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If revenue sharing becomes a reality the Minnesota job might not be as bad as people think. With the Big Ten TV contracts there is a decent pot of money out there. If this happens though they will really need start attracting crowds at basketball games. The extra revenue will become critical.
 

jovs said:
If revenue sharing becomes a reality the Minnesota job might not be as bad as people think. With the Big Ten TV contracts there is a decent pot of money out there. If this happens though they will really need start attracting crowds at basketball games. The extra revenue will become critical.
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It really already is through the Big 10 network. We are one of the "haves". Our "problem" is that the state and the fanbase is not fanatical enough to compete in the world of NIL.
 


skiumah1 said:
McCollum would be the Fleck type hire. Didn't think we had a shot to get 'em, but we did.

Bring him in!

(Wouldn't mind if he performed a little better than Fleck though)
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Why wouldn't McCollum take the Minnesota job? What would make it a longshot? He's a career Division II coach who has 9 career wins at the Division I level. And, only one of those wins so far is remotely impressive. He should crawl to Minneapolis to take a $2 million+ per year pay raise.

Let's get him through a single season of MVC basketball and re-convene. He may win it all, who knows, but I think it is way too early at this point to proclaim we have no shot to get him, nor should we necessarily be clamoring for him at this point.

The old Drake coach is probably the better hire. Coyle should include him on any list he has.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
It really already is through the Big 10 network. We are one of the "haves". Our "problem" is that the state and the fanbase is not fanatical enough to compete in the world of NIL.
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Much of it will depend on how each school divides up the revenue share and distributes directly to players. Football will get most of it at most schools. If Minnesota devotes a higher percent to MBB than others, then maybe there's a break through from a player payment standpoint. I am not convinced Gopher MBB will get a bigger percentage than other Big Ten MBB programs, though.
 


tjgopher said:
Why wouldn't McCollum take the Minnesota job? What would make it a longshot? He's a career Division II coach who has 9 career wins at the Division I level. And, only one of those wins so far is remotely impressive. He should crawl to Minneapolis to take a $2 million+ per year pay raise.

Let's get him through a single season of MVC basketball and re-convene. He may win it all, who knows, but I think it is way too early at this point to proclaim we have no shot to get him, nor should we necessarily be clamoring for him at this point.

The old Drake coach is probably the better hire. Coyle should include him on any list he has.
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Yeah I suppose I won't fully disagree there, but McCollum is sure off to a nice start in D1 after dominating at the D2 level. No doubt he can coach.

Can he do everything required at the Big 10 level? Not sure but I'd be willing to take that shot right now.

We'll see how the year finishes out but I would imagine that they'll be sitting at or near the top of the MVC after this year.

DeVries is also a high level candidate that would be a huge get. I'm skeptical he would take this job but worth the ask.

I just want to make sure we get a guy who "wins the interview" haha
 

I’m sure there were a lot of N. Carolina football message board folks that were rolling their eyes at the suggestion of Belichik as head coach, too. Just stop with all of the “why would they ever want to come here” crap. My only concern is with Coyle. He crapped the bed with the Johnson hire and everybody knew how it would turn out. He better get this one right.
 

goldenboy said:
I’m sure there were a lot of N. Carolina football message board folks that were rolling their eyes at the suggestion of Belichik as head coach, too. Just stop with all of the “why would they ever want to come here” crap. My only concern is with Coyle. He crapped the bed with the Johnson hire and everybody knew how it would turn out. He better get this one right.
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For those that are anti-Coyle, seems to me his hires have all been pretty well reasoned and have turned out OK for the most part. The Johnson one was an anomaly and really confusing in my mind.

But if you look at all of the others:

Fleck - History of Success
Motzko - History of Success
Dawn P. - History of Success
Volleyball - History of Success

Whalen - Not a history, but I think many were on board with the hire with her winning background / MN connection

Johnson - No history of success, not successful as a player. Did have the MN connection...
 

skiumah1 said:
For those that are anti-Coyle, seems to me his hires have all been pretty well reasoned and have turned out OK for the most part. The Johnson one was an anomaly and really confusing in my mind.

But if you look at all of the others:

Fleck - History of Success
Motzko - History of Success
Dawn P. - History of Success
Volleyball - History of Success

Whalen - Not a history, but I think many were on board with the hire with her winning background / MN connection

Johnson - No history of success, not successful as a player. Did have the MN connection...
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...even though he did not pick the Gophers out of high school. He only ended up with us on the rebound--after there was so much losing at NU that he presumably felt he had to get out of there.
 



Bad Gopher said:
...even though he did not pick the Gophers out of high school. He only ended up with us on the rebound--after there was so much losing at NU that he presumably felt he had to get out of there.
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Right. It's just crazy that hire was made 4 years ago. And the results have actually been as terrible as the hire was. Hate to say that about Johnson, but it's just the truth.
 

skiumah1 said:
For those that are anti-Coyle, seems to me his hires have all been pretty well reasoned and have turned out OK for the most part. The Johnson one was an anomaly and really confusing in my mind.

But if you look at all of the others:

Fleck - History of Success
Motzko - History of Success
Dawn P. - History of Success
Volleyball - History of Success

Whalen - Not a history, but I think many were on board with the hire with her winning background / MN connection

Johnson - No history of success, not successful as a player. Did have the MN connection...
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That criteria is not as relevant in the NIL era where every athlete is a free agent every year. If you don't have the dough, you aren't going to put on a show. Unfortunately, Coyle is way behind in providing the resources necessary for success. We'll never know if CBJ could coach or run a program because the NIL era started right around the day he was hired. It's time for him to go but the next coach isn't going to have more success without a lot more NIL money.
 

tjgopher said:
Why wouldn't McCollum take the Minnesota job? What would make it a longshot?
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He grew up in Iowa City. Therefore, dot, dot, dot

I think people are right in thinking it's too early for him to move up. He's winning with a roster largely made up of his D2 players that transferred with him. That's impressive, but want to see him do it with new players before backing up the Brinks truck. I think it's more likely than not that he does have the chops, but it's still speculative at this point.
 

jamiche said:
It's time for him to go but the next coach isn't going to have more success without a lot more NIL money.
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What do you think Dayton has for a NIL program? Do you think they are higher than say 50-60% of universities?
 



The woke liberalism attitude at the U needs to change to be competitive!
 


RockChalk said:
What do you think Dayton has for a NIL program? Do you think they are higher than say 50-60% of universities?
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Interesting question. Does Dayton have a football program to invest in or is their basketball program the most valuable money maker on campus? Schools, like Dayton, may indeed have more money to offer as the roster is only 12-15 people.
 

RockChalk said:
What do you think Dayton has for a NIL program? Do you think they are higher than say 50-60% of universities?
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All of the support goes to mbb at Dayton though. Minnesota mbb gets a smallish percentage of Nil money.
 


tjgopher said:
100%.

The biggest thing is they have to let Coyle do his job. No mandates from above, no search committees, no interviews with multiple people involved. Don't let the process get watered down and influenced by nonsense.

Let Coyle go get his guy. He is strategic and good at it. Conducting good coaching searches is one thing he has done well here (except for the one where he was told what to do and who should help him).

Let him do it. There are no guarantees, but he can run a good search and find a good coach.
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Let’s hope he does better than last time. I don’t know where this rumor started, but Ben was his hire. No mandate, just Coyle making a bad hire.
 

FinnGopher said:
Interesting question. Does Dayton have a football program to invest in or is their basketball program the most valuable money maker on campus? Schools, like Dayton, may indeed have more money to offer as the roster is only 12-15 people.
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Dayton has a football program (FCS).
 


Dave H said:
I would bet it is still more than Dayton. You guys way overestimate how much most schools have. (And just buy the bs that we have nothing based on no facts)
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I would bet that Dawson Garcia alone gets more NIL than some smaller school's entire budget. It feels like some here think that Minnesota's NIL fund is actually #352 of 352. It's not. It's not even last in the B1G.
 

howeda7 said:
I would bet that Dawson Garcia alone gets more NIL than some smaller school's entire budget. It feels like some here think that Minnesota's NIL fund is actually #352 of 352. It's not. It's not even last in the B1G.
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Too much complaining about NIL, other teams buying players, etc. NIL has not been a surprise that just hit the college game. Gophers and Ben Johnson have the same opportunity to retain their top players, and leverage the portal and it feels like they are too often having to settle. Example is complaining about schools like Texas Tech. Either Gophers get with it, or as many have already concluded, we have the wrong coach. The current roster is pretty disappointing.
 

Dave H said:
I would bet it is still more than Dayton. You guys way overestimate how much most schools have. (And just buy the bs that we have nothing based on no facts)
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DING DING DING We have a winner. I agree 100%. Tired of hearing about NIL, NIL NIL poor gophers with no NIL. Bullsheeeeet. There are programs that are more than respectable with far less to offer than the U of M. Bottom line is we have a one of a kind brutal coach, who should have never been offered this HC job. Maybe when he is 50-60 years old but no way should it have happened 4 years ago.
 

dlnavra said:
Too much complaining about NIL, other teams buying players, etc. NIL has not been a surprise that just hit the college game. Gophers and Ben Johnson have the same opportunity to retain their top players, and leverage the portal and it feels like they are too often having to settle. Example is complaining about schools like Texas Tech. Either Gophers get with it, or as many have already concluded, we have the wrong coach. The current roster is pretty disappointing.
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Past roster had some head scratchers. Jack Wilson.
 

tjgopher said:
100%.

The biggest thing is they have to let Coyle do his job. No mandates from above, no search committees, no interviews with multiple people involved. Don't let the process get watered down and influenced by nonsense.

Let Coyle go get his guy. He is strategic and good at it. Conducting good coaching searches is one thing he has done well here (except for the one where he was told what to do and who should help him).

Let him do it. There are no guarantees, but he can run a good search and find a good coach.
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Like he did with Whalen and Johnson. Hard pass, Coyle needs the boot first before Johnson. Coyle needs to be held accountable for is "I didn't come here to be .500" just to hire Ben Johnson 24 hours later. When you make that comment live on air, you BETTER have a big name like Dutcher, Mussellman, etc on a plane flying here while making that comment.
 

RockChalk said:
DING DING DING We have a winner. I agree 100%. Tired of hearing about NIL, NIL NIL poor gophers with no NIL. Bullsheeeeet. There are programs that are more than respectable with far less to offer than the U of M. Bottom line is we have a one of a kind brutal coach, who should have never been offered this HC job. Maybe when he is 50-60 years old but no way should it have happened 4 years ago.
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Especially when you got guys like Brain Dutcher with Minnesota as his dream job clause (similar to Lou Holtz gophers contract) and Eric Musselman making weekly appearances on Dan Barreiro's begging for the Gopher job.
 

Ski-U-Mahed said:
Like he did with Whalen and Johnson. Hard pass, Coyle needs the boot first before Johnson. Coyle needs to be held accountable for is "I didn't come here to be .500" just to hire Ben Johnson 24 hours later. When you make that comment live on air, you BETTER have a big name like Dutcher, Mussellman, etc on a plane flying here while making that comment.
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Coyle is not getting fired. The coach next year is either Ben Johnson or a replacement picked by Coyle. I'll take the later.
 

Find the bball coach who was a Syracuse when Coyle was there that has had recent success.
 


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