All Things 2024 Minnesota Timberwolves Off-Season Thread


The wolves using a buy now pay later business as their jersey sponsorship is amazing considering their current owner and buyers are in arbitration for not paying on time. Maybe ARoid and Lorey can go to Sezzle for financing a nba franchise.
 



College basketball has moved me to the NBA. I will never forgive you CBB.
Go wolves
I agree 100%. I lived and breathed college hoops until a Full Ride scholarship was deemed a slap in the face as compensation to play a game.

Its a sad realization that guys in the NBA play harder for their teammates and home fans than most kids in college.

At least there's a Salary Cap in the NBA...

Go Wolves!
 

I agree 100%. I lived and breathed college hoops until a Full Ride scholarship was deemed a slap in the face as compensation to play a game.

Its a sad realization that guys in the NBA play harder for their teammates and home fans than most kids in college.

At least there's a Salary Cap in the NBA...

Go Wolves!
x100 - well stated
 


I throw this out just for fun. was reading an article speculating about possible movement by USA Men's Olympic hoops members - like "could LeBron and Steph become teammates in the NBA after their Olympic experience?" that kind of thing.

and one of the scenarios they threw out was Kevin Durant wanting to join his buddy/little brother Ant for a season or two in Minnesota. the verdict on that one was "don't count on it."
 

I throw this out just for fun. was reading an article speculating about possible movement by USA Men's Olympic hoops members - like "could LeBron and Steph become teammates in the NBA after their Olympic experience?" that kind of thing.

and one of the scenarios they threw out was Kevin Durant wanting to join his buddy/little brother Ant for a season or two in Minnesota. the verdict on that one was "don't count on it."
Because they are both 2nd Apron teams, they can only trade contract for contract of the exact amount right down to the very penny. Neither team can aggregate players in an attempt to match salaries.

I would trade KAT for KD + FRP in a heartbeat. I even believe both teams would make that deal. The buzz around the Wolves nationally would be crazy. However, there are no circumstances under the CBA that make this possible.

With trades and FA signings virtually impossible being over the Apron, the only way right now the Wolves can get better is through the Draft.

Our level of continued team growth and success over the next 3-4 years will be largely connected to how well Dilly and TSJ perform. I like our chances!

Go Wolves!
 

Because they are both 2nd Apron teams, they can only trade contract for contract of the exact amount right down to the very penny. Neither team can aggregate players in an attempt to match salaries.

I would trade KAT for KD + FRP in a heartbeat. I even believe both teams would make that deal. The buzz around the Wolves nationally would be crazy. However, there are no circumstances under the CBA that make this possible.

With trades and FA signings virtually impossible being over the Apron, the only way right now the Wolves can get better is through the Draft.

Our level of continued team growth and success over the next 3-4 years will be largely connected to how well Dilly and TSJ perform. I like our chances!

Go Wolves!
Let's assume ANT has not hit his ceiling. I'd suggest that his growth as a player will be a bigger determining factor than these two guys.
 

Because they are both 2nd Apron teams, they can only trade contract for contract of the exact amount right down to the very penny. Neither team can aggregate players in an attempt to match salaries.

I would trade KAT for KD + FRP in a heartbeat. I even believe both teams would make that deal. The buzz around the Wolves nationally would be crazy. However, there are no circumstances under the CBA that make this possible.

With trades and FA signings virtually impossible being over the Apron, the only way right now the Wolves can get better is through the Draft.

Our level of continued team growth and success over the next 3-4 years will be largely connected to how well Dilly and TSJ perform. I like our chances!

Go Wolves!
I apologize if this is a stupid question, but
it isn't my first and won't be my last so,
WHO is FRP?
 





Let's assume ANT has not hit his ceiling. I'd suggest that his growth as a player will be a bigger determining factor than these two guys.
I agree but the point I was trying to make is that trades to improve the roster are nearly impossible as a 2nd Apron team.

Our only really chance in the next 4 - 5 years to build around Ant is through the Draft with trades and FA not an available option.

Hence, the importance of Dilly and TSJ to develop. I'm not sold on Miller and Minott ever being trusted rotational guys.
 

Because they are both 2nd Apron teams, they can only trade contract for contract of the exact amount right down to the very penny. Neither team can aggregate players in an attempt to match salaries.

I would trade KAT for KD + FRP in a heartbeat. I even believe both teams would make that deal. The buzz around the Wolves nationally would be crazy. However, there are no circumstances under the CBA that make this possible.

With trades and FA signings virtually impossible being over the Apron, the only way right now the Wolves can get better is through the Draft.

Our level of continued team growth and success over the next 3-4 years will be largely connected to how well Dilly and TSJ perform. I like our chances!

Go Wolves!
And what a dumb rule. Down to the very penny? Ridiculous. They took one of everyone's favorite part of the NBA, trades, and minimalized it
 



And what a dumb rule. Down to the very penny? Ridiculous. They took one of everyone's favorite part of the NBA, trades, and minimalized it
I was listening to a podcast awhile back (can't quite remember which one) and they went into detail about how clever the owners were by putting the second apron tax into the collective bargaining agreement--fanbases no longer can simply bemoan an owner being cheap and unwilling to add salaries, because that second apron now handcuffs management from being able to make moves once that level is reached--the idea being, "hey, we'd love to improve the team, but we can't add any more salary because of the second apron, not because we don't want to spend". For the players, the $$$ are flowing so strongly into their bank accounts, they're happy--at least until they get into the season and realize they're relying on 2nd rounders and green G-leaguers to make that playoff push.
 





Top 100 NBA Players:

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Mike ConleyMinnesota Timberwolves PG
Last year's rank: 91. Conley will enter the upcoming season as one of the oldest players in the league, but he's also still one of the most valuable veterans a young team -- like the Timberwolves -- could have. As he's done throughout his entire career, Conley acts as the perfect bridge between setting up star players like Anthony Edwards and Karl-Anthony Towns, while also being someone you can't just ignore when he's standing beyond the 3-point line. He's coming off a career year when it comes to his 3-point shooting, and should once again be a key piece on a Minnesota team primed to make another deep run in the postseason. -- Jasmyn Wimbish

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Naz ReidMinnesota Timberwolves C
Last year's rank: Not ranked. The reigning Sixth Man of the Year is good enough to start, as we've seen whenever Rudy Gobert or Karl-Anthony Towns has been out of the lineup. Since going undrafted in 2019, he has transformed his body, improved every season and become one of the league's best role players. Reid is light enough on his feet to defend on the perimeter, and he's still strong enough to bully his way to easy buckets on the inside. I don't know if he will continue to shoot 41.4% from 3-point range, but his game is varied enough that his success doesn't hinge on that.

62player headshot
Jaden McDanielsMinnesota Timberwolves SF
Last year's rank: 83. Most people know McDaniels is one of the best perimeter defenders in the league, pairing with Anthony Edwards to form one of the two best ball-pressure tandems in the league along with Boston's Jrue Holiday and Derrick White. But McDaniels is not a one-way player. He scored at least 21 points in four playoff games and 18 in a fifth while converting 43% of his postseason 3-pointers. He's growing as a driver and individual shot creator. Just a supremely valuable player.

40player headshot
Kristaps PorzingisBoston Celtics C
Last year's rank: 49. Porzingis found himself in a perfect situation with the Celtics. He wasn't expected to save a franchise like he was with the Knicks. He didn't need to be the perfect No. 2 option like in Dallas. And he wasn't collecting empty stats on a 35-win team like he was with the Wizards. It wouldn't be earth-shattering news if he missed games due to injury in Boston. But when he was healthy, oh boy was he the ultimate weapon. He's still a feared rim protector, can knock down 3s at an efficient clip, is a great pick-and-roll partner, and will make smaller defenders pay in mismatch situations. Porzingis had his most efficient year scoring the ball despite the second-fewest shot attempts per game in his career, and despite missing most of Boston's playoff games, he managed to still make a massive impact when called upon in the Finals. -- Jasmyn Wimbish
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Rudy GobertMinnesota Timberwolves C
Last year's rank: 55. So much for the Gobert trade being a disaster for the Timberwolves. The Frenchman reclaimed his throne as the Defensive Player of the Year last season, winning the award for a fourth time, which put him in a tie with Dikembe Mutombo and Ben Wallace for the most all-time. Along the way, he helped the Wolves make the Western Conference finals for the first time since 2004. There are always going to be certain matchups where it makes more sense for the Wolves to have Naz Reid out there, but last season proved that the Gobert-Karl-Anthony Towns partnership can work. -- Jack Maloney
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Karl-Anthony TownsMinnesota Timberwolves PF
Last year's rank: 37. Karl-Anthony Towns has ranked as high as No. 11 on previous CBS top-100 lists. The basic premise of that ranking has largely held. Towns is among the best big man shooters of all time. That hasn't changed. He remains an athletic marvel and strong rebounder, and to his credit, he's adjusted his game in light of Minnesota's roster upgrades. He's scaled back his own scoring for the sake of Anthony Edwards. He's playing a more traditional defensive power forward role to suit Rudy Gobert. There's something to be said for that flexibility, but too often, Towns simply faded into the background in big moments last season. He was invisible for large stretches of the Western Conference finals when Minnesota badly needed offense. Finding balance will be essential for him if he wants to climb back up to his old range on the list. Towns doesn't have to be the all-encompassing offensive force he was earlier in his career, but he has to be able to find buckets when the Timberwolves need them most. -- Sam Quinn

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Anthony EdwardsMinnesota Timberwolves SG
Last year's rank: 22. Edwards jumped from 22nd on this list last year to 10th this time around, which emphasizes his stunning ascension to stardom. He averaged career-highs across the board last season, made his first All-NBA appearance and led the Timberwolves to the Western Conference finals, upsetting the defending champion Nuggets en route. Early in the Wolves' playoff run, there were legitimate comparisons -- at least aesthetically -- to Michael Jordan. Over the summer, he reiterated his status as one of the game's best by playing a leading role in Team USA's gold medal campaign. -- Jack Maloney


Howl Wolves!!
 

Top 100 NBA Players:

85player headshot
Mike ConleyMinnesota Timberwolves PG
Last year's rank: 91. Conley will enter the upcoming season as one of the oldest players in the league, but he's also still one of the most valuable veterans a young team -- like the Timberwolves -- could have. As he's done throughout his entire career, Conley acts as the perfect bridge between setting up star players like Anthony Edwards and Karl-Anthony Towns, while also being someone you can't just ignore when he's standing beyond the 3-point line. He's coming off a career year when it comes to his 3-point shooting, and should once again be a key piece on a Minnesota team primed to make another deep run in the postseason. -- Jasmyn Wimbish

75player headshot
Naz ReidMinnesota Timberwolves C
Last year's rank: Not ranked. The reigning Sixth Man of the Year is good enough to start, as we've seen whenever Rudy Gobert or Karl-Anthony Towns has been out of the lineup. Since going undrafted in 2019, he has transformed his body, improved every season and become one of the league's best role players. Reid is light enough on his feet to defend on the perimeter, and he's still strong enough to bully his way to easy buckets on the inside. I don't know if he will continue to shoot 41.4% from 3-point range, but his game is varied enough that his success doesn't hinge on that.

62player headshot
Jaden McDanielsMinnesota Timberwolves SF
Last year's rank: 83. Most people know McDaniels is one of the best perimeter defenders in the league, pairing with Anthony Edwards to form one of the two best ball-pressure tandems in the league along with Boston's Jrue Holiday and Derrick White. But McDaniels is not a one-way player. He scored at least 21 points in four playoff games and 18 in a fifth while converting 43% of his postseason 3-pointers. He's growing as a driver and individual shot creator. Just a supremely valuable player.

40player headshot
Kristaps PorzingisBoston Celtics C
Last year's rank: 49. Porzingis found himself in a perfect situation with the Celtics. He wasn't expected to save a franchise like he was with the Knicks. He didn't need to be the perfect No. 2 option like in Dallas. And he wasn't collecting empty stats on a 35-win team like he was with the Wizards. It wouldn't be earth-shattering news if he missed games due to injury in Boston. But when he was healthy, oh boy was he the ultimate weapon. He's still a feared rim protector, can knock down 3s at an efficient clip, is a great pick-and-roll partner, and will make smaller defenders pay in mismatch situations. Porzingis had his most efficient year scoring the ball despite the second-fewest shot attempts per game in his career, and despite missing most of Boston's playoff games, he managed to still make a massive impact when called upon in the Finals. -- Jasmyn Wimbish
39player headshot
Rudy GobertMinnesota Timberwolves C
Last year's rank: 55. So much for the Gobert trade being a disaster for the Timberwolves. The Frenchman reclaimed his throne as the Defensive Player of the Year last season, winning the award for a fourth time, which put him in a tie with Dikembe Mutombo and Ben Wallace for the most all-time. Along the way, he helped the Wolves make the Western Conference finals for the first time since 2004. There are always going to be certain matchups where it makes more sense for the Wolves to have Naz Reid out there, but last season proved that the Gobert-Karl-Anthony Towns partnership can work. -- Jack Maloney
38player headshot
Karl-Anthony TownsMinnesota Timberwolves PF
Last year's rank: 37. Karl-Anthony Towns has ranked as high as No. 11 on previous CBS top-100 lists. The basic premise of that ranking has largely held. Towns is among the best big man shooters of all time. That hasn't changed. He remains an athletic marvel and strong rebounder, and to his credit, he's adjusted his game in light of Minnesota's roster upgrades. He's scaled back his own scoring for the sake of Anthony Edwards. He's playing a more traditional defensive power forward role to suit Rudy Gobert. There's something to be said for that flexibility, but too often, Towns simply faded into the background in big moments last season. He was invisible for large stretches of the Western Conference finals when Minnesota badly needed offense. Finding balance will be essential for him if he wants to climb back up to his old range on the list. Towns doesn't have to be the all-encompassing offensive force he was earlier in his career, but he has to be able to find buckets when the Timberwolves need them most. -- Sam Quinn

10player headshot
Anthony EdwardsMinnesota Timberwolves SG
Last year's rank: 22. Edwards jumped from 22nd on this list last year to 10th this time around, which emphasizes his stunning ascension to stardom. He averaged career-highs across the board last season, made his first All-NBA appearance and led the Timberwolves to the Western Conference finals, upsetting the defending champion Nuggets en route. Early in the Wolves' playoff run, there were legitimate comparisons -- at least aesthetically -- to Michael Jordan. Over the summer, he reiterated his status as one of the game's best by playing a leading role in Team USA's gold medal campaign. -- Jack Maloney


Howl Wolves!!
Pretty impressive to have your starting five and Top bench player listed - Wow
 

Hard to believe, but the Timberwolves play their first preseason game on Oct. 4

It's basically 10 days away.

Damn
 


This was almost always gonna be the outcome this offseason. Have no idea if it’s good or bad. Kind of sucks after being in the western conference finals last year.

KAT does get reunited with his buddy Thibs.
 

This was almost always gonna be the outcome this offseason. Have no idea if it’s good or bad. Kind of sucks after being in the western conference finals last year.

KAT does get reunited with his buddy Thibs.
Not getting Mitchell Robinson as part of the package really leaves the Wolves with terrible depth at C considering Naz is best suited at PF.

If you weren't a fan of KAT, just wait until you get an eyeful of Randle on defense.
 


I like it.

Randle puts up the same numbers as KAT.

Donte shoots the three at 40%.

I think we added more offense than we lost, which is what held us back.

Also, KATS contract just goes ballistic in the next few years.

Sound like we are getting a first round pick, also.
 


I like it.

Randle puts up the same numbers as KAT.

Donte shoots the three at 40%.

I think we added more offense than we lost, which is what held us back.

Also, KATS contract just goes ballistic in the next few years.

Sound like we are getting a first round pick, also.
The trade doesn't work on the trade machine, so I wonder if there's more to it?
 

Not getting Mitchell Robinson as part of the package really leaves the Wolves with terrible depth at C considering Naz is best suited at PF.

If you weren't a fan of KAT, just wait until you get an eyeful of Randle on defense.
I liked KAT, but the money just was not there unfortunately. I wonder who had to sign FG on the trade? I would assume Taylor.
 

Not getting Mitchell Robinson as part of the package really leaves the Wolves with terrible depth at C considering Naz is best suited at PF.

If you weren't a fan of KAT, just wait until you get an eyeful of Randle on defense.
This helps keeping Naz and NAW in town. Towns or Rudy had to go, but I thought it would happen next off season.
 




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