All Things 2025 Minnesota Twins In-Season Thread

[coolhandgopher]

Not great Bob.

Ehh…coming from a guy who was the centerpiece of one of the more regrettable trades in recent Twins history, who missed a year and a half due to Tommy John surgery and whose ERA hovered around 5.00 when he did pitch for the Twins, I am dubious about putting much stock in what he says. It’s like Laquon Treadwell praising the Falcons set-up after leaving the Vikings (to be fair to Treadwell, I don’t believe he ever voiced those opinions to the media).

Of course, it now seems likely that Paddack will turn into ‘84 Rick Sutcliffe and carry the Tigers to the pennant, with their fans asking the question, “Tarik who?”

 

[GophersInIowa]

They got 2 top 100 prospects, which is what they were asking for.

Now that Duran is gone I've moved to just blow it up. There's no point in caring about this team again until they are sold.

One is barely top 100. The catcher is a nice pickup but still several years away. With multiple teams in on him, was expecting more.

Some good perspective from Gleeman.

 

[GophersInIowa]

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

One is barely top 100. The catcher is a nice pickup but still several years away. With multiple teams in on him, was expecting more.

Some good perspective from Gleeman.

Be interesting to see if/what else follows.

Great thing about relievers is their fairly easy to replace compared to starters and Jax or Varland might be able to move up a slot each.

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

I respect Passan and he isn’t hyperbolic IMO.

 

[Breakin' The Plane]

One is barely top 100. The catcher is a nice pickup but still several years away. With multiple teams in on him, was expecting more.

Some good perspective from Gleeman.

Entirely possible this is the best offer they got. But trading a player that did not absolutely need to be traded this season with about 24 hours of negotiation time left leaves the door wide open for speculation.

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

It's fine to be an optimist. Sid Hartman always believed the Gophers were going to the Rose Bowl and defended every local coach from the day they were hired to the day they were fired.

I'm optimistic when there's something to be optimistic about. There's reasons to be optimistic about the Vikings, Gopher football, the Wolves and even Gopher basketball, sort of.

The Twins, as currently constructed from ownership to front office to the roster give little reason to be optimistic. It's a sad, hard fall from only two years ago. The only thing that can really change it starts with selling the team.

I think a new manager/approach a make a world of difference - I think the cupboard’s as bare as you.

Maybe the reality lies somewhere in between

 

[howeda7]

One is barely top 100. The catcher is a nice pickup but still several years away. With multiple teams in on him, was expecting more.

Some good perspective from Gleeman.

We can't judge it specifically for a long time, but two of an organizations top 6 prospects for a reliever is a pretty good deal. I predict Duran will have Tommy John Surgery before the end of 2027.

 

[GophersInIowa]

 

[Breakin' The Plane]

We can't judge it specifically for a long time, but two of an organizations top 6 prospects for a reliever is a pretty good deal. I predict Duran will have Tommy John Surgery before the end of 2027.

For comparison, the Cardinals closer was dealt to the Mets for their 6th and 15th prospects, plus another throw-in. And he's 31 and a free agent at the end of the year. Reports were out there that Philly was looking for controllable assets. At the very least, they should have gotten a couple other lottery ticket type prospects thrown in to sweeten the deal.

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

For comparison, the Cardinals closer was dealt to the Mets for their 6th and 15th prospects, plus another throw-in. And he's 31 and a free agent at the end of the year. Reports were out there that Philly was looking for controllable assets. At the very least, they should have gotten a couple other lottery ticket type prospects thrown in to sweeten the deal.

Ironically IIRC Duran was essentially a “throw in” at the time, low level minor leaguer without a huge profile. Cano definitely was to the Os, as he wasn’t a Top 30 prospect at the time of the deal or previous to it.

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

Will there ever be another hitter as good as Gwynn?

Per this clip with Sheffield, they had 1200 ABs together as teammates and Gwynn strike out 17 times and Sheffield 35 times.

Tony Gwynn's ultimate hitting SECRET ð

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[Ope3]

Will there ever be another hitter as good as Gwynn?

Per this clip with Sheffield, they had 1200 ABs together as teammates and Gwynn strike out 17 times and Sheffield 35 times.

Tony Gwynn's ultimate hitting SECRET ð

youtube.com

It's amazing how similar the stats are for Gwynn & Carew:

Tony Gwynn Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com

Check out the latest Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More of Tony Gwynn. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, bats, throws, school and more on Baseball-reference.com

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Rod Carew Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com

Check out the latest Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More of Rod Carew. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, bats, throws, school and more on Baseball-reference.com

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Hits, OB%, Slugging & SBs all pretty close.

Carew struck out quite a bit more, but also drew a bit more BBs.

 

[coolhandgopher]

Ehh…coming from a guy who was the centerpiece of one of the more regrettable trades in recent Twins history, who missed a year and a half due to Tommy John surgery and whose ERA hovered around 5.00 when he did pitch for the Twins, I am dubious about putting much stock in what he says. It’s like Laquon Treadwell praising the Falcons set-up after leaving the Vikings (to be fair to Treadwell, I don’t believe he ever voiced those opinions to the media).

Of course, it now seems likely that Paddack will turn into ‘84 Rick Sutcliffe and carry the Tigers to the pennant, with their fans asking the question, “Tarik who?”

On cue, Paddack’s first start with the Tigers produces the following line: 6 innings, 3 hits, 1 run, no walks, 5 strikeouts.

 

[Breakin' The Plane]

Sounds like the dream to get rid of Correa is unlikely. Houston wanted the Twins to pick up about half of what he's still owed (50 million) and wanted the Twins to include an outfielder too. The Twins refused.

 

[TruthSeeker]

The Duran trade was smart. He's already losing velocity, and his K rate is down.

He could become am average reliever before team control is up. I think it's a great, sell high trade.

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

It's amazing how similar the stats are for Gwynn & Carew:

Tony Gwynn Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com

Check out the latest Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More of Tony Gwynn. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, bats, throws, school and more on Baseball-reference.com

www.baseball-reference.com

Rod Carew Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com

Check out the latest Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More of Rod Carew. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, bats, throws, school and more on Baseball-reference.com

www.baseball-reference.com

Hits, OB%, Slugging & SBs all pretty close.

Carew struck out quite a bit more, but also drew a bit more BBs.

Would much rather watch them at the dish than the current iteration of swing from your keister hitters

 

[TNGophfan]

A's just picked up #3 prospect in baseball for 2 MLB players - a starter and a top reliever. Pretty nice return.

 

[Ope3]

Would much rather watch them at the dish than the current iteration of swing from your keister hitters

Give me Carew & Gwynn any day of the week, over the HR-BB-K guys. Add Ichiro too for the trifecta.

 

[From the Parkinglot]

I think a new manager/approach a make a world of difference - I think the cupboard’s as bare as you.

Maybe the reality lies somewhere in between

Blow it up.

 

[howeda7]

For comparison, the Cardinals closer was dealt to the Mets for their 6th and 15th prospects, plus another throw-in. And he's 31 and a free agent at the end of the year. Reports were out there that Philly was looking for controllable assets. At the very least, they should have gotten a couple other lottery ticket type prospects thrown in to sweeten the deal.

Maybe. But extra lottery tickets mean someone else in your minor leagues gets released. Getting extra bodies just to get extra bodies isn't valuable.

 

[howeda7]

Sounds like the dream to get rid of Correa is unlikely. Houston wanted the Twins to pick up about half of what he's still owed (50 million) and wanted the Twins to include an outfielder too. The Twins refused.

They should. He's not living up to his contract. But it's definitely not worth eating half of it just to get rid of him.

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

Blow it up.

FYI -the conversation was regarding the cumulative talent level of the team/farm system.

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

They should. He's not living up to his contract. But it's definitely not worth eating half of it just to get rid of him.

He also has a no trade clause, so the buyer has the leverage.

 

[howeda7]

Would rather have extended him

 

[howeda7]

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

Yes the Twins will trade either Jax or Ryan by the deadline.

Anyone agree or disagree with this unscientific take?

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

Would rather have extended him

Per this report from MLB, Bader fetched two prospects, including their #12 prospect, an OF

Phillies add Bader to OF mix in 2nd trade with Twins (source)

The Phillies are acquiring veteran outfielder Harrison Bader in a trade with the Twins, a source told MLB.com's Todd Zolecki on Thursday. The teams have not confirmed the deal. Philadelphia is sending outfielder Hendry Mendez (Phillies' No. 12 prospect) and righty Geremy Villoria to Minnesota in...

www.mlb.com

 

[Breakin' The Plane]

Is the mythical new ownership group OK with trading away reliable bullpen arms on affordable contracts?

 

[From the Parkinglot]

FYI -the conversation was regarding the cumulative talent level of the team/farm system.

My bad.