All Things 2025 Minnesota Vikings In-Season Thread

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Slim Tubby said:
What if it becomes very apparent the rest of the season that we will need to spend a FRP on yet another QB next April?
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Can’t say there’s much of anything to “love” in this draft to pull the plug on a guy you’ll have like 12 games of data on and have been pretty firm on thinking he can be fixed. Even Ponder got 3 years
 

upnorthkid said:
Can’t say there’s much of anything to “love” in this draft to pull the plug on a guy you’ll have like 12 games of data on and have been pretty firm on thinking he can be fixed. Even Ponder got 3 years
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On paper, it looks like an extremely weak QB class and very strong defensively.

My point is that I wouldn't give KAM the chance to make another QB evaluation and/or draft selection if JJM proves to be a bust. The guy has wasted a TON of Draft capital with nothing to show for it.
 


Slim Tubby said:
What if it becomes very apparent the rest of the season that we will need to spend a FRP on yet another QB next April?
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Kwesi really needs McCarthy and Turner to show progress.
If no progress from these two and we only win a couple more games, I think most fans would understand Kwesi being let go. Let someone else run the 2026 draft.
 


golf said:
Kwesi really needs McCarthy and Turner to show progress.
If no progress from these two and we only win a couple more games, I think most fans would understand Kwesi being let go. Let someone else run the 2026 draft.
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That's not happening, no matter how the rest of the season goes.

QB's typically get 20 games before you really know. JJM will have 12 under his belt by the end of the season.

Turner, finally getting a start in place of Greenard, had 7 tck, a sack, 2 TFL's and a PD.

The job of the GM is to assemble the roster and do it within the confines of the cap. Every time someone gets pissed about Lewis Cine or Booth, they need to remember Aaron Jones, Van Ginkel, Greenard, Byron Murphy, Eric Wilson, J. Mason, I. Rodgers, Cashman; not to mention a bunch of late round success and UDFA's that have contributed.

Cine couldn't even make it onto the field. That's a bust, for which I still blame DC Ed Donatell and the previous scouting department. Turner is so far from a bust right now, it's ridiculous.

This Front Office and coaching staff won 34 games in their first 3 years. Nobody is going anywhere anytime soon, whether we like it or not.
 

Border Gopher said:
And he didn’t throw much in college. He is very raw
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Why did we draft him?

You can hate Sean Payton all you want ... and that's a very good person to hate .... but he passed on McCarthy for Nix. Falcons passed on McCarthy.


We wanted Maye and supposedly made an offer ... but we were too cheap to go all in.
 


GophersInIowa said:
I’m not suggesting pulling the plug either. But you better know JJM is ready if you’re going to try to win now. This is the worst possible situation.
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Exactly correct.

Worst possible way to do it. This roster won't last more than maybe one more year.


That's not how you do it with an unknown commodity at QB.

OR

You sign a vet to try to win now and let the kid sit and learn.


Looking like this is becoming a blunder.



Love the last drive. Was awesome. But we lost because of how awful the rest of the 58 mins football was on offense.
 




forever a gopher said:
I’m not excusing the drops. But does it get into the receivers heads when JJM is airmailing throws left and right, or does his best Athan impersonation and can only throw a 100mph fastball, no matter the situation?

The drops have noticeably gone up while JJM is the QB.
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There were some legit drops, the Hockenson one in particular.

But you are absolutely correct. Throwing a fastball is harder to catch.
 


Ope3 said:
Well they did draft and aquire enough talent to go 3-2 in Road/Neutral games.

Winning at Home should in theory be easier, but if they just equaled that they would be 6-4 and in solid position to advance to the Playoffs.
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Trying to focus on road vs home is meaningless
 




upnorthkid said:
Can’t say there’s much of anything to “love” in this draft to pull the plug on a guy you’ll have like 12 games of data on and have been pretty firm on thinking he can be fixed. Even Ponder got 3 years
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Mendoza? Or maybe we'd never have a good enough pick to get him
 






Slim Tubby said:
What if it becomes very apparent the rest of the season that we will need to spend a FRP on yet another QB next April?
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They will give him next year as well, if need be. They’re a wee bit more patient than the average fan.
 
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Insomnia post and wild stat from the game, via Lewis’ game column in The Athletic -

Until the Vikings’ go-ahead drive, which began with 3:14 remaining in the fourth quarter, McCarthy hadn’t completed a pass in the second half.

You don’t win many games that way.
 


GopherGrit said:
So in 10 games we've only been in 3rd/4th and short ... what 25 times?

Seems like a very insignificant thing to try to cherry pick, then.
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Having to punt, kick a FG, or turnover on downs an extra 2.5 per games seems rather significant to me.
 

GopherGrit said:
Trying to focus on road vs home is meaningless
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Ultimately you are what your record is, so in that sense correct.

But before the season if one said JJMs first 5 NFL starts 2 are going to be against Division foes (CHI & DET) on the road and the Vikes are going to Win BOTH of those, one would also think they would also win at least ONE in the other 3 (ATL, BAL & CHI) at the Zygi Dome. Quite an anomaly.

Just odd, that's all.
 

Slim Tubby said:
On paper, it looks like an extremely weak QB class and very strong defensively.

My point is that I wouldn't give KAM the chance to make another QB evaluation and/or draft selection if JJM proves to be a bust. The guy has wasted a TON of Draft capital with nothing to show for it.
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Patience Grasshopper 😄
 

Another alarming stat. For whatever reason, the Flores defense just hasn't produced many turnovers really since he's been in Minnesota. This year has been brutal.

I thought the missed Sacks yesterday were just massive. Those are drive-changing plays, and guys just couldn't wrap up Williams.

 

Ope3 said:
Ultimately you are what your record is, so in that sense correct.

But before the season if one said JJMs first 5 NFL starts 2 are going to be against Division foes (CHI & DET) on the road and the Vikes are going to Win BOTH of those, one would also think they would also win at least ONE in the other 3 (ATL, BAL & CHI) at the Zygi Dome. Quite an anomaly.

Just odd, that's all.
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Allowing Atlanta to rush for 218 yards on 39 carries, at Home, was just inexcusable. Turns out JJM got hurt that game as well, which didn't help.

Yesterday was just plain bad. The Bears are not good. Vikings had no business losing that game.
 

Ogie Ogilthorpe said:
Allowing Atlanta to rush for 218 yards on 39 carries, at Home, was just inexcusable. Turns out JJM got hurt that game as well, which didn't help.

Yesterday was just plain bad. The Bears are not good. Vikings had no business losing that game.
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Agree, not pinning all 3 Home losses on JJM.

Even yesterday, while the Defense ultimately only gave up 19 pts (credit the unit for keeping them in the game) there were issues yesterday. Especially with the ability to tackle. Zero takeaways as well, which you have hit on in other posts.
 

GopherGrit said:
You sign a vet to try to win now and let the kid sit and learn.

Looking like this is becoming a blunder.

Love the last drive. Was awesome. But we lost because of how awful the rest of the 58 mins football was on offense.
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The Vet QB they did sign got the stuffing pounded out of him and wound up in the IR for the rest of the year. To think any other QB especially those in their 40s wouldn't have likely had the same fate is foolhardy.

Plus the QB does not solve the issues on Defense.
 

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