2024 MN High School Football thread

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MNVCGUY said:
Shame that Maple Grove and Edina don't have a chance to meet in the finals.
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Maybe. But Edina got third in their section with losses to Tonka and shakopee

I think that perhaps this 6a model is the best we can do. The bracket guarantees top two from a section can’t meet until semifinal
 

Ranger692 said:
Mankato may not have turf but Marshall does so there options for the SW part of MN. Minneota and Bold played section 5A championship there
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And it isn’t a central location. Previous format, it has been been used. For seeding, it isn’t a great location for any class.
 

Ope3 said:
Are we sure the Mankato High Schools even want artificial turf? Last time I was at Mankato East the field was spectacular. Felt like they took pride in how nice it was.
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Some of the pride MNState has in their field has trickled down.
 

all depends on how a field is going to be used. If it's basically a game field only - no practice, etc - then a grass field can hold up pretty well. but if you're playing varsity, JV, Junior High, Boys Soccer, Girls Soccer and so forth, then a grass field will get beat up - especially if you have a couple of "rain" games.

in Windom, where I live, the School Board is floating a proposal for a new sports complex - in order to move the games away from the river that keeps flooding. the plan would have a multi-use turf field, plus new baseball and softball fields next to the high school, re-doing the HS track and field complex, along with renovations to the locker rooms, a new wrestling practice area, and a new performing arts facility. estimated price tag is $33-million. the "Ag2School" tax credit will lower the net cost, but it's still a big number for a smaller community. (4,800 people). they are applying for grants, hoping to get some FEMA money - and - no joke - offering 'naming rights' for donors. So if you want a football field named after you and can write a check for 7-figures, contact the Windom School District.
 

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short ornery norwegian said:
all depends on how a field is going to be used. If it's basically a game field only - no practice, etc - then a grass field can hold up pretty well. but if you're playing varsity, JV, Junior High, Boys Soccer, Girls Soccer and so forth, then a grass field will get beat up - especially if you have a couple of "rain" games.

in Windom, where I live, the School Board is floating a proposal for a new sports complex - in order to move the games away from the river that keeps flooding. the plan would have a multi-use turf field, plus new baseball and softball fields next to the high school, re-doing the HS track and field complex, along with renovations to the locker rooms, a new wrestling practice area, and a new performing arts facility. estimated price tag is $33-million. the "Ag2School" tax credit will lower the net cost, but it's still a big number for a smaller community. (4,800 people). they are applying for grants, hoping to get some FEMA money - and - no joke - offering 'naming rights' for donors. So if you want a football field named after you and can write a check for 7-figures, contact the Windom School District.
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Proctor has a nice facility.
 

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HS “coach” who single handily shut down high school football during COVID loses badly Tuesday night.
 


In 6A, I've got North, Tonka, Shakopee, and Maple Grove. The only game I see as a toss up is North and Anoka.
 

prespsguy said:
In 6A, I've got North, Tonka, Shakopee, and Maple Grove. The only game I see as a toss up is North and Anoka.
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Minnetonka is interesting. They lost to EP and MG and beat Park, Buffalo, and Mayo over last 5 games.

I still think it’s MG over the field.
 



prespsguy said:
In 6A, I've got North, Tonka, Shakopee, and Maple Grove. The only game I see as a toss up is North and Anoka.
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Minnetonka is interesting. They lost to EP and MG and beat Park, Buffalo, and Mayo over last 5 games.

Forest Lake and Minnetonka each beat
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Minnetonka is interesting. They lost to EP and MG and beat Park, Buffalo, and Mayo over last 5 games.

I still think it’s MG over the field.
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Maple Grove has already beaten 3 of the 4 teams left on the other side of the bracket so if they can so these next two will probably be their toughest tests against Edina and most likely Shakopee.
 

Ranger692 said:
Mankato may not have turf but Marshall does so there options for the SW part of MN. Minneota and Bold played section 5A championship there
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Mankato had a referendum to have both East and West to get new stadiums with turf as well as new tracks but it was defeated. I believe West is getting some updates as it is the original Mankato high school.
 

swede2 said:
It seems like an avenue that should be explored is a cooperative effort between East, West and MSU to build a stadium at MSU similar to the new stadiums at SWMSU or Northern State. But while Blakesly Stadium is a dump, the high school facilities are good minus the playing surface and if the high schools are playing in turf, presumably they'd want to practice on turf, too, and that could get tricky.
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MSU was exploring a brand new stadium but that was before the pandemic. The finances of these state universities has changed as they don't have big donors and I believe Mankato has cut some programs. I am not sure where it stands now. Glen Taylor built the basketball arena but I am not sure where he is on the football program.
 



MNVCGUY said:
Maple Grove has already beaten 3 of the 4 teams left on the other side of the bracket so if they can so these next two will probably be their toughest tests against Edina and most likely Shakopee.
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Would have liked to see Edina or Shakopee on the other side of the bracket.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Would have liked to see Edina or Shakopee on the other side of the bracket.
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Yeah, bummer that one side of the bracket was loaded with most of the top teams this year. Championship game might end up being a bit of a letdown although it looks like Minnetonka gave Maple Grove a battle with the game tied in the 4th quarter before Maple Grove scored a defensive TD and kicked a FG for the final 10 point margin.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Would have liked to see Edina or Shakopee on the other side of the bracket.
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agree

Would love to see a better seeding mechanism but without subjective bias the current format is probably the least bad way to do it
 

MNVCGUY said:
Yeah, bummer that one side of the bracket was loaded with most of the top teams this year. Championship game might end up being a bit of a letdown although it looks like Minnetonka gave Maple Grove a battle with the game tied in the 4th quarter before Maple Grove scored a defensive TD and kicked a FG for the final 10 point margin.
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I feel like 9 of the top 12-14 all on one side.
And 4 of the top 6
And 5 of the top 8
 

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For 6A only 2 repeat State tournament teams in Lakeville North and Edina. 14 different teams in the final 8 over the last two years.
 
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Jack jones said:
Hey SON does Springfield play Minneota?
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they did not meet in the regular season.

They are both in the same District - but they are in separate Sub-Districts.

Minneota - Southwest District - North Sub-district
Springfield - Southwest District - South Sub-district

If they meet this season, it would have to be in the State Finals.
Minneota is #1 South seed - Springfield #3 South Seed. If they both win, they will be in opposite sides of the bracket for the Semis. Note - Springfield is an underdog on paper in the Quarters - playing #2 South Seed Goodhue.

Last year, Minneota beat Springfield 43-22 in the Prep Bowl.
 

OK - this made me laugh.

So, I'm reading the Strib online this morning. in the Sports section, they have an article previewing some of the HS FB State Quarter-final games. I get to the end of the article, and for 9-man, they spotlight a matchup between LeRoy-Ostrander/Lyle/Pacelli and Renville County West.

Only - in the article, they said that QB Caden Hungerholt plays for Renville County West.

Wrong - Hungerholt is the star QB for LeR-O/L/P.

I tried to post a comment pointing out the mistake. checked back a while later and the Strib never posted my comment. so much for dealing with criticism.
 

I have heard rumors preliminary numbers are in:
Moorhead
Rogers
Andover
Moving up

Burnsville
Mayo
Buffalo
Moving down

If this is true, I would guess they slant the northwest to get teams closer to Moorhead.
N- new to section
R- possible relief schedule

West
Loses prior lake and Buffalo
Gainer maple grove and osseo

Maple grove - N
Wayzata
Minnetonka
Eden prairie
Edina
Hopkins - R
Shakopee
Osseo - NR


North
Loses centennial, osseo, and maple grove
Gains Moorhead, Andover, rogers

Moorhead - N
Rogers - N
Andover - N
St Michael Albertville
Anoka
Champlin park
Coon rapids - R
Blaine

East
Loses park
Gains centennial

Forest lake
Stillwater
White bear lake
Woodbury
Roseville - R
East Ridge
Moundview
Centennial - N


South
Loses mayo and Burnsville
Gain prior lake and park

Park - NR
Eagan
Eastview - R
Rosemount
Prior lake - N
Lakeville north
Lakeville south
Farmington


I also think who wants relief will factor in sectioning. They want and even number of teams per section in relief (0 or 2)
So if they do that they may tinker with sections to get Roseville and coon rapids in same section.
Other options would be just to have crossovers all the same sections.

East vs North
West vs South

My explanation of sectioning:
Prior lake plays in south suburban. Would be first team to move south.
Shakopee also applies but then pushes Blaine away from other anoka Hennepin schools. So to keep anoka Hennepin together park to south. Park has been in the south section in the past 10 years.
Centennial moving east and park moving south would make the east stronger. I see the east as traditionally the weakest of the 4 sections.
Usually west is strongest and north and south could be the second best depending on the year.

Maple grove asked to move west.
Don’t know who second west team is. Osseo makes sense to me. Osseo will possibly take relief.
 

Some guy said:
I have heard rumors preliminary numbers are in:
Moorhead
Rogers
Andover
Moving up

Burnsville
Mayo
Buffalo
Moving down

If this is true, I would guess they slant the northwest to get teams closer to Moorhead.
N- new to section
R- possible relief schedule

West
Loses prior lake and Buffalo
Gainer maple grove and osseo

Maple grove - N
Wayzata
Minnetonka
Eden prairie
Edina
Hopkins - R
Shakopee
Osseo - NR


North
Loses centennial, osseo, and maple grove
Gains Moorhead, Andover, rogers

Moorhead - N
Rogers - N
Andover - N
St Michael Albertville
Anoka
Champlin park
Coon rapids - R
Blaine

East
Loses park
Gains centennial

Forest lake
Stillwater
White bear lake
Woodbury
Roseville - R
East Ridge
Moundview
Centennial - N


South
Loses mayo and Burnsville
Gain prior lake and park

Park - NR
Eagan
Eastview - R
Rosemount
Prior lake - N
Lakeville north
Lakeville south
Farmington


I also think who wants relief will factor in sectioning. They want and even number of teams per section in relief (0 or 2)
So if they do that they may tinker with sections to get Roseville and coon rapids in same section.
Other options would be just to have crossovers all the same sections.

East vs North
West vs South

My explanation of sectioning:
Prior lake plays in south suburban. Would be first team to move south.
Shakopee also applies but then pushes Blaine away from other anoka Hennepin schools. So to keep anoka Hennepin together park to south. Park has been in the south section in the past 10 years.
Centennial moving east and park moving south would make the east stronger. I see the east as traditionally the weakest of the 4 sections.
Usually west is strongest and north and south could be the second best depending on the year.

Maple grove asked to move west.
Don’t know who second west team is. Osseo makes sense to me. Osseo will possibly take relief.
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I like it. Not sure if it's true, but I did hear that relief scheduling will no longer be a thing next year.
 

Class 3A quarterfinal Fairmont vs Dassel-Cokato. 3PM on Saturday. An interesting site, Washburn HS. The Gopher game should be done by then maybe I will walk over. I was hoping to catch one of these games in person for a bit this weekend. I am not sure about the schools but it is convenient for me.
 

prespsguy said:
I like it. Not sure if it's true, but I did hear that relief scheduling will no longer be a thing next year.
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I had heard that, but I have now heard that no decision has been made but ADs seemed to have like the model of the schedule that was built this last two year cycle, which included relief
 

Maple Grove 42-12 over Edina in a running time game.

Minnetonka 28-0 over Blaine. Blaine QB broke collarbone while driving Blaine to potentially tie the game at 7.
 

In 4A
Totino Grace over Hill Murray
Marshall over Byron
Brecker over Holy Angels
Orono over Hermantown
 

Ranger692 said:
Mankato may not have turf but Marshall does so there options for the SW part of MN. Minneota and Bold played section 5A championship there
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Marshall is quite a haul from Mankato.
 

HS FB Scores - State Quarter-Finals - Thursday, 11/7

9-pl: (S2) Hills-Beaver Creek 34, (S3) Border West 14
--- (N1) Mountain Iron-Buhl 38, (N4) Stephen-Argyle 6
--- (N2) Fertile-Beltrami 48, (N3) Cromwell-Wright 7

1A: (N4) Parkers Prairie 33, (N1) Upsala-Swanville 0
--- (S3) Springfield 20, (S2) Goodhue 14

2A: (N3) Staples-Motley 46, (N2) Barnesville 44 (2-OT)
---(S1) Chatfield 23, (S4) Triton 22

4A: (N1) Becker 35, (N4) Holy Angels 15
--- (N3) Orono 49, (N2) Hermantown 21
--- (S1) Totino-Grace 24, (S4) Hill-Murray 0
--- (S3) Marshall 21, (S2) Byron 0

6A: Minnetonka 28, Blaine 0
--- Maple Grove 42, Edina 12
 

2A.

Staples Motley over Barnesville 46-42
Hatfield 23-22 over Triton
 

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