A qualifying list of potential replacements

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drewhaus7 said:
Will Wade would be towards the top of the list I would think. His current salary and buyout seems reasonable to be able to offer him something good.
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I agree.

It was meant as a joke based on it being the poster’s first post and his moniker😉
 

Other coaches I would entertain.

Chris Holtmann, has proven he can win in the big ten, Coyle could rescue him from basketball he'll in DePaul.

Craig Smith. The guy wanted last go around, it hasn't gone the way anyone has wanted it too at Utah, but he crushed it at USD and Utah State. I like to Otz at Iowa State, killed in Brookings, mediocre in Vegas, crushing it in Ames. Maybe salt lake is Craig's Vegas and MPLS is his Ames?

Dutcher. Hindsight should have hired last go around if he really had specific buyout language for Minnesota. Could have made Ben his Associate HC/HC in waiting and perhaps that might have worked, but if the ship hasn't sailed need someone like him to make this program respectable.

DeVries. Was surprised he took the West Virginia job, probably won't be able to poach him after a year but again make him say no.

Niko Medved. Not a splashy name but he has taken CSU to multiple NCAA births and a deep NIT run, not sure he would role up donors but he's a proven coach.

David Richman. Has over 200 wins in just over ten years at NDSU. Won the league three times, last couple years have been rough by their standards but seems to have his program in contention more often than not and I wouldn't be surprised if they were right there in the wide open summit at the end.

Musselman. Ship has probably long sailed plus him and his wife are West coast people, but maybe he bolts if the price is right after a year, especially if they're right with us at the bottom of the league?

Out of the Box: Ryan Saunders. Young guy has been an NBA head coach, long time assistant, top assistant on the nuggets staff. He already got fired from his dream NBA job. Maybe you go the veteran college coach this go around and keep this one in your back pocket in a few years.

Tim Miles. There's probably no shot at this point but I've always believed if we had moved off Tubby a year earlier this would have been the hire. I think he did about as well as anyone could do in Lincoln pre NIL. I think Minnesota would have been much better fit and I've already mentioned three of his former assistants. Crazy to think we could have of had him with Niko, Craig and Ben Johnson as his three assistants. Life is all about timing.

Bobby Hurley. Had a great run at Buffalo, been up and down at ASU. Works his ass off on the recruiting trail.

Archie Miller. Great run at Dayton, I for sure thought he was going to be a home run at IU but I'm starting think that place is toxic, kinda like Nebraska football. Seems to have Rhode Island rolling this year.


Kim English: Still a bit unproven but has been an assistant for some good programs, clearly has been better then our current coach, hasn't been great but certainly not terrible at Providence. Former NBA player just strikes me as someone kids want to play for.
 


howeda7 said:
Doogie mentioned Tom Crean. If we're hiring an Indiana flop, I'd rather have Archie, but neither would be in my top 5.
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Wouldn't hate it. I think Tom understands today's MIL cesspool environment. He's had success and failures in this league but he's recruited and put guys in the league as well. Could definitely be worse, but I would make quite a few others say no before him
 






Strongazzoffer said:
Other coaches I would entertain.

Chris Holtmann, has proven he can win in the big ten, Coyle could rescue him from basketball he'll in DePaul.

Craig Smith. The guy wanted last go around, it hasn't gone the way anyone has wanted it too at Utah, but he crushed it at USD and Utah State. I like to Otz at Iowa State, killed in Brookings, mediocre in Vegas, crushing it in Ames. Maybe salt lake is Craig's Vegas and MPLS is his Ames?

Dutcher. Hindsight should have hired last go around if he really had specific buyout language for Minnesota. Could have made Ben his Associate HC/HC in waiting and perhaps that might have worked, but if the ship hasn't sailed need someone like him to make this program respectable.

DeVries. Was surprised he took the West Virginia job, probably won't be able to poach him after a year but again make him say no.

Niko Medved. Not a splashy name but he has taken CSU to multiple NCAA births and a deep NIT run, not sure he would role up donors but he's a proven coach.

David Richman. Has over 200 wins in just over ten years at NDSU. Won the league three times, last couple years have been rough by their standards but seems to have his program in contention more often than not and I wouldn't be surprised if they were right there in the wide open summit at the end.

Musselman. Ship has probably long sailed plus him and his wife are West coast people, but maybe he bolts if the price is right after a year, especially if they're right with us at the bottom of the league?

Out of the Box: Ryan Saunders. Young guy has been an NBA head coach, long time assistant, top assistant on the nuggets staff. He already got fired from his dream NBA job. Maybe you go the veteran college coach this go around and keep this one in your back pocket in a few years.

Tim Miles. There's probably no shot at this point but I've always believed if we had moved off Tubby a year earlier this would have been the hire. I think he did about as well as anyone could do in Lincoln pre NIL. I think Minnesota would have been much better fit and I've already mentioned three of his former assistants. Crazy to think we could have of had him with Niko, Craig and Ben Johnson as his three assistants. Life is all about timing.

Bobby Hurley. Had a great run at Buffalo, been up and down at ASU. Works his ass off on the recruiting trail.

Archie Miller. Great run at Dayton, I for sure thought he was going to be a home run at IU but I'm starting think that place is toxic, kinda like Nebraska football. Seems to have Rhode Island rolling this year.


Kim English: Still a bit unproven but has been an assistant for some good programs, clearly has been better then our current coach, hasn't been great but certainly not terrible at Providence. Former NBA player just strikes me as someone kids want to play for.
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Holtmann is interesting. I would be wiling to give him a shot. I don't know if he would leave after one year though.

I would still take Craig Smith, but the shine is off a bit.

Obviously we'd kill for Dutcher or Musselman but I think the ship has sailed on both.

Absolutely not on Saunders, Cassell or anyone else with no college head coaching experience.

I put Richman in the same category as Tauer. No other Power 6 program would give them a second glance. MN shouldn't either. They need an intermediate stop if they want to reach the Power 5.
 

drewhaus7 said:
Interesting approach for BYU hiring a Kevin Young, long history of coaching lastly as assistant in NBA and associate head coach paid him around 4.3M annually and he apparently to this moments landed the top recruit.

With this approach would top MN assistant Micah Nori be interested?
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So you must not know the history here. Kevin Young is from Utah, best friends with billionaire Jazz owner/BYU grad Ryan Smith, and has a personal relationship with Danny Ainge. This wasn't a coaching search, this was Ainge and Smith telling the school, hey we have the money, this is our coach, and we will do everything to make this team win, BYU you can stay out of this.

This would be like if Glen Taylor and Kevin McHale went to the U and said we are hiring Ryan Saunders and will put up the 15-20m a year to pay for the coach and players, but you get no say in this.

So needless to say. That isn't happening here.
 


drewhaus7 said:
Interesting approach for BYU hiring a Kevin Young, long history of coaching lastly as assistant in NBA and associate head coach paid him around 4.3M annually and he apparently to this moments landed the top recruit.

With this approach would top MN assistant Micah Nori be interested?
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That would be a homerun if he had any interest in coaching at the college level. My guess based upon nothing is that he's probably looking for an opportunity to be the head coach of an NBA team.
 




Strongazzoffer said:
Other coaches I would entertain.

Chris Holtmann, has proven he can win in the big ten, Coyle could rescue him from basketball he'll in DePaul.
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This one continues to make me laugh as people bring him up. Holtmann flamed out at OSU with massive resources and top prospects. He continuously underperformed (often WAY underperformed) expectations. And people think he'd be able to make things work with less here? Lol. Some posters are more concerned about making a "splash" move rather than one that makes sense.
 

stocker08 said:
This one continues to make me laugh as people bring him up. Holtmann flamed out at OSU with massive resources and top prospects. He continuously underperformed (often WAY underperformed) expectations. And people think he'd be able to make things work with less here? Lol. Some posters are more concerned about making a "splash" move rather than one that makes sense.
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Went to the NCAA tourney eight times between Butler and Ohio State.Still finished with a winning big ten record despite the last two seasons Also has more tourney wins then every gopher coach not named Clem Haskins has combined at Minnesota. De Paul already what 7-2 after last night? they win seven games combined the last two years?
 

Does anyone play a style like Paul Westphal did? It might at least be worth switching over the channel to watch.
 

stocker08 said:
This one continues to make me laugh as people bring him up. Holtmann flamed out at OSU with massive resources and top prospects. He continuously underperformed (often WAY underperformed) expectations. And people think he'd be able to make things work with less here? Lol. Some posters are more concerned about making a "splash" move rather than one that makes sense.
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Agreed. And we watched CBJ out coach Holtmann live.
 

Strongazzoffer said:
Went to the NCAA tourney eight times between Butler and Ohio State.Still finished with a winning big ten record despite the last two seasons Also has more tourney wins then every gopher coach not named Clem Haskins has combined at Minnesota. De Paul already what 7-2 after last night? they win seven games combined the last two years?
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He has flaws, counting 2020, he would have been 8 for 8 making the NCAA tournament as a power 6 coach before the last two years at OSU.
 

Strongazzoffer said:
Went to the NCAA tourney eight times between Butler and Ohio State.Still finished with a winning big ten record despite the last two seasons Also has more tourney wins then every gopher coach not named Clem Haskins has combined at Minnesota. De Paul already what 7-2 after last night? they win seven games combined the last two years?
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Simply getting to the NCAA Tournament isn't that impressive when you have the financial and recruiting benefits of Ohio State. He massively underperformed.

Also....his 7-2 record at DePaul includes 0-2 against Power Conference teams. What's his best win? Valpo? Mercer? Wow....amazing job. I'm sure posters would be really jazzed to have a coach that was able to win games against the dregs and nobody else. Oh wait.....isn't that what we have now?

MonikerSchmoniker45 said:
Agreed. And we watched CBJ out coach Holtmann live.
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lol.....was 3-2 against what some posters have called the worst Gophers coach ever. LET'S HIRE HIM!
 

tjgopher said:
100%.

The biggest thing is they have to let Coyle do his job. No mandates from above, no search committees, no interviews with multiple people involved. Don't let the process get watered down and influenced by nonsense.

Let Coyle go get his guy. He is strategic and good at it. Conducting good coaching searches is one thing he has done well here (except for the one where he was told what to do and who should help him).

Let him do it. There are no guarantees, but he can run a good search and find a good coach.
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Agree, let Coyle do the job of hiring the next head coach. He still is responsible for the 2 failed basketball hires regardless of the speculation that he was forced to hire CBJ and Linday Whalen. Still question his ability on the baseball side of the athletic department. He let Pitino continue to coach and then hired one of Pitino's assistants who'd never been a head coach and had not been selected in lower tier head coach opportunities.

Still would like to know what CBJ tells MN high school recruits attempting to convince them to go to uofm when CBJ started his college basketball career at Northwestern in Chicago and transferring to uofm after 2 years.
 


stocker08 said:
Simply getting to the NCAA Tournament isn't that impressive when you have the financial and recruiting benefits of Ohio State. He massively underperformed.

Also....his 7-2 record at DePaul includes 0-2 against Power Conference teams. What's his best win? Valpo? Mercer? Wow....amazing job. I'm sure posters would be really jazzed to have a coach that was able to win games against the dregs and nobody else. Oh wait.....isn't that what we have now?



lol.....was 3-2 against what some posters have called the worst Gophers coach ever. LET'S HIRE HIM
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Strongazzoffer said:
Wouldn't hate it. I think Tom understands today's MIL cesspool environment. He's had success and failures in this league but he's recruited and put guys in the league as well. Could definitely be worse, but I would make quite a few others say no before him
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Pass. Crean didn't get it done at Indiana. This job is a lot tougher.
 
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Why not Cheryl Reeve. We know she can coach. We know she commands respect. $2-3M/year is a lot more than she makes now. She's probably bored with the WNBA and is looking for new challenges. It would instantly bring a massive amount of attention to the program, which might bring money and players.

The program has hit bottom. Dan Hurley or anybody else with a name isn't coming. A retread isn't going to fix this mess. We've tried two "unprovens" in a row.

Reeve will pack Williams the first year. When it's this bad, and it is, I say why not.
 

How about Thad Matta? He has Butler trending up since he's been back. Really good former Big10 coach. He checks the boxes of past, good coaching at multiple stops.
 

Bad Gopher said:
I don't get the self hate of the fans of this program. 30 years ago, I joined a company that had just been blacklisted back to the stone age, so they'd fired everyone in that department and rebuilt from the ground up. Management made it out to be a ten-year slog back to respectability, but I was like, fuck that shit. Within a year and a half, we had gotten two big projects and were killing it. It's amazing how fast things can improve when you bring in the right people.
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E.g. Bob Hanson to Bill Musselman—it helped to have Jim Brewer & a Wild West mentality—but Williams Arena went from
moribund to 19,000 against Indiana in a matter of months…
 

jamiche said:
Why not Cheryl Reeve. We know she can coach. We know she commands respect. $2-3M/year is a lot more than she makes now. She's probably bored with the WNBA and is looking for new challenges. It would instantly bring a massive amount of attention to the program, which might bring money and players.

The program has hit bottom. Dan Hurley or anybody else with a name isn't coming. A retread isn't going to fix this mess. We've tried two "unprovens" in a row.

Reeve will pack Williams the first year. When it's this bad, and it is, I say why not.
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I'm not opposed haha. She would never but it's an interesting name.
 

jamiche said:
Why not Cheryl Reeve. We know she can coach. We know she commands respect. $2-3M/year is a lot more than she makes now. She's probably bored with the WNBA and is looking for new challenges. It would instantly bring a massive amount of attention to the program, which might bring money and players.

The program has hit bottom. Dan Hurley or anybody else with a name isn't coming. A retread isn't going to fix this mess. We've tried two "unprovens" in a row.

Reeve will pack Williams the first year. When it's this bad, and it is, I say why not.
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I wouldn't be opposed. Hell, maybe Dawn Staley wants a crack at the men's game? Both can definitely coach and we really have nothing to lose that we already haven't lost
orangegopher15 said:
How about Thad Matta? He has Butler trending up since he's been back. Really good former Big10 coach. He checks the boxes of past, good coaching at multiple stops.
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How's his health?
 

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