All Things 2025 Minnesota Twins In-Season Thread

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Ope3 said:
Uhh, where was that ever claimed that Jeffers would "bring a massive return in a trade"? Certainly not by me.
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Why are we so eager to trade him if he's meh and it's a position we have zero depth?
 


Breakin' The Plane said:
Oh, I don't like this one bit. It turns out Paddack isn't the only playoff-tested bulldog that those shifty weasels traded to the Tigers.
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If we didn't give them any $$, the Tigers are eating ~$2.5 million of Paddock salary and probably around a $1 million of Dobnak salary. The Pohlads will love it.
 

Gopher_In_NYC said:
You first🤠, although when I was 10 I could name every player on every team in MLB.

I’m a 58 year old man, who just started working PT, after having not worked for five years due to various medical issues, so I have much different fish to fry than someone in your age range🤓.

I get a kick out of all the posters on here who could naturally outwit Falvey with ease; their hubris amuses me and reminds me of my smug pre 50 year old self. Trust me I was a much bigger “expert” (viva La Sid) than anyone on here - this was my theme song from that era -

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I don't have a list either, but his tenure has been a failure. He's in the the bottom 3rd of the league at best. Time for a change.
 

howeda7 said:
Why are we so eager to trade him if he's meh and it's a position we have zero depth?
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Umm, where did I say "I was eager" to trade Jeffers? My previous response to your statement that he's "untouchable".

He's not.

If he can fetch a prospect from a team that needs a C for depth (especially if their other C is more reliable defensively), then I am not opposed to it. This is especially true if the trade for Jeffers or any one of the other trade chips the Twins have fetch a potential Catcher in return.

If they have to ride out Vazquez & Gasper for the rest of 2025, so be it.

Even if the Twins don't get a Catcher back, it can be addressed in the offseason via trade or free agency and offset the loss of Jeffers' current 0.7 WAR. Not real difficult. I assume they will need more than 1, as Vazquez is also a likely departee.

If they are not offered a prospect (I'd go as far as saying "decent") then keep him. Simple. Maybe there will be market for him at the 2026 deadline if the Twins are again out of the race.
 


howeda7 said:
I don't have a list either, but his tenure has been a failure. He's in the the bottom 3rd of the league at best.
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Thanks for confirming you don’t know any either 😎,

Lovely how you asked me for specifics and then provides answer with a generalization🥳
howeda7 said:
Time for a change.
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I never said it wasn’t time for a change either, IIRC, I said there should be changes when the team is sold - as there obviously won’t be until that happens.

What I said was the following, in my original post -

You may find him odorous, but to act like his tenure has been the black whole of Calcutta, is an overly dramatic assessment.
 

Gopher_In_NYC said:
Thanks for confirming you don’t know any either 😎,

Lovely how you asked me for specifics and then provides answer with a generalization
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My point is that you are too easy to please. Falvey made a good trade or two. He must be going a good job. Ben Johnson won 2-3 B1G games. He must be improving. They're both very bad at their jobs. The Twins have now completely face-planted in 3 of the last 4 seasons in a very weak division.
Gopher_In_NYC said:
I never said it wasn’t time for a change, IIRC, I said there should be changes when the team is sold - as there obviously won’t be until that happens.
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Agreed. But I fear the new owner either won't be in place in time, or will be "convinced" by the Pohlads to give Falvey 2026 to prove himself. And then we'll have a strike which will probably buy him 2027 as well.

Hopefully the sale closes fast and he's canned by October 1st.
 

Ope3 said:
Umm, where did I say "I was eager" to trade Jeffers? My previous response to your statement that he's "untouchable".

He's not.

If he can fetch a prospect from a team that needs a C for depth (especially if their other C is more reliable defensively), then I am not opposed to it. This is especially true if the trade for Jeffers or any one of the other trade chips the Twins have fetch a potential Catcher in return.

If they have to ride out Vazquez & Gasper for the rest of 2025, so be it.

Even if the Twins don't get a Catcher back, it can be addressed in the offseason via trade or free agency and offset the loss of Jeffers' current 0.7 WAR. Not real difficult. I assume they will need more than 1, as Vazquez is also a likely departee.

If they are not offered a prospect (I'd go as far as saying "decent") then keep him. Simple. Maybe there will be market for him at the 2026 deadline if the Twins are again out of the race.
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He's not "untouchable", I'm not sure anyone is.

But he's among the last players I would trade. He's not at peak value, they have zero organizational depth at the position and acquiring a starting caliber catcher in free agency is very expensive (see Christian Vazquez, 3 years $30 million.) If you trade him, you're almost certainly making your team worse in 2026.
 




howeda7 said:
If we didn't give them any $$, the Tigers are eating ~$2.5 million of Paddock salary and probably around a $1 million of Dobnak salary. The Pohlads will love it.
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I heard that the White Sox agreed to stock all of our locker room vending machines with free soda and that sealed the deal for Falvey.
 

howeda7 said:
He's not "untouchable", I'm not sure anyone is.

But he's among the last players I would trade. He's not at peak value, they have zero organizational depth at the position and acquiring a starting caliber catcher in free agency is very expensive (see Christian Vazquez, 3 years $30 million.) If you trade him, you're almost certainly making your team worse in 2026.
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Untouchable was your word, not mine. Post #1584.

You are ignoring the possibility of acquiring a Catcher back in a trade (either for Jeffers or another trade chip), as I have seen in several potential trade partners for the Twins.
 

howeda7 said:
My point is that you are too easy to please.
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If my perspective annoys you sooooo much, feel free to put me on ignore or not interact with me.

i won’t engage an endless diatribe with you and won’t allow you to drag me into your negativity 😊. I’ve been called worse by better men than you kiddo
howeda7 said:
Falvey made a good trade or two. He must be going a good job.
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Never said that - maybe have enough self-respect for yourself not to put words in my mouth on an anonymous chatroom to win a meaningless argument 🤷‍♂️
howeda7 said:
Ben Johnson won 2-3 B1G games. He must be improving.
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I stated numerous times thst I support who the coach is. My apologies for being more of a Real Fan than you are 🤣
howeda7 said:
They're both very bad at their jobs. The Twins have now completely face-planted in 3 of the last 4 seasons in a very weak division.
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If it’s troubling to you, then maybe you need to take a break and do something else 🤷‍♂️
howeda7 said:
Agreed. But I fear the new owner either won't be in place in time, or will be "convinced" by the Pohlads to give Falvey 2026 to prove himself. And then we'll have a strike which will probably buy him 2027 as well.
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After what I’ve been through, I don’t fear many things in life and the future of the Twins is definitely not on my radar.
howeda7 said:
Hopefully the sale closes fast and he's canned by October 1st.
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"Life is 10% what happens to us and 90% how we react to it." Charles Swindoll.

You have a choice in how you live your life, as we all do. Peace Be With You☮️
 

Ope3 said:
Untouchable was your word, not mine. Post #1584.

You are ignoring the possibility of acquiring a Catcher back in a trade (either for Jeffers or another trade chip), as I have seen in several potential trade partners for the Twins.
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The Paddock trade already netted a Catcher prospect from the Tigers, but only 19 and in Rookie/Class A, so an unlikely option in 2026 unless he's the 2nd coming of Butch Wynegar.

Butch made it to Met Stadium at the age of 20.
 





Gopher_In_NYC said:
IIRC he obtained via trade -

Pablo
Ryan
SWR
Duran Duran

You may find him odorous, but to act like his tenure has been the black whole of Calcutta, is an overly dramatic assessment.

And yes, everyone makes bad trades, but do you win more than you lose? Additionally, three have been All-Stars for us.
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I never said Falvey is all bad. I think he has brought in talent which is why I don't want a big sell off.

The problem is they have been very redundant at drafting high in the draft, not to mention all of the injury issues. Very similar OF's - Kirilloff, Rooker, Larnach, Wallner, and the only one that's any good is the one they got rid of - Rooker. Same thing with all of these SS they draft. Gotta take 'the best athlete', fine. Yet they all have the same injury issues or struggle to hit.

The reason why I'm ready to see Falvey go is because there is some sort of organizational problems as far as developing these players. I think Rocco is a big part of the problem too yet Falvey has shown no interest in letting him go.

Pitching wise they are doing fine. But we have been waiting for all of these young position players to come up and take us to the next level, they look good in the minors, yet they are consistently underwhelming in the majors. It's no longer a small sample size either.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
I never said Falvey is all bad. I think he has brought in talent which is why I don't want a big sell off.

The problem is they have been very redundant at drafting high in the draft, not to mention all of the injury issues. Very similar OF's - Kirilloff, Rooker, Larnach, Wallner, and the only one that's any good is the one they got rid of - Rooker. Same thing with all of these SS they draft. Gotta take 'the best athlete', fine. Yet they all have the same injury issues or struggle to hit.

The reason why I'm ready to see Falvey go is because there is some sort of organizational problems as far as developing these players. I think Rocco is a big part of the problem too yet Falvey has shown no interest in letting him go.

Pitching wise they are doing fine. But we have been waiting for all of these young position players to come up and take us to the next level, they look good in the minors, yet they are consistently underwhelming in the majors. It's no longer a small sample size either.
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For hitters at least, it seems they develop well through the minors but then guys stall out at the MLB level. Eventually you have to start seeing a few of these guys become better than just average or even solid.
 

Gopher_In_NYC said:
If my perspective annoys you sooooo much, feel free to put me on ignore or not interact with me.

i won’t engage an endless diatribe with you and won’t allow you to drag me into your negativity 😊. I’ve been called worse by better men than you kiddo
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It's fine to be an optimist. Sid Hartman always believed the Gophers were going to the Rose Bowl and defended every local coach from the day they were hired to the day they were fired.

I'm optimistic when there's something to be optimistic about. There's reasons to be optimistic about the Vikings, Gopher football, the Wolves and even Gopher basketball, sort of.

The Twins, as currently constructed from ownership to front office to the roster give little reason to be optimistic. It's a sad, hard fall from only two years ago. The only thing that can really change it starts with selling the team.
 

GophersInIowa said:
For hitters at least, it seems they develop well through the minors but then guys stall out at the MLB level. Eventually you have to start seeing a few of these guys become better than just average or even solid.
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Yes. From Kiriloff, to Larnach, Lewis, Wallner, Julien etc. they continue to stall out at mediocre or worse. The one exception was probably Arreaz.
 


howeda7 said:
Yes. From Kiriloff, to Larnach, Lewis, Wallner, Julien etc. they continue to stall out at mediocre or worse. The one exception was probably Arreaz.
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I have been a season ticket holder (20 game) for over 20 years.
One day, I watched Larnach make a 10 yard circle to catch a routine fly, and for some reason, I called Dave St. Peter, got voice mail, gave him my name, my account number, and asked him why this guy is on the team.
Less than 2 minutes later, my phone rang, and it was Dave.
He let me know that he appreciates my concern, loves my loyalty, and assured me that Larnach is part of a great future. And that I can call him at any time.
I didn't call him again.
 


up 2-0, bases loaded and no out

5 minutes later, down

Gawd, these idiots suck!
 


The was just peak baseball in the bottom of the inning.

It was peak Alcala who was a disaster.

It was peak twins ineptitude to only get 1 run.
 



GophersInIowa said:
Never a doubt
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I doubted that they would restart tonight, much less rally in the 9th.

I was unaware of the restart and my DVR stopped during the 90 minute Rain Delay.

Pleasant surprise to find out the Twins Win!
 

saintpaulguy said:
I have been a season ticket holder (20 game) for over 20 years.
One day, I watched Larnach make a 10 yard circle to catch a routine fly, and for some reason, I called Dave St. Peter, got voice mail, gave him my name, my account number, and asked him why this guy is on the team.
Less than 2 minutes later, my phone rang, and it was Dave.
He let me know that he appreciates my concern, loves my loyalty, and assured me that Larnach is part of a great future. And that I can call him at any time.
I didn't call him again.
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Did Dave and Joel Maturi go to the same sports management program?
 


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