All Things Gophers 2022-23 Schedule Thread





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So far Mississippi State, Chicago State, and Alcorn State?

And St. Francis(NY). Probably looking at 3 +300 ranked teams next year, unless Alcorn can duplicate what they did last season, in their conference, but odds are they aren't winning 16 conference games again(including SWAC tournament)
 


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Given that we are most likely going to be paired up with a crappy ACC team, and Miss St is rebuilding with a first year coach, we really should have tried to schedule better than this.
 



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Given that we are most likely going to be paired up with a crappy ACC team, and Miss St is rebuilding with a first year coach, we really should have tried to schedule better than this.

You do remember, don't you, that we have a program coming off 3 consecutive losing seasons? The way things look now, we'll be starting a freshman guard, a point guard who doesn't shoot so well, and at least one player who is coming off a significant injury. I'll admit that it's going to be a bit hard to be very enthusiastic about watching games against Chicago State, Alcorn State, and St. Francis (NY) but I'll take the crappy ACC team (that may not be so crappy next season) and the rebuilding Mississippi State team.
 



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You do remember, don't you, that we have a program coming off 3 consecutive losing seasons? The way things look now, we'll be starting a freshman guard, a point guard who doesn't shoot so well, and at least one player who is coming off a significant injury. I'll admit that it's going to be a bit hard to be very enthusiastic about watching games against Chicago State, Alcorn State, and St. Francis (NY) but I'll take the crappy ACC team (that may not be so crappy next season) and the rebuilding Mississippi State team.

Yeah, I'm a bit shocked that anyone is complaining about scheduling. We are turning the majority of the roster over and working a couple injured guys back in. It doesn't seem like the year to be taking on a tough non-conference schedule. Ultimately, as it is every year pretty much regardless of our non-con, us making the tournament will come down to going .500+ in the Big Ten.
 

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You do remember, don't you, that we have a program coming off 3 consecutive losing seasons? The way things look now, we'll be starting a freshman guard, a point guard who doesn't shoot so well, and at least one player who is coming off a significant injury. I'll admit that it's going to be a bit hard to be very enthusiastic about watching games against Chicago State, Alcorn State, and St. Francis (NY) but I'll take the crappy ACC team (that may not be so crappy next season) and the rebuilding Mississippi State team.

What we've done the last 3 seasons is completely irrelevant, considering the roster turnover. The B1G projects to take a step back(given all the guys leaving), and given the additions to the roster, I think being a bubble team is very much in play. We know how the committee treats bubble teams with bad OOC SoS. I'd rather take the prospects of losing to a good mid-major team over beating teams that will finish +300 in the metrics. Piling up wins against this level of competition doesn't mean anything. And if by chance any of them are close(not that I think these will), it destroys our NET rating.

As for the challenge, I'd be shocked if we don't play one of BC, Pitt, GT or NC State. Those team's will be very bad.
 

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What we've done the last 3 seasons is completely irrelevant, considering the roster turnover. The B1G projects to take a step back(given all the guys leaving), and given the additions to the roster, I think being a bubble team is very much in play. We know how the committee treats bubble teams with bad OOC SoS. I'd rather take the prospects of losing to a good mid-major team over beating teams that will finish +300 in the metrics. Piling up wins against this level of competition doesn't mean anything. And if by chance any of them are close(not that I think these will), it destroys our NET rating.

As for the challenge, I'd be shocked if we don't play one of BC, Pitt, GT or NC State. Those team's will be very bad.

Those games mean something for gaining team cohesiveness and allowing them to get used to playing together. But in the end, this is only 3 out of 11-12 non-con games. Still quite possible that more mid-major games are coming
 

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Those games mean something for gaining team cohesiveness and allowing them to get used to playing together. But in the end, this is only 3 out of 11-12 non-con games. Still quite possible that more mid-major games are coming

We already know half the OOC games. Miss St, bad ACC team, St Francis(NY), Chicago State, and Alcorn State. I'm not advocating playing a Gonzaga-type OOC schedule, but playing teams, in theory, we should beat by 30+ doesn't do anything IMO. Overall, scheduling games against the bottom tenth of D1 is a losing proposition, IMO, no matter what type of team we are projected to field.

My guess is we'll fill out the rest of the schedule with non-P6 teams, but there's a big difference between scheduling a mid-major and the lowest of low majors.
 



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We always have some cupcakes...only questionable if ALL we schedule are 300 neighborhood level teams.
Maybe Ben was intoxicated by his non conference record last year and wants to insure we can duplicate it this season?
 

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Given that we are most likely going to be paired up with a crappy ACC team, and Miss St is rebuilding with a first year coach, we really should have tried to schedule better than this.
We haven't played in the Gavett Games in three years, haven't had a home game in it since 2016 (St. Johns) Imagine we are due for that event, believe the rule was every Big Ten team needs to participate five times and we've only played in three. I do wonder if will go on the road again for the ACC Challenge, since we player two straight at home in 2019 and 2020.
 

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We always have some cupcakes...only questionable if ALL we schedule are 300 neighborhood level teams.
Maybe Ben was intoxicated by his non conference record last year and wants to insure we can duplicate it this season?
As we saw, non-conference play did not dictate conference results last year. If we have successful campaign in conference, no one will care about our soft non-con schedule. I thought we were sick of being a bubble team with 8 conference wins?
 

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What we know
St. Francis (NY)
Chicago State
Alcorn State
Mississippi State
ACC Opponent Either Home/Away
Most Likely a Big East Opponent (we are due) Home/Away

So we have four, maybe five games if we play in an event with an exempt game. Guessing they're working on some sort of neutral site event, if it's two games like last year, then will have two games left to schedule. If we end up in a three game tournament, there's usually a fourth game attached to it, but those are usually created a couple years in advance. ACC hope we get someone different, I would be fine with NC State or GT, sick of BC, don't want to see Pitt two years in a row. Big East, I bet we end up with Xavier or Marquette. Wouldn't mind team like Illinois State, George Mason, San Jose State or College of Charleston. Non con with Minnesota connections or program that's recruited the state. Maybe one of the Dakota schools or Denver, Lamar, those schools tend to want to play games in their players home states
 

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End of the day, we will have 20 plus games against the Big Ten, plenty of quad one opportunities, just need to go 8-2, 9-1, .500 in the league and will be in good shape. If you don't have bad losses, the committee rewards you for good wins and the Big Ten will have plenty
 

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What we've done the last 3 seasons is completely irrelevant, considering the roster turnover. The B1G projects to take a step back(given all the guys leaving), and given the additions to the roster, I think being a bubble team is very much in play. We know how the committee treats bubble teams with bad OOC SoS. I'd rather take the prospects of losing to a good mid-major team over beating teams that will finish +300 in the metrics. Piling up wins against this level of competition doesn't mean anything. And if by chance any of them are close(not that I think these will), it destroys our NET rating.

As for the challenge, I'd be shocked if we don't play one of BC, Pitt, GT or NC State. Those team's will be very bad.

So, what we've done for the past three seasons is completely irrelevant but what those ACC teams you list have done for the past three season is completely predictive? Got it! We've had lots of turnover but BC, Pitt, GT, and NC State have had no turnover and no player improvement.
 

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I think both St Francis and Chicago St are coming here to play UST as well… UST played both those schools on the road last year….
Smart scheduling by the buy teams. One trip. I doubt St. Thomas is paying much though.
 

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End of the day, we will have 20 plus games against the Big Ten, plenty of quad one opportunities, just need to go 8-2, 9-1, .500 in the league and will be in good shape. If you don't have bad losses, the committee rewards you for good wins and the Big Ten will have plenty
I think bad losses are over emphasized by fans and observers. Quality wins much more important. The sub 300 games bug me. I don’t think you learn much at all from them. We don’t need an entire slate of top 100 games but getting 150-225 gets you a much better schedule than those miserable borderline D-1 teams. We owe Alcorn since we didn’t play them last year. We should be able to do better than Chicago State and St. Francis Brooklyn, though.
 

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We haven't played in the Gavett Games in three years, haven't had a home game in it since 2016 (St. Johns) Imagine we are due for that event, believe the rule was every Big Ten team needs to participate five times and we've only played in three. I do wonder if will go on the road again for the ACC Challenge, since we player two straight at home in 2019 and 2020.

Yeah, I was curious about the GG as well. If we do, I'd imagine we'll be paired with one of Georgetown, DePaul or Butler. I'd imagine it would be a home game. And you may be right about getting another away game in the challenge.
 

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So, what we've done for the past three seasons is completely irrelevant but what those ACC teams you list have done for the past three season is completely predictive? Got it! We've had lots of turnover but BC, Pitt, GT, and NC State have had no turnover and no player improvement.

None of those teams have a combination of players like Battle and Garcia. These team's didn't improve like we have in the portal, I'm not saying we did great, but adding a top 15 is huge. Hell, we were better than all these teams last year, and our roster is improved this season.

Just to break it down. Pitt has three unranked HS kids coming in and as a whole their transfers aren't as good. BC has, on avg, about the same type of HS class we do. They don't have the same level of transfers coming in. GT has no HS kids coming in and their transfers aren't as good as ours. NC State has one 3 star HS kid coming and and a transfer class that's not as good as ours.

We should absolutely be better than 4 teams, and I would expect those teams to finish as the bottom 4 in the league. We'll see if I'm correct about it. Hopefully, we get paired with like a Clemson, UL, Wake Forest, or Cuse, but I already know that ain't happening.
 

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Are we going to play in a tourney again like last year playing wku and princeton? Will some random team play us at home twice in a row like loyola Marymount? Hopefully we can develop some players more against these 300+ teams, we didn't take advantage of that last year. Would be neat to play BC and Prince Aligbe
 

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Per Twitter Big East schedule tracker White & Blue Review, Butler, DePaul, Marquette, and Seton Hall are the most likely Big East road teams this season. I'd expect it to be one of the Midwestern schools coming to visit Williams Arena. Marquette would be cool (Garcia vs. his original school).

Illinois, Indiana (road), Iowa, Michigan State, and Nebraska are rumored to be other Big Ten participants, with 2 others TBD.
 

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Per Twitter Big East schedule tracker White & Blue Review, Butler, DePaul, Marquette, and Seton Hall are the most likely Big East road teams this season. I'd expect it to be one of the Midwestern schools coming to visit Williams Arena. Marquette would be cool (Garcia vs. his original school).

Illinois, Indiana (road), Iowa, Michigan State, and Nebraska are rumored to be other Big Ten participants, with 2 others TBD.

Interesting because SH played at Michigan last year so that would be two years in a row on the road. SH at Maryland would be a fun game if Maryland plays in the GG. I would expect us to get Butler/DePaul but would be cool if Marquette came to The Barn.
 

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Interesting because SH played at Michigan last year so that would be two years in a row on the road. SH at Maryland would be a fun game if Maryland plays in the GG. I would expect us to get Butler/DePaul but would be cool if Marquette came to The Barn.
Since we just played DePaul and Butler quite recently (DePaul wasn't in the GG), I would prefer Marquette or Xavier.
 


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Gonna guess we're on the opposite side of UNLV here. Hopefully we get Southern Illinois as our first game, assuming it's not UNLV. Cal Baptist was 225 in KenPom last year. Would be another huge ding against our SOS.
 

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So far:

UNLV/So. Illinois/Cal Baptist | November 21/23
Mississippi State | December 11th
Chicago State | December 22nd
Alcorn State | December 29th
Saint Francis(NY) | TBD
ACC/Big 10 Challenge | TBD

Gavitt Games?
2 more buy games?
 




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