2024 MN High School Football thread

Donate To GopherHole






Can officially say the higher seeds do not need to worry about Lakeville South or Rosemount....holy crap that was tough to watch and neither team looked good.

Tonight looks like another indication that there is not a clear cut favorite in 6A this year. Lakeville North will probably hang onto the #1 spot because they keep on winning close games but don't see them doing well when they actually have to start playing good teams again.

Section 2 has 2 decent teams in North and Eagan. Farmington, South, Mayo, Rosemount, Eastview and Burnsville are all very week this year. Champ is almost certainly not coming from this group of teams.
 

Stillwater goes down to WBL
Hopkins loses to Roseville
STMA loses to Osseo
Anoka 14-0 over Centennial should give them 2 seed behind MG.

The goal will be to avoid Edina and EP in the second round for top seeds.
 


GopherGrit said:
I never realized how close in distance these two high schools are to each other. Were not in the same conference for a long time?
Click to expand...
EP was in the lake
Minnetonka was in classic lake

At one point lake red and lake blue or something.

It’s musical chairs
 



Hopkins games must be quite something to watch - the average combined scoring output this year is just over 74 points.

Two Rivers continues to blow out the city schools on their schedule and the seemingly inevitable section final with St Thomas should be an interesting game.
 

If EP's QB can improve his passing watch out for EP. They should win against Rochester Mayo and Woodbury before the playoffs. The EP run game is coming back. The team I would watch out for in 6A, beyond Maple Grove, is Shakopee. Their offense creates confusion, and if their RB's stay healthy they will be a threat to any team they play.
 

xyz1 said:
Hopkins games must be quite something to watch - the average combined scoring output this year is just over 74 points.

Two Rivers continues to blow out the city schools on their schedule and the seemingly inevitable section final with St Thomas should be an interesting game.
Click to expand...
I think they get the two and Hastings get the 3

But I would have any game between them and valley or Jefferson as a pick em
 

Hard to find common opponents for comparison given Two Rivers’ JV schedule, but they did easily beat Hastings, which beat Jefferson by 15.
 



very late scores from Friday - I was out of town....

9-person: #7 Spring Grove (5-0) at Kingsland (4-1)--Spring Grove 36, Kingsland 32
--#9 Fosston (5-0) at Park Christian (4-1)-- Fosston 36, Park Christian 34

1A: Staples-Motley (5-0) at Parkers Prairie 4-1)--Staples-Motley 24, Parkers Prairie 14
-- Mille Lacs (4-1) at (#9 in 2A) Barnum (5-0)--Barnum 29, Mille Lacs 0
--#7 Belgrade-Brooten-Elrosa (4-1) at Browerville-Eagle Valley (4-1)
------Belgrade-Brooten-Elrosa 36, Browerville-Eagle Valley 7

2A: Kimball Area (5-0) at #6 Holdingford (5-0)--Kimball Area 34, Holdingford 8
-- #9 Cannon Falls (4-1) at Triton (4-1)--Cannon Falls 36, Triton 6

3A: (#10 in 4A) Marshall (4-1) at #3 Fairmont (5-0)--Marshall 28, Fairmont 9
-- Luverne (5-0) at (2A) Pipestone (5-0)--Luverne 6, Pipestone 0 (in OT)

4A: #6 Byron (4-1) at #9 Kasson-Mantorville (4-1)--Byron 42, Kasson-Mantorville 0
-- #1 Becker (5-0) at #7 Rocori (4-1)--Becker 30, Rocori 14
--#3 Orono at #4 Providence Academy (4-1)--Orono 24, Providence Academy 13
 

xyz1 said:
Hard to find common opponents for comparison given Two Rivers’ JV schedule, but they did easily beat Hastings, which beat Jefferson by 15.
Click to expand...
Yup. But I would still pick either one of them over two rivers

That doesn’t mean they’d for sure win
 

Minnesota high school football state rankings​

First-place votes in parentheses, record, total points
Class 6A
1. Lakeville North (5), 6-0, 113
2. Maple Grove (7), 6-0, 112
3. Shakopee, 5-1, 93
4. Minnetonka, 5-1, 78
5. Eagan, 4-2, 68
6. Edina, 4-2, 58
7. Anoka, 4-2, 43
8. Eden Prairie, 3-3, 39
9. Buffalo, 5-1, 19
10. Blaine, 4-2, 18.
Also receiving votes: Mounds View 10, Forest Lake 3, St. Michael-Albertville 3, Lakeville South 2, Stillwater 1.
Class 5A
1. Alexandria (9), 6-0, 117
2. Moorhead (2), 6-0, 107
3. Owatonna (1), 6-0, 95
4. Andover, 5-1, 76
5. Robbinsdale Armstrong, 6-0, 74
6. Elk River, 5-1, 64
7. Mankato East, 5-1, 51
8. Two Rivers, 6-0, 3-1
9. Mankato West, 3-3, 9
10. (tie) Bemidji, 4-2, 8
10. Robbinsdale Cooper, 5-1, 8
Also receiving votes: St. Thomas Academy 6, Rochester John Marshall 5, Chanhassen 5, Monticello 2, Waconia 2.
Class 4A
1. Becker (11), 6-0, 118
2. Totino-Grace (1), 6-0, 106
3. Orono, 6-0, 100
4. Princeton, 6-0, 82
5. Byron, 5-1, 66
6. Providence Academy, 4-2, 49
7. Marshall, 5-1, 45
8. Rocori, 4-2, 30
9. Hill-Murray, 5-1, 24
10. Hermantown, 5-1, 14
Also receiving votes: Duluth Denfeld 6, North Branch 6, Holy Angels 5, Kasson-Mantorville 4, Minneapolis Camden 4, Hutchinson 1
Class 3A
1. Stewartville (11), 6-0, 119
2. Dassel-Cokato, 6-0, 104
3. Pequot Lakes (1), 6-0, 93
4. Albany, 6-0, 86
5, Waseca, 5-1, 62
6. Fergus Falls, 6-0, 54
7. Fairmont, 5-1, 42
8. Morris Area/Chokio-Alberta, 6-0, 41
9. Pine Island, 5-1, 23
10. Annandale, 5-1, 14
Also receiving votes: Luverne 13, Pierz 6, Holy Family 2, Zimmerman 1
CLASS 2A
1. Barnesville (8), 6-0, 113
2. Chatfield (3), 6-0, 100
3. Eden Valley-Watkins (1), 6-0, 98
4. Jackson County Central, 6-0, 81
5. Caledonia, 5-1, 64
6. Norwood Young America, 6-0, 6-0
7. Barnum, 6-0, 46
8. Cannon Falls, 5-1, 29
9. Kimball Area, 6-0, 25
10. Holdingford, 5-1, 10
Also receiving votes: Rush City 8, Staples-Motley 7, Moose Lake-Willow River 6, Waterville-Elysian-Morristown 3, Pipestone 1, St. Agnes 1
CLASS 1A
1. Minneota (12), 6-0, 120
2. Springfield, 6-0, 104
3. Mahnomen/Waubun, 6-0, 94
4, Goodhue, 6-0, 89
5. Upsala/Swanville, 6-0, 67
6. BOLD, 5-1, 63
7. (tie) Ada-Borup West, 5-1, 33
7. (tie) Belgrade-Brooten-Elrosa, 5-1, 33
9. Blooming Prairie, 5-1, 23
10. Fillmore Central, 5-1, 19
Also receiving votes: Dawson-Boyd 5, Lester Prairie 4, Red Lake County 4, West Central Area 3, Adrian/Ellsworth 1, Parkers Prairie 1.
NINE-PLAYER
1. Nevis (8), 6-0, 116
2. Mountain Iron-Buhl (3), 6-0, 105
3. Fertile-Beltrami (1), 6-0, 85
4. Hills-Beaver Creek, 6-0, 79
5. LeRoy-Ostrander/Lyle/Pacelli, 6-0, 64
6. Cherry, 6-0, 62
7. Spring Grove, 6-0, 54
8. Fosston, 6-0, 38
9. Hancock, 6-0, 28
10. Stephen-Argyle, 6-0, 12
Also receiving votes: Kingsland 4, Goodridge/Grygla-Gatzke 3
 

Changes in HS FB poll --

9-man: Goodridge-Grygla-Gatzke is out. Stephen-Argyle moves into top 10

1A: same teams as last week

2A: International Falls out of top 10. Kimball Area moves into top 10.

3A: Holy Family Catholic is out. Annandale moves into top 10.

4A: North Branch and Kasson-Mantorville are out. Hermantown and Hill-Murray move into top 10.

5A: Chanhassen is out. Robbinsdale Cooper is in.

6A: Eden Prairie is out. Stillwater is in.

it would take a better researcher than me to find out, but I wonder when the last time EP was not ranked in the top 10 in the state?
 

short ornery norwegian said:
Changes in HS FB poll --

9-man: Goodridge-Grygla-Gatzke is out. Stephen-Argyle moves into top 10

1A: same teams as last week

2A: International Falls out of top 10. Kimball Area moves into top 10.

3A: Holy Family Catholic is out. Annandale moves into top 10.

4A: North Branch and Kasson-Mantorville are out. Hermantown and Hill-Murray move into top 10.

5A: Chanhassen is out. Robbinsdale Cooper is in.

6A: Eden Prairie is out. Stillwater is in.

it would take a better researcher than me to find out, but I wonder when the last time EP was not ranked in the top 10 in the state?
Click to expand...
They are #8. Stillwater is out.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
Changes in HS FB poll --

9-man: Goodridge-Grygla-Gatzke is out. Stephen-Argyle moves into top 10

1A: same teams as last week

2A: International Falls out of top 10. Kimball Area moves into top 10.

3A: Holy Family Catholic is out. Annandale moves into top 10.

4A: North Branch and Kasson-Mantorville are out. Hermantown and Hill-Murray move into top 10.

5A: Chanhassen is out. Robbinsdale Cooper is in.

6A: Eden Prairie is out. Stillwater is in.

it would take a better researcher than me to find out, but I wonder when the last time EP was not ranked in the top 10 in the state?
Click to expand...
Interesting note on Eden Prairie....for as good as they have been their last championship game appearance was back in 2018 and their last win was 2017.

Prep Bowl History

www.mnfootballcoaches.com www.mnfootballcoaches.com
 


To be fair, they would have had a strong chance to win it in 2020; Covid shut them down.

You are correct though; there have not been many classes that have gone their 4 years without a championship. And the demographics have change drastically. Football may be ok, but hockey has been hit hard. They are easily in a class below Edina & Minnetonka when it comes to hockey at the youth level.
 

FireDaveLee said:
To be fair, they would have had a strong chance to win it in 2020; Covid shut them down.

You are correct though; there have not been many classes that have gone their 4 years without a championship. And the demographics have change drastically. Football may be ok, but hockey has been hit hard. They are easily in a class below Edina & Minnetonka when it comes to hockey at the youth level.
Click to expand...
When they were at peak powerhouse level in almost everything, there was a lot of criticism for not building a second high school, claiming it was only because they wanted to be good at sports (as if that's why schools are built). What they didn't want, was to have to close a second high school when demographics changed and the district aged like Hopkins, Edina, White Bear, Roseville, Bloomington etc. all did, and I think we're starting to see it now.

I'd be very curious to see how many kids open enroll from EP into Minnetonka. I've known a few parents who sent their kids to Tonka from EP, but not near as many as from Hopkins.

(but I still think Wayzata should have built a second high school - it's projected to keep growing a LOT).
 

disco said:
When they were at peak powerhouse level in almost everything, there was a lot of criticism for not building a second high school, claiming it was only because they wanted to be good at sports (as if that's why schools are built). What they didn't want, was to have to close a second high school when demographics changed and the district aged like Hopkins, Edina, White Bear, Roseville, Bloomington etc. all did, and I think we're starting to see it now.

I'd be very curious to see how many kids open enroll from EP into Minnetonka. I've known a few parents who sent their kids to Tonka from EP, but not near as many as from Hopkins.

(but I still think Wayzata should have built a second high school - it's projected to keep growing a LOT).
Click to expand...
A good number do for sure, absolutely.

It's an interesting community.....lots of haves & have nots in terms of personal wealth. I'm guessing all districts have some, but it really seems to be quite a gap, at least from what I see.
 


Another sport but EP girls tennis advanced to state over Minnetonka today. Still two classes and here was the final four of the section

Minnetonka
Eden Prairie
Prior Lake
St Peter

One is not like the others.
 

MaxyJR1 said:

Minnesota high school football state rankings​

First-place votes in parentheses, record, total points
Class 6A
1. Lakeville North (5), 6-0, 113
2. Maple Grove (7), 6-0, 112
3. Shakopee, 5-1, 93
4. Minnetonka, 5-1, 78
5. Eagan, 4-2, 68
6. Edina, 4-2, 58
7. Anoka, 4-2, 43
8. Eden Prairie, 3-3, 39
9. Buffalo, 5-1, 19
10. Blaine, 4-2, 18.
Also receiving votes: Mounds View 10, Forest Lake 3, St. Michael-Albertville 3, Lakeville South 2, Stillwater 1.
Class 5A
1. Alexandria (9), 6-0, 117
2. Moorhead (2), 6-0, 107
3. Owatonna (1), 6-0, 95
4. Andover, 5-1, 76
5. Robbinsdale Armstrong, 6-0, 74
6. Elk River, 5-1, 64
7. Mankato East, 5-1, 51
8. Two Rivers, 6-0, 3-1
9. Mankato West, 3-3, 9
10. (tie) Bemidji, 4-2, 8
10. Robbinsdale Cooper, 5-1, 8
Also receiving votes: St. Thomas Academy 6, Rochester John Marshall 5, Chanhassen 5, Monticello 2, Waconia 2.
Class 4A
1. Becker (11), 6-0, 118
2. Totino-Grace (1), 6-0, 106
3. Orono, 6-0, 100
4. Princeton, 6-0, 82
5. Byron, 5-1, 66
6. Providence Academy, 4-2, 49
7. Marshall, 5-1, 45
8. Rocori, 4-2, 30
9. Hill-Murray, 5-1, 24
10. Hermantown, 5-1, 14
Also receiving votes: Duluth Denfeld 6, North Branch 6, Holy Angels 5, Kasson-Mantorville 4, Minneapolis Camden 4, Hutchinson 1
Class 3A
1. Stewartville (11), 6-0, 119
2. Dassel-Cokato, 6-0, 104
3. Pequot Lakes (1), 6-0, 93
4. Albany, 6-0, 86
5, Waseca, 5-1, 62
6. Fergus Falls, 6-0, 54
7. Fairmont, 5-1, 42
8. Morris Area/Chokio-Alberta, 6-0, 41
9. Pine Island, 5-1, 23
10. Annandale, 5-1, 14
Also receiving votes: Luverne 13, Pierz 6, Holy Family 2, Zimmerman 1
CLASS 2A
1. Barnesville (8), 6-0, 113
2. Chatfield (3), 6-0, 100
3. Eden Valley-Watkins (1), 6-0, 98
4. Jackson County Central, 6-0, 81
5. Caledonia, 5-1, 64
6. Norwood Young America, 6-0, 6-0
7. Barnum, 6-0, 46
8. Cannon Falls, 5-1, 29
9. Kimball Area, 6-0, 25
10. Holdingford, 5-1, 10
Also receiving votes: Rush City 8, Staples-Motley 7, Moose Lake-Willow River 6, Waterville-Elysian-Morristown 3, Pipestone 1, St. Agnes 1
CLASS 1A
1. Minneota (12), 6-0, 120
2. Springfield, 6-0, 104
3. Mahnomen/Waubun, 6-0, 94
4, Goodhue, 6-0, 89
5. Upsala/Swanville, 6-0, 67
6. BOLD, 5-1, 63
7. (tie) Ada-Borup West, 5-1, 33
7. (tie) Belgrade-Brooten-Elrosa, 5-1, 33
9. Blooming Prairie, 5-1, 23
10. Fillmore Central, 5-1, 19
Also receiving votes: Dawson-Boyd 5, Lester Prairie 4, Red Lake County 4, West Central Area 3, Adrian/Ellsworth 1, Parkers Prairie 1.
NINE-PLAYER
1. Nevis (8), 6-0, 116
2. Mountain Iron-Buhl (3), 6-0, 105
3. Fertile-Beltrami (1), 6-0, 85
4. Hills-Beaver Creek, 6-0, 79
5. LeRoy-Ostrander/Lyle/Pacelli, 6-0, 64
6. Cherry, 6-0, 62
7. Spring Grove, 6-0, 54
8. Fosston, 6-0, 38
9. Hancock, 6-0, 28
10. Stephen-Argyle, 6-0, 12
Also receiving votes: Kingsland 4, Goodridge/Grygla-Gatzke 3
Click to expand...
Who voted for 3-3 Stillwater who just lost to 0-5 (now 1-5 white bear lake)?

Who voted for 3-3 STMA who just lost to 1-4 (now 2-4 osseo).

I’m not sure who 7+ in the poll should be, but those two ain’t it.

I’d probably go:
1) maple grove 6-0
2) lakeville north 6-0
3) Minnetonka 5-1
4) shakopee 5-1
5) Edina 4-2
6) Eagan 4-2
7) anoka 4-2
8) Blaine 4-2
9) Eden prairie (top 6 have combined for 1 loss to teams not in top 6 and it was last week to Eden prairie) 3-3
10) lakeville south (beat farmington) 3-3

11) Farmington (beat Moundsview) 3-3
12) Moundsview (beat forest lake) 4-2
13) forest lake (2 losses) 4-2


14) centennial 3-3, no quality wins
15) STMA 3-3, no quality wins with a bad loss
16) Stillwater, 3-3 with a bad loss but best Moundview
17) east ridge, 3-3 lost to Stillwater


After 17, everyone else is 2-4 or worse OR a relief team
 
Last edited:

MaxyJR1 said:
Demographics are passing them by.
Click to expand...
Enrollment and Low-income levels by schools from the Metro-West district (via greatschools.org):

Eden Prairie: 2,833 Students/ 31% low income

Edina: 2,720 Students/ 20% low income

Minnetonka: 3,508 Students/ 11% low income

Prior Lake: 2,857 Students/ 18% low income

Shakopee: 2,770 Students/ 38% low-income

Wayzata: 3,523 Students/ 14% low income

Minnetonka and Wayzata definitely seem to have a competitive advantage when it comes to the factors of enrollment and income.
 

Some guy said:
Who voted for 3-3 Stillwater who just lost to 0-5 (now 1-5 white bear lake)?

Who voted for 3-3 STMA who just lost to 1-4 (now 2-4 osseo).

I’m not sure who 7+ in the poll should be, but those two ain’t it.

I’d probably go:
1) maple grove 6-0
2) lakeville north 6-0
3) Minnetonka 5-1
4) shakopee 5-1
5) Edina 4-2
6) Eagan 4-2
7) anoka 4-2
8) Blaine 4-2
9) Eden prairie (top 6 have combined for 1 loss to teams not in top 6 and it was last week to Eden prairie) 3-3
10) lakeville south (beat farmington) 3-3

11) Farmington (beat Moundsview) 3-3
12) Moundsview (beat forest lake) 4-2
13) forest lake (2 losses) 4-2


14) centennial 3-3, no quality wins
15) STMA 3-3, no quality wins with a bad loss
16) Stillwater, 3-3 with a bad loss but best Moundview
17) east ridge, 3-3 lost to Stillwater


After 17, everyone else is 2-4 or worse OR a relief team
Click to expand...
Can’t disagree with any of these. Big game this week between Eagan and Forest Lake.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Can’t disagree with any of these. Big game this week between Eagan and Forest Lake.
Click to expand...
Starting to be more crossover again this week.
Being able to compare teams between the 4 sections becomes a bit easier.
Barring upsets, seeding pretty close to done:

South:
1) north
2) eagan
3) south
4) farmington - the best 4? Or EP
5) mayo
6) rosemount - the best 6…may finish 1-7 but they have a top 10 defense in the state and will be a tough out)
7) Eastview
8) Burnsville

West:
1) Tonka
2) shakopee - the best 2
3) Edina - the best 3
4) Eden Prairie - the best 4? (or farmington)
5) prior lake - the best 5 (I think, don’t love any of the 5s)
6) wayzata
7) Buffalo - the best 7? (Or osseo)
8) Hopkins - the best 8

North:
1) maple grove - the best 1
2) anoka
3) Blaine
4) centennial
5) STMA
6) Champlin park
7) osseo - the best 7? (Or Buffalo)
8) coon rapids

East:
1) Moundsview
2) forest lake
3) Stillwater
4) east ridge
5) woodbury
6) white bear lake
7) Roseville
8) park
 

Game of the week is white bear lake vs Roseville

No relief team has beaten a non relief team through 1.75 seasons.
Before last week I thought Roseville had a chance.
With white bear beating Stillwater last week, probably have to pick white bear lake.


Week 8 Buffalo plays prior lake. The best of the relief Vs a 5 seed team. I would pick prior lake.

Those are the two best shots
 

You must log in or register to reply here.



Top Bottom