All Things 2025 Minnesota Vikings In-Season Thread



So the HC has the authority to make that tradešŸ¤”.

Interesting theory 🄳
I'd be surprised if Stefanski didn't have some say in personnel decisions, especially on offense. He's a very good coach despite working for a highly dysfunctional organization.
 

Some HCs might have that authority, especially when the Owners are morons.
Yes, I realize that, but I was specifically responding regarding Stefanski having that type of organizational control. I thought that was clear, my bad that I didn’t use a this coach vs. the coach.

Historically, that type of gravitas is reserved for the Belicheck/Carroll/Mike Shanahan (coaches with rings) or big swinging Ds like Chip Kelly coming in from college to a morbid franchise-see link below.



Do you know how many currently have that type of responsibility? Feel free to post a link/source.

If I’m proved incorrect and Stefanski has those responsibilities, I will admit I’m wrong and dust off my mea culpa, ā€œI could be wrong, I often am.ā€ šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø
 
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I'd be surprised if Stefanski didn't have some say in personnel decisions, especially on offense. He's a very good coach despite working for a highly dysfunctional organization.
See my post above regarding specific examples from a third party source and the level of coaches who have had that type of control in the past, FWIW šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø
 


Yes, I realize that, but I was specifically responding regarding Stefanski having that type of organizational control. I thought that was clear, my bad that I didn’t use a this coach vs. the coach.

Historically, that type of gravitas is reserved for the Belicheck/Carroll/Mike Shanahan (coaches with rings) or big swinging Ds like Chip Kelly coming in from college to a morbid franchise-see link below.



Do you know how many currently have that type of responsibility? Feel free to post a link/source.

If I’m proved incorrect and Stefanski has those responsibilities, I will admit I’m wrong and dust off my mea culpa, ā€œI could be wrong, I often am.ā€ šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

You did not need to clarify anything nor apologize. I understood perfectly.

My response was: "Some HCs might have that authority, especially when the Owners are morons."

The Owners of Stefanski's franchise are the poster children for that description.
 

You did not need to clarify anything nor apologize. I understood perfectly.
Now, I know; I’d rather error on the side of over communicating vs. making assumptionsšŸ˜€

My response was: "Some HCs might have that authority, especially when the Owners are morons."

The Owners of Stefanski's franchise are the poster children for that description.
So you’re guessing he may, but have no definitive proof -it’s crystal clear now.
 

Now, I know; I’d rather error on the side of over communicating vs. making assumptionsšŸ˜€


So you’re guessing he may, but have no definitive proof -it’s crystal clear now.

Correct. Even if in theory he does not have the authority, I could easily see Stefanski doing an end run to the Owner and ask for such a maneuver.

The whole QB position has been a circus with getting rid of Mayfield, foisting Watson on Stefanski, ditching Flacco after he took him to the playoffs...good luck making sense of the decision making tree in that franchise.
 
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Correct. Even if in theory he does not have the authority, I could easily see Stefanski doing an end run to the Owner and ask for such a maneuver.

The whole QB position has been a circus with getting rid of Mayfield, foisting Watson on him Stefanski, ditching Flacco after he took him to the playoffs...good luck making sense of the decision making tree in that franchise.
I’m happy for Baker, always liked him in college and glad he found a good home.

The Browns fans deserve so much more.
 



When you consider that:

* The Vikings have the oldest roster in the NFL

* They have literally crapped the bed in our recent Drafts denying the current roster of young, cap friendly talent

* Have huge deferred cap hits coming next season with other aging veterans needing new deals

* Have essentially a Rookie QB that's only proven to be injury prone as of yet

A person could make a strong argument that we're far closer to a full rebuild than we are being considered a true contending team.

KAM's position as GM could certainly come under fire sooner rather than later.
 

When you consider that:

* The Vikings have the oldest roster in the NFL

* They have literally crapped the bed in our recent Drafts denying the current roster of young, cap friendly talent

* Have huge deferred cap hits coming next season with other aging veterans needing new deals

* Have essentially a Rookie QB that's only proven to be injury prone as of yet

A person could make a strong argument that we're far closer to a full rebuild than we are being considered a true contending team.

KAM's position as GM could certainly come under fire sooner rather than later.

Why would just KAM and not KOC come under fire? Any quality GM is going to want to bring in their own guy.

They have yet to win a playoff game.
 

Why would just KAM and not KOC come under fire? Any quality GM is going to want to bring in their own guy.

They have yet to win a playoff game.
KOC has one of the highest winning %'s among active coaches and just won coach of the year last year and got a big contract extension. His seat is the furthest thing from hot.
 

KOC has one of the highest winning %'s among active coaches and just won coach of the year last year and got a big contract extension. His seat is the furthest thing from hot.
No argument. Neither is KAM's based on that same logic (with regards to the winning percentage).

The guy that picked KOC is connected. If KAM is let go, the replacement has to have the full authority to bring in their own coach.
 



No argument. Neither is KAM's based on that same logic (with regards to the winning percentage).
KAM's bad drafts have him in a warmer spot, but I believe he also got an extension so he's at least a year away from any real heat.
 

KAM's bad drafts have him in a warmer spot, but I believe he also got an extension so he's at least a year away from any real heat.
A year away would be 5 seasons.

If KOC has not won a playoff game by then, his spot should also be warm, especially if that means he has failed to developed JJM.
 

When you consider that:

* The Vikings have the oldest roster in the NFL

* They have literally crapped the bed in our recent Drafts denying the current roster of young, cap friendly talent

* Have huge deferred cap hits coming next season with other aging veterans needing new deals

* Have essentially a Rookie QB that's only proven to be injury prone as of yet

A person could make a strong argument that we're far closer to a full rebuild than we are being considered a true contending team.

KAM's position as GM could certainly come under fire sooner rather than later.

With all due respect, I think you're kinda off the mark across the board here. As far as the age of the roster, I've no doubt that Harrison Smith, Adam Thielen (basically a bandaid) and the 38-yr old long snapper are throwing that average way, way out of whack. Some perspective is warranted there.

The core offensive players are basically all under 27 yrs old.

The drafts haven't been that bad, and they've been one of the more successful teams when it comes to UDFA's. Gotta remember some of those picks went to get Hock and Turner, and Turner is only 22 yrs old and getting better every week. Donovan Jackson appears to be the real deal too.

Most of the cap hits that are coming next year are structured to be re-done next spring, almost all of the big hits are going to be restructured. That's why you don't really see any of the Vikings beat writers throwing their arms up about next year's cap; they know it's right in line with where they want to be.

McCarthy? I think it's a little early for the label "injury prone", but we can toss that in the "Wait and See" category if you really want.

Opinions vary, but I couldn't be much happier with where the roster is at right now. The only real disappointment I have at this point is that it certainly appears that the Ryan Kelly signing won't be quite the splash it was when it happened. Hopefully it gets better.

Although the same people who are probably bitching about the Kelly signing were very likely the same ones bitching about why they hadn't moved on from Bradbury and upgraded the Center position. There's some folks there's no pleasing
 

Why would just KAM and not KOC come under fire? Any quality GM is going to want to bring in their own guy.
In general, I agree completely, but could a new GM identify a better available HC prospect than KOC?

I think KAM just signed an extension so he's probably not going anywhere but you simply can't look past his horrific Draft history and the fact that outside of Rodgers, his FA signings this year appear to be an unmitigated disaster thus far.

If JJM proves to be a dud, this team that was built to win now might need to be dismantled with a full reboot and KAM might not get the chance to oversee that. I personally wouldn't give him another shot.
 




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