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Some guy said:
I know. That’s why you’re so funny. You’re mad at me for saying the exact same thing as you. Why are you mad?

I am saying there are a lot of factors. If the gophers go to rate bowl or pinstripe they really weren’t passed over. Meanwhile you’re over here agreeing with everything I’ve said but for some reason you think you’re disagreeing with me?


If we go to a bowl lower than Nebraska or Rutgers it means based on a number of factors we are going to the rate or pinstripe bowl. Those factors could include but are not limited to:
Overall record being tied with Rutgers
Losing to Rutgers
Losing to Michigan
Proximity to site of game
Rutgers going to pinstripe bowl last year
Nebraska not having been to a bowl in forever
The rule of no repeat bowl being relaxed to more of a preference post conference expansion
Etc


And you agree with everything I just said except when I say “we didn’t really get passed over”

I don’t get what you’re disagreeing with
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Yet you're still taking exception with me pointing out that head-to-head record doesn't equate to bowl placement. No matter how many rage post reponses you give me.....that hasn't changed since last night.
 

stocker08 said:
Yet you're still taking exception with me pointing out that head-to-head record doesn't equate to bowl placement. No matter how many rage post reponses you give me.....that hasn't changed since last night.
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I never said it did. You’re saying I said it did.
I am not taking exception to you saying something I never said isn’t true.
You are correct. Head to head doesn’t equate to bowl placement. You just won an argument nobody is making against you.


I disagreed with you when you said it NEVER factors. I do not disagree with you if you say it doesn’t always factor.
 

Some guy said:
I never said it did. You’re saying I said it did.
I am not taking exception to you saying something I never said isn’t true.
You are correct. Head to head doesn’t equate to bowl placement. You just won an argument nobody is making against you.


I disagreed with you when you said it NEVER factors. I do not disagree with you if you say it doesn’t always factor.
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My point was that head-to-head doesn't equate to bowl pecking order in response to your post saying that we wouldn't be getting "pushed down" if Rutgers were place at a better destination.

Since then....all you've done is deflect, deflect, deflect.....despite the fact that you've basically been agreeing with me in a roundabout way.
 

stocker08 said:
My point was that head-to-head doesn't equate to bowl pecking order in response to your post saying that we wouldn't be getting "pushed down" if Rutgers were place at a better destination.

Since then....all you've done is deflect, deflect, deflect.....despite the fact that you've basically been agreeing with me in a roundabout way.
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We wouldn’t be getting pushed down, we would be getting placed in a a different bowl based on a number of factors that would be justifiable based on a lot of criteria


Im not agreeing with you in a roundabout way. I am agreeing with you in a direct way. Yet somehow you’re offended.

Head to head doesn’t equate to pecking order.
Head to head can be a factor in placement but isn’t always.
 

stocker08 said:
My point was that head-to-head doesn't equate to bowl pecking order in response to your post saying that we wouldn't be getting "pushed down" if Rutgers were place at a better destination.

Since then....all you've done is deflect, deflect, deflect.....despite the fact that you've basically been agreeing with me in a roundabout way.
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Your message board life will be easier if you use the blocking tool.
 



WilliamsArenaGuy said:
Why would the Pinstripe even be an option when we were there two years ago? Seems like that would the first one omitted from our options.
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Because the old rule says you needed 4 different teams in 6 years and the pinstripe bowl has already had 5 different teams in the last 6 years. Have had 6 different teams in the last 6 times they played the game.

The pinstripe bowl has had 9 different teams from the big ten the last 9 times the game was played.

Illinois never been
Ohio state hasn’t
Michigan hasn’t
Purdue hasn’t
Nebraska hasn’t

The last repeat big ten team was Rutgers in 2013 and 2023. But in 2013 Rutgers wasn’t in the big ten. And the pinstripe bowl wasn’t a big ten bowl.
 

this was the most uncomfortable agreement I have ever read through.

"What started as a small disagreement, escalated to a profound agreement that resulted in a physical altercation. We have witness reactions at 10:00 PM."
 

Some guy said:
We wouldn’t be getting pushed down, we would be getting placed in a a different bowl based on a number of factors that would be justifiable based on a lot of criteria


Im not agreeing with you in a roundabout way. I am agreeing with you in a direct way. Yet somehow you’re offended.

Head to head doesn’t equate to pecking order.
Head to head can be a factor in placement but isn’t always.
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Offended? No. Confused about why you've been so obstinate in your attempts to deflect from the post saying that we wouldn't be getting "pushed down" because of a head-to-head with Rutgers.....yes.

Lots of things go into bowl placements. It's undeniable that the Gophers have ended up on the short end of things ("pushed down") repeatedly in the past 4-5 years. Getting a better or worse bowl than any team not in the playoffs (or Illinois) has nothing to do with one aspect of the season as we've seen.
 




Schnauzer said:
this was the most uncomfortable agreement I have ever read through.

"What started as a small disagreement, escalated to a profound agreement that resulted in a physical altercation. We have witness reactions at 10:00 PM."
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Unregistered User said:
Get a room.
And stop posting in this thread.
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Sorry. We can put the bowl placement bitching on ice for another six days.
 

with all due respect, I am 99% sure that the fans of every other team in the B1G are having variations on this same argument: "we're getting screwed. we should have been in a better bowl."

to which I say - if you want to be in a better bowl, win more games.

If the Gophers and their fans want to be in a better bowl, then the Gophers needed to beat North Carolina and they needed to beat Rutgers. If the Gophers were 8-4 or 9-3, they are playing in a better bowl game - either one of the Florida bowls or Nashville.

instead, the Gophers are 7-5 and they are not in control of their destination.

Hey, they're not going to Detroit. they don't have to sneak in the back door because of good grades. so that's a plus.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
with all due respect, I am 99% sure that the fans of every other team in the B1G are having variations on this same argument: "we're getting screwed. we should have been in a better bowl."

to which I say - if you want to be in a better bowl, win more games.

If the Gophers and their fans want to be in a better bowl, then the Gophers needed to beat North Carolina and they needed to beat Rutgers. If the Gophers were 8-4 or 9-3, they are playing in a better bowl game - either one of the Florida bowls or Nashville.

instead, the Gophers are 7-5 and they are not in control of their destination.

Hey, they're not going to Detroit. they don't have to sneak in the back door because of good grades. so that's a plus.
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Basically agree with premise. Could have been a great season. They got beat, no excuses by Iowa and Rutgers, but Kesich misses 2 very makeable field goals vs UNC, got reffed vs Michigan and had a chance vs PSU. Shoulda woulda coulda been 9 - 3 or at least 8 - 4.on the other hand, won 1 possession games vs USC and Illinois (and I think UCLA. Too lazy to look) so maybe we are where we're supposed to be. ( Still think we're and 8 - 4 team 😉).
 



TNGophfan said:
Basically agree with premise. Could have been a great season. They got beat, no excuses by Iowa and Rutgers, but Kesich misses 2 very makeable field goals vs UNC, got reffed vs Michigan and had a chance vs PSU. Shoulda woulda coulda been 9 - 3 or at least 8 - 4.on the other hand, won 1 possession games vs USC and Illinois (and I think UCLA. Too lazy to look) so maybe we are where we're supposed to be. ( Still think we're and 8 - 4 team 😉).
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4-5 plays from 11-1
4-5 plays from 4-8
 


TNGophfan said:
Basically agree with premise. Could have been a great season. They got beat, no excuses by Iowa and Rutgers, but Kesich misses 2 very makeable field goals vs UNC, got reffed vs Michigan and had a chance vs PSU. Shoulda woulda coulda been 9 - 3 or at least 8 - 4.on the other hand, won 1 possession games vs USC and Illinois (and I think UCLA. Too lazy to look) so maybe we are where we're supposed to be. ( Still think we're and 8 - 4 team 😉).
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We as Gopher fans should consider it a pretty good season because we started the season at 2-3 and 0-3 against power conference teams but won five of the last seven games. But, to objective observers without an emotional attachment to the team, 7-5 is still only 7-5.

As far as "one-possession games," 7 of our 10 games against power conference teams were one-possession games: wins against USC, UCLA, Illinois and losses against North Carolina, Michigan, Rutgers, and Penn State. We beat Maryland and Wisconsin and lost to Iowa by more than two scores.

Minnesota probably is among the least watched of the conference teams among Big Ten fans but one could make a case that the Gophers' season was among the most compelling in the conference. Most of the time you got to see a close, competitive game with the outcome in doubt well into the fourth quarter. Can't say that if you were a fan of Indiana or Oregon.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
with all due respect, I am 99% sure that the fans of every other team in the B1G are having variations on this same argument: "we're getting screwed. we should have been in a better bowl."

to which I say - if you want to be in a better bowl, win more games.

If the Gophers and their fans want to be in a better bowl, then the Gophers needed to beat North Carolina and they needed to beat Rutgers. If the Gophers were 8-4 or 9-3, they are playing in a better bowl game - either one of the Florida bowls or Nashville.

instead, the Gophers are 7-5 and they are not in control of their destination.

Hey, they're not going to Detroit. they don't have to sneak in the back door because of good grades. so that's a plus.
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Totally agree. Pinstripe, Arizona, Dukes, or Music City are all suitable destinations based on the season they had.
 


Some guy said:
I never said it did. You’re saying I said it did.
I am not taking exception to you saying something I never said isn’t true.
You are correct. Head to head doesn’t equate to bowl placement. You just won an argument nobody is making against you.


I disagreed with you when you said it NEVER factors. I do not disagree with you if you say it doesn’t always factor.
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Reading this post made me feel like I'm baked out of my gourd.
 


After reading through all of this... I really need a Jack and Coke. I'm heading to the VFW. Maybe I can find some guys who know whether head to head results matter in bowl selection criteria.
 

Crosby said:
After reading through all of this... I really need a Jack and Coke. I'm heading to the VFW. Maybe I can find some guys who know whether head to head results matter in bowl selection criteria.
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They won't. Nobody truly does.
 





For whatever it’s worth.. hearing the Gophers are looking into accommodations for Charlotte and Arizona…
 

Some guy said:
We wouldn’t be getting pushed down, we would be getting placed in a a different bowl based on a number of factors that would be justifiable based on a lot of criteria


Im not agreeing with you in a roundabout way. I am agreeing with you in a direct way. Yet somehow you’re offended.

Head to head doesn’t equate to pecking order.
Head to head can be a factor in placement but isn’t always.
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Arguing on a message board with a stranger doesn't equate to wiener size.
 



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