All Things 2024-25 Vikings Regular Season Thread

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on the Vikes - the Vikings are not going anywhere with Darnold as QB. So what. almost everyone understood going into the season that Darnold was here to keep the seat warm until McCarthy was ready to take over. then McCarthy got hurt, meaning that Darnold would be the QB all season barring injury.

the only thing that changed was that the Vikings are playing better than some people expected. but that does not change the big picture. Darnold is still a seat-warmer. He's gone after this season. If the Vikings make the playoffs, and even if they win a playoff game or two, the big picture does not change.

the only variable is this: the better that Darnold plays, the more money he can make from his next team. the worse he plays, the less money he can make.
 

Ope3 said:
Job done, Lions move to 8-1, by a whisker inside the left upright.
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I went to bed at halftime and unfortunately woke up to their comeback. I’m still not sold on them; I thought they’d take an L on the road @GB/Houston snd to their credit, they didn’t Wayne.

I’ll be shocked if they don’t cop an L or two before we duel for the Central in the regular season finale; I shall remain an irrational optimist till the end
 

Gopher_In_NYC said:
I went to bed at halftime and unfortunately woke up to their comeback. I’m still not sold on them; I thought they’d take an L on the road @GB/Houston snd to their credit, they didn’t Wayne.

I’ll be shocked if they don’t cop an L or two before we duel for the Central in the regular season finale; I shall remain an irrational optimist till the end
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Sure, the Lions might lose a game or two before the Season Finale, but so will the Vikings (likely).
 




Ogee Ogilthorpe said:
In other NFC North business; a Bears loss at the surging Cardinals would all but seal my futures bet from last summer of the Bears winning UNDER 9.5 wins. GO CARDINALS!!!!
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Wowzers, what a shitshow. The Bears not only dump to the Cardinals last week, but lose embarrassingly to the lowly Patriots yesterday. Just absolutely beautiful to watch. Too early to call Caleb Williams a bust, but he's a chump, and it's so awesome to see them losing so badly.

Not only do I have that action on the Bears UNDER 9.5 wins, which looks like a certainty at this point, I also have a little pizza money on the Bears losing all 6 NFC North division games. Their best chances at division wins are the next two games; Home against the Packers, then Home against the Vikings. SKOL!!!
 

Ogee Ogilthorpe said:
I also have a little pizza money on the Bears losing all 6 NFC North division games. Their best chances at division wins are the next two games; Home against the Packers, then Home against the Vikings. SKOL!!!
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Sort of crazy that the NFL Season is half over, it's midway through November, and not even 1 game of that action has been played.
 

Ope3 said:
Sort of crazy that the NFL Season is half over, it's midway through November, and not even 1 game of that action has been played.
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I got that at 35-1 odds on June 5. A lot has to go right, I'm not banking on it, but I like my chances. It was literally "pizza money" so no harm, no foul either way
 

Ogee Ogilthorpe said:
Wowzers, what a shitshow. The Bears not only dump to the Cardinals last week, but lose embarrassingly to the lowly Patriots yesterday. Just absolutely beautiful to watch. Too early to call Caleb Williams a bust, but he's a chump, and it's so awesome to see them losing so badly.

Not only do I have that action on the Bears UNDER 9.5 wins, which looks like a certainty at this point, I also have a little pizza money on the Bears losing all 6 NFC North division games. Their best chances at division wins are the next two games; Home against the Packers, then Home against the Vikings. SKOL!!!
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was reading a long article on The Athletic about the Bears' situation. the writer seemed to be suggesting that Williams is not the main problem, attributing a lot of Williams' issues to coaching and the makeup of the team. He said in his opinion, the problems are more systemic - from the coaching staff all the way up to our old friend, Bears President Kevin Warren. He said the Bears will have trouble hiring a strong coach because Warren doesn't want to give up any of his control.
 



short ornery norwegian said:
was reading a long article on The Athletic about the Bears' situation. the writer seemed to be suggesting that Williams is not the main problem, attributing a lot of Williams' issues to coaching and the makeup of the team. He said in his opinion, the problems are more systemic - from the coaching staff all the way up to our old friend, Bears President Kevin Warren. He said the Bears will have trouble hiring a strong coach because Warren doesn't want to give up any of his control.
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Warren and Poles (the GM) are completely clueless. Just morons. You go and get the #1 overall pick in the draft at QB and have the #9 pick to fortify your OL in front of him and you draft a WR. Among many other idiotic moves.
 

Ogee Ogilthorpe said:
I got that at 35-1 odds on June 5. A lot has to go right, I'm not banking on it, but I like my chances. It was literally "pizza money" so no harm, no foul either way
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Until the Washington fiasco, I would have said your bet had a 0.0 chance of paying off. Blutarski.

Afterwards, I would have said OK, at least a slim, more than a snowballs chance in hell threat.

Keep in mind the Bears had the longest Home Winning streak in the entire NFL. 8 games, more than a calendar year. It was actually the Vikings who had been the last team to defeat them at Soldier Field, 19-13 on 10/15/23.

Losing yesterday to the Patriots to end the home streak without even showing up, well OK, now. Maybe. At 35-1...could be some pretty tasty pizza.
 
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The Dolphins did the Vikings a real solid by taking down the Rams tonight.
 




Ope3 said:
Until the Washington fiasco, I would have said your bet had a 0.0 chance of paying off. Blutarski.

Afterwards, I would have said OK, at least a slim, more than a snowballs chance in hell threat.

Keep in mind the Bears had the longest Home Winning streak in the entire NFL. 8 games, more than a calendar year. It was actually the Vikings who had been the last team to defeat them at Soldier Field, 19-13 on 10/15/23.

Losing yesterday to the Patriots to end the home streak without even showing up, well OK, now. Maybe. At 35-1...could be some pretty tasty pizza.
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Not sure if this is legit or not, but it kinda wouldn't surprise me? Bagent wasn't half bad last year, he was balling a little bit, better than Fields I thought.... It also wouldn't surprise me if it was complete bullshit. Williams has never struck me as someone who endears himself to his teammates though.

 

Ogee Ogilthorpe said:
Not sure if this is legit or not, but it kinda wouldn't surprise me? Bagent wasn't half bad last year, he was balling a little bit, better than Fields I thought.... It also wouldn't surprise me if it was complete bullshit. Williams has never struck me as someone who endears himself to his teammates though.

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I buy it.
 

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Ope3 said:
I buy it.
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I can't lie, I liked what I saw of Bagent when he played last year. And another year in the league, taking reps every day, I would think he's playing even better this year. Whether it's injury or other situation, I wouldn't be surprised to see Bagent get some run sometime later this season.
 


Ogee Ogilthorpe said:
Not sure if this is legit or not, but it kinda wouldn't surprise me? Bagent wasn't half bad last year, he was balling a little bit, better than Fields I thought.... It also wouldn't surprise me if it was complete bullshit. Williams has never struck me as someone who endears himself to his teammates though.

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It seems the last two "can't miss prospects" at QB of the past 10 years have been Williams and Trevor Lawrence. Interesting that both are in somewhat crummy situations as far as organizations/team management/coaching goes, and both haven't lived up to the hype. It's obviously way too early to write off Williams, and both would likely benefit from a better situation, but interesting nonetheless. Makes you wonder if you dropped Brady in his prime in Chicago, would he flounder as well?

I'm no Justin Fields fan, but he did look better in Pittsburgh than he did in Chicago.
 

Ope3 said:
It looks that way. Philly may have a punchers chance at the #1 seed. They are a game back.

The most challenging games for the Eagles are Washington (X2), @ Baltimore & Pittsburgh.

Lions in addition to hosting their NFC North brethren also get Buffalo at home and are @ San Francisco.
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Wednesdays always a slow day for the NFL so here's a little bit of fun, a dilemma if you will.

Beginning of the season, I laid $200 on the Lions to win the NFC North, at a price of -145; this would result in a payout of $337.93 if I rode it out and they won the division.

As they sometimes do with bets, my BetMGM app as of this moment, is offering a "Cash Out" option of $256.35; basically take the money and run. That's a $56.35 profit, not too damn bad, guaranteed money.

Sometimes I take the Cash Out option when it's offered, sometimes I let it ride. Basically, the payout for actually winning the bet is only another $81. Obviously the Lions look like the class of the division but there's a lot that can happen in the final 2 months; a Goff injury, a few weird losses, who knows.

What do you think? I'm kinda leaning towards taking the money and running. I will say though, the Lions will almost certainly beat the Jags this Sunday, and likely the Colts the following week, and that Cash Out number would likely creep up, especially if the Vikings and/or Packers dump a game one of those weeks
 


Ogee Ogilthorpe said:
Wednesdays always a slow day for the NFL so here's a little bit of fun, a dilemma if you will.

Beginning of the season, I laid $200 on the Lions to win the NFC North, at a price of -145; this would result in a payout of $337.93 if I rode it out and they won the division.

As they sometimes do with bets, my BetMGM app as of this moment, is offering a "Cash Out" option of $256.35; basically take the money and run. That's a $56.35 profit, not too damn bad, guaranteed money.

Sometimes I take the Cash Out option when it's offered, sometimes I let it ride. Basically, the payout for actually winning the bet is only another $81. Obviously the Lions look like the class of the division but there's a lot that can happen in the final 2 months; a Goff injury, a few weird losses, who knows.

What do you think? I'm kinda leaning towards taking the money and running. I will say though, the Lions will almost certainly beat the Jags this Sunday, and likely the Colts the following week, and that Cash Out number would likely creep up, especially if the Vikings and/or Packers dump a game one of those weeks
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I would exercise the cash out now. Risking the $256 for the extra $81 is only slightly better than a current bet on the Lions would be, which ranges -$450 to $500.

I agree that while they are the heavy favorite with a lot of intra-Division games and injury potential there's still more than a decent chance for either the Pack or Vikes to pop up.
 

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