All Things Gophers Basketball Class of 2022 Recruiting Thread

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PhiloVance said:
In todays environment what does gpa even mean?
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well, it could be an indicator that the kid is fairly smart - or takes his class work seriously - both of which would be a positive factor in evaluating whether he is a good fit for your program.

I understand that some schools hand out grades more easily than others, but you still have to do the required work.

Let's say this - if two kids have relatively equal ability, and one has a 3.7 gpa and the other has a 2.0 gpa, could that serve as a tie-breaker in deciding which one to offer? You don't have to have great grades to be a good basketball player, but you don't necessarily want guys with the IQ of a rock, either.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
well, it could be an indicator that the kid is fairly smart - or takes his class work seriously - both of which would be a positive factor in evaluating whether he is a good fit for your program.

I understand that some schools hand out grades more easily than others, but you still have to do the required work.

Let's say this - if two kids have relatively equal ability, and one has a 3.7 gpa and the other has a 2.0 gpa, could that serve as a tie-breaker in deciding which one to offer? You don't have to have great grades to be a good basketball player, but you don't necessarily want guys with the IQ of a rock, either.
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With states and schools lowering standards a 2.0 in one school could be equal to 3.7 in another school.
 

PhiloVance said:
In todays environment what does gpa even mean?
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Miles posted his gpa on his Twitter page. I’ve seen others do this as well. Perhaps a Signal to programs that he wont have a problem getting in and won’t be an academic liability? Though in miles’ case, guessing it’s pride since he has an offer from Harvard
 

GopherOhana said:
Miles posted his gpa on his Twitter page. I’ve seen others do this as well. Perhaps a Signal to programs that he wont have a problem getting in and won’t be an academic liability? Though in miles’ case, guessing it’s pride since he has an offer from Harvard
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And Princeton wanted him in the worst way. Most importantly he lived in a home that stressed academics.
 




PhiloVance said:
With states and schools lowering standards a 2.0 in one school could be equal to 3.7 in another school.
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A little bit of an over exaggeration.

A few schools have shifted to a 5 or 12 point scale (not lowering standards, just giving a finer scale), but that can easily be checked by the coaches. Do you really think that a recruit is going to post a D average in hope of tricking the coaches?
 

It seems that everyday states and schools are lowering standards. e.g. Oregon's allowing students to graduate high school without standard proficiency in reading, writing, and math or in Baltimore students who have failed at least one class are allowed to move up to the next grade level. Because it’s not fair if some kids fail. Just a couple of examples that make me question the gpa and how prepared students are/will be for college curriculum. So I read and talked to concerned educators, I found that many students need remedial courses, in college, to cover those classes that should have been taught in h.s. In fact some consider new policies appear to be soft bigotry of low expectations.
 









<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Video of the newest Minnesota Gopher commit Pharrel Payne. Payne, aka Phranchise, is a four-star 2022 big from <a href="https://twitter.com/mn_select?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@mn_select</a> &amp; Park of Cottage Grove HS. <br><br>The <a href="https://twitter.com/PrepHoops?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@PrepHoops</a> National rankings have <a href="https://twitter.com/pharrelpayne?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@pharrelpayne</a> listed as 98th in the country. <a href="https://t.co/BFPhSWPwW3">https://t.co/BFPhSWPwW3</a></p>&mdash; Ryan James (@RyanJamesMN) <a href="">August 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 



manderson1984 said:
2 commits by September. Hopefully we can all calm down and wait for the season and rest of the class before many continues to call Ben a failure
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There will be people with their undies in a bundle until Ben starts having success on court.... And I think that'll take a few years.
 

PhiloVance said:
It seems that everyday states and schools are lowering standards. e.g. Oregon's allowing students to graduate high school without standard proficiency in reading, writing, and math or in Baltimore students who have failed at least one class are allowed to move up to the next grade level. Because it’s not fair if some kids fail. Just a couple of examples that make me question the gpa and how prepared students are/will be for college curriculum. So I read and talked to concerned educators, I found that many students need remedial courses, in college, to cover those classes that should have been taught in h.s. In fact some consider new policies appear to be soft bigotry of low expectations.
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It varies all over the place and has been going on for ever. I remember my kid and his friend talking to the head of college admittance up at UND many years ago. He said that they had to set their acceptance standards so that the average student from some ND small town could get in. Kids from the TC would have no problem getting in at all. Many of those small town kids need remedial classes in the math or sciences. For example, I had a friend in college back in the 70's at NDSU that had to take the first level of Calculus about 5 times and never made it through, he wore out 2 text books. The problem was his lack of basic algebra skills not been taught in his high school.
 





I don’t see Minnesota on this list.

 

Alright, those more in the loop than the rest of us please decode the remaining 2022 MN prospects. Aligbe is third highest rated on 247 but there is no chatter there. Payne and Carrington not top 10 in state but I love the Payne pick up. Also remember when Kendall Blue was the next Rashad Vaughn, but crickets.

1) How do folks view the remaining in state prospects in terms of talent/potential?

2)Who do folks think the Gophers have a >50/50 shot at bringing in?
 

gopherlaney said:
Alright, those more in the loop than the rest of us please decode the remaining 2022 MN prospects. Aligbe is third highest rated on 247 but there is no chatter there. Payne and Carrington not top 10 in state but I love the Payne pick up. Also remember when Kendall Blue was the next Rashad Vaughn, but crickets.

1) How do folks view the remaining in state prospects in terms of talent/potential?

2)Who do folks think the Gophers have a >50/50 shot at bringing in?
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Who was comparing Blue to Rashad Vaughn? He's never been considered a high major guy. Aligbe doesnt have many options right now, not sure he even has high majors after him at this moment. Hes definitely not the 3rd best player in state. Ola Joseph and Lee are the next 2 players in state. Ola Joseph will be a Gopher soon and I think he'll be the last in state guy they go after.
 

whalenfan said:
Who was comparing Blue to Rashad Vaughn? He's never been considered a high major guy. Aligbe doesnt have many options right now, not sure he even has high majors after him at this moment. Hes definitely not the 3rd best player in state. Ola Joseph and Lee are the next 2 players in state. Ola Joseph will be a Gopher soon and I think he'll be the last in state guy they go after.
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Prince Aligbe? Not many options? Gophers mens basketball has sunk to the point where we get psyched about 0 stars because we think our local sports writers know more about top talent than people who get paid to rank players and the top programs who recruit them.
 

SanDiegoGopherFan said:
Prince Aligbe? Not many options? Gophers mens basketball has sunk to the point where we get psyched about 0 stars because we think our local sports writers know more about top talent than people who get paid to rank players and the top programs who recruit them.
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I'm not even sure what you're saying here but Prince wont be rated anywhere close to where he is now when they update. Hes not that good and schools have backed off. All his offers came a couple years ago when he was a promising youngster but he hasnt developed at all and others have passed him.
 

SanDiegoGopherFan said:
Prince Aligbe? Not many options? Gophers mens basketball has sunk to the point where we get psyched about 0 stars because we think our local sports writers know more about top talent than people who get paid to rank players and the top programs who recruit them.
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Are you seriously saying you are not excited about Payne because of his lack of stars, but you want Aligbe because he has more stars? Are you seriously saying that?
 


SanDiegoGopherFan said:
Prince Aligbe? Not many options? Gophers mens basketball has sunk to the point where we get psyched about 0 stars because we think our local sports writers know more about top talent than people who get paid to rank players and the top programs who recruit them.
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So you think carrington and payne are 0 stars? Not good players?
 

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