmet school

IMO a survey of college fans who follow/be fans of Nebraska or Minnesota would show about the same number for each school
Thanks for the post! We can agree to disagree. As absurd as it may be, my wild guess is that their “fanbase” (as were hypothetically discussing here) is still multiples larger than ours. For now

Even if largely confined to the states of Neb, Iowa and say KC, Denver, and Mpls metros.
 

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5 Jim Harbaugh replacements Michigan needs if he leaves for the NFL​


5. PJ Fleck, Minnesota

Minnesota’s P.J. Fleck could Row the Boat from Minneapolis over to Ann Arbor​

If Michigan were to look at poaching a head coach in-conference, the best bet would probably have to be getting P.J. Fleck to Row the Boat from Minneapolis over to Ann Arbor. Although he has transformed the Minnesota Golden Gophers into a high-quality program over in the Big Ten West, there are obvious limitations with that particular job. However, he just might work in Ann Arbor.

Fleck’s Minnesota teams do play with a lot of confidence offensively. Moreover, he is a Midwest guy through and through. Most importantly, he had sensational success at Western Michigan previously. Although it would be highly controversial if Fleck were to replace Harbaugh at Michigan, the program is not going to drop off while it went through this period of adjustment.

However, there is chance this could end up like Dan Mullen leaving Mississippi State for Florida…


Go Gophers!!
 

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5 Jim Harbaugh replacements Michigan needs if he leaves for the NFL​


5. PJ Fleck, Minnesota

Minnesota’s P.J. Fleck could Row the Boat from Minneapolis over to Ann Arbor​

If Michigan were to look at poaching a head coach in-conference, the best bet would probably have to be getting P.J. Fleck to Row the Boat from Minneapolis over to Ann Arbor. Although he has transformed the Minnesota Golden Gophers into a high-quality program over in the Big Ten West, there are obvious limitations with that particular job. However, he just might work in Ann Arbor.

Fleck’s Minnesota teams do play with a lot of confidence offensively. Moreover, he is a Midwest guy through and through. Most importantly, he had sensational success at Western Michigan previously. Although it would be highly controversial if Fleck were to replace Harbaugh at Michigan, the program is not going to drop off while it went through this period of adjustment.

However, there is chance this could end up like Dan Mullen leaving Mississippi State for Florida…


Go Gophers!!
A lot of speculation. But just the thought of PJ leaving causes the anti PJ crowds hearts to flutter with excitement.
 

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I don't think any of the elite Big Ten programs view him as on their level. He has never even won the Big Ten West (outright) and gone to the champ game.
 

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Well, saving somebody the page flips and the ads loading...
5 PJ Fleck
4 Phil Parker
3 Dave Aranda
2 Matt Campbell
1 Todd Monken
I'd say PJ is the most attractive on that list. I'd prefer him over the other guys at Minnesota.

I do think Harbaugh will leave Michigan if somebody in the NFL gives him the job with some personnel power...which sounds likely.
 

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5 Jim Harbaugh replacements Michigan needs if he leaves for the NFL​


5. PJ Fleck, Minnesota

Minnesota’s P.J. Fleck could Row the Boat from Minneapolis over to Ann Arbor​

If Michigan were to look at poaching a head coach in-conference, the best bet would probably have to be getting P.J. Fleck to Row the Boat from Minneapolis over to Ann Arbor. Although he has transformed the Minnesota Golden Gophers into a high-quality program over in the Big Ten West, there are obvious limitations with that particular job. However, he just might work in Ann Arbor.

Fleck’s Minnesota teams do play with a lot of confidence offensively. Moreover, he is a Midwest guy through and through. Most importantly, he had sensational success at Western Michigan previously. Although it would be highly controversial if Fleck were to replace Harbaugh at Michigan, the program is not going to drop off while it went through this period of adjustment.

However, there is chance this could end up like Dan Mullen leaving Mississippi State for Florida…


Go Gophers!!
LOL Michigan isn’t going to hire PJ if Harbaugh leaves.
 




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