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This seems to happen frequently. Why would Allen agree to that? What did he get out of it?Negotiated down to $15.5 million. Not bad money to not coach.
I believe the new payout isn’t affected if he takes a new job. Previously, the buyout would be reduced if he was hired elsewhere.This seems to happen frequently. Why would Allen agree to that? What did he get out of it?
Yeah, and he probably got more up front...if not all of it.I believe the new payout isn’t affected if he takes a new job. Previously, the buyout would be reduced if he was hired elsewhere.
Looks like no Ryan Day or Matt Rhule to TAMU.
Hope Jerry lands the job.It will be interesting to see who Indiana can attract, they are in a very similar position as Minnesota.
Kirk “Fair Catch” Ferentz.Now that Allen is out in Indiana, I guess that makes Fleck the 2nd longest-tenured coach in the Big Ten behind that guy at Iowa. I forget his name.
James Tiberius Kirk FerentzwhinerNow that Allen is out in Indiana, I guess that makes Fleck the 2nd longest-tenured coach in the Big Ten behind that guy at Iowa. I forget his name.
Franklin has been at PSU since 2014, Harbaugh at Mich since 2015.Now that Allen is out in Indiana, I guess that makes Fleck the 2nd longest-tenured coach in the Big Ten behind that guy at Iowa. I forget his name.
The west division.Now that Allen is out in Indiana, I guess that makes Fleck the 2nd longest-tenured coach in the Big Ten behind that guy at Iowa. I forget his name.
OK, I don't know where I got that, probably from some clueless TV analyst.Franklin has been at PSU since 2014, Harbaugh at Mich since 2015.
I was wondering what happened to himAnd trending the wrong way. We need a new group of Harvey McKay's to become boosters. I believe Harvey is/was part of the Paul Giel friend group that supported Gopher athletics and was generous in giving back to his community and university.
Here might be the only positive thing that Reusse ever wrote about PJ and he was calling for what is the biggest need (financial support for the program). Reusse wrote this after the Gophers destroyed CU and MSU to start the 2022 season 4-0.
Patrick Reusse: Maybe it's time I grab an oar
After a lengthy lunch with 89-year-old businessman and Gophers booster Harvey Mackay, columnist Patrick Reusse took a step back and reassessed his skepticism of the head coach and his team.www.startribune.com
"Harvey Mackay had a gruesome battle with COVID-19 during the midst of the pandemic. The restrictions were such that his wife, Carol Ann, was not able to visit Harvey during a long hospital stay in Arizona.
He turned the corner after several weeks; always slim, now extra-slim. He was back in Minnesota this summer, with a schedule full of calls, meetings, big plans and even golf.
Mackay will turn 90 on Oct. 24. On his 80th birthday, he was said to have thrown a weekend bash for celebrities, business contacts, publishing contacts and close friends in Las Vegas that was astounding in scope. He is going to repeat that for a 90th birthday bash in Phoenix in November.
My first awareness of Mackay in the sports realm was 50-plus years ago when he was trying to give some much-needed support to George Hanson as the Gophers men's basketball coach for the 1970-71 season.
Bill Fitch had resigned on May 30, 1970, to become the first coach of the expansion Cleveland Cavaliers. Hanson was promoted from being an assistant, the Gophers finished under .500 and athletic director Marsh Ryman decided to drop Hanson.
Williams Arena and the Gophers' athletic facilities as a whole were so ramshackle that Cal Luther, from Murray State in Kentucky, took the job, looked closer at what he was signing up for, and went back to the Racers.
Thus arrived Bill Musselman, 31, from Ashland University in Ohio, as wired-up as possible for a human being, and finding a dedicated partner in the indefatigable Mackay, then 39.
Boosters could recruit then, and Mackay was a frequent companion for Musselman on such trips. Rumors had it The Muss and Harvey believed in rewarding name, image and likeness for aspiring Gophers well in advance of it being fashionable.
Jon Roe, the legendary Gophers reporter for the Minneapolis newspaper, was privileged to cover Big Ten hoops when it was 10 teams and filled with coaches of giant-sized résumés.
My favorite Roe tale from those days was Michigan's Johnny Orr confronting Jon over the aggressive recruiting tactics undertaken by Musselman and Mackay in their attempt to land Campy Russell, the prep superstar from Pontiac, Mich.
Roe listened to Orr's indictment of the Gophers' recruiters and then said, "One question, Johnny. Where did Campy wind up?''
Orr had to admit the answer was, "Michigan.''
Post-Musselman, Harvey was excused from being a booster for his alma mater for a time, but when we needed a dome in downtown Minneapolis to mollify the Vikings, Harvey and Sid Hartman were loud voices in the civic effort.
And then came Mackay at his Harvey-ist:
With athletic director Paul Giel ailing after heart surgery, Harvey and a couple of associates delivered Lou Holtz (leaving Arkansas) to become the new Gophers coach in December 1983.
An excellent coach and an amazing bull slinger, and with the Vikings in decline … Minnesotans went insane for Lou.
Over in St. Paul, writing columns primarily for the afternoon Dispatch, I made as much fun of the over-the-top Holtz sales job as could be mustered. It was like spitting into a hurricane.
In 1984, Mackay became a brief, yet-memorable local TV star by marching to the Metrodome ticket windows to buy thousands of Twins' tickets on discount days – "The Buyout'' intended to enforce owner Calvin Griffith's lease to play there. In midseason, it was announced Carl Pohlad would be buying the team, at what always seemed an incredible bargain rate.
Four years later, Mackay released his first book on sales and business, "Swim With the Sharks Without Being Eaten Alive,'' and it started his decades-long run as a phenomenon of bookselling.
During this period, Harvey and I patched it up — my theory being, "He's ours and he's unique.''
Mackay hasn't always been right in observations passed along. One afternoon, my bride and I were flying to Phoenix for a vacation. Harvey came back from the front cabin and talked to us for 20 minutes — half of which was an endorsement of Tim Brewster, early in his tenure as Gophers football coach.
I managed in a quick retort: "I don't see it. Unlike your guy Lou, it's a hard sell without substance.''
Harvey and I had lunch last month. Around 80 minutes, and a much-needed sharpening of my listening skills.
Around 25% of the Harvey blitz was a full-fledged salute to P.J. Fleck, as he entered Season 6 as Gophers football coach.
"I've been around him; I've seen the way the players react to him,'' Mackay said. "You watch him dive into those players and surf across them after a victory … the enthusiasm he has for the players and them for him is world-class.''
So, not hearing a future siren call from Notre Dame, as did your man Lou after only two seasons?
"P.J. loves it here, and he knows he can win here,'' Mackay said. "We have a true star in this coach.''
OK, after the overwhelming start against chumps this season, and a solid chance to win Saturday at Michigan State, and with the Big Ten West crumbling as the Gophers rise, and in honor of the 90th birthday of my later-in-life friend Harvey, there's a revised outlook for this fall. Here goes:
I'm buying P.J. Fleck."
He already was...The west division.
I honestly thought Dan was done, he seemed to be enjoying the studio life and not having to deal with recruiting and boosters.I’d think he could get a bigger name program. However, Mullen has some ties that adds to the speculation, he is from Pennsylvania and was a grad assistant at Syracuse.
The division formerly known as the west division.The west division.
I think the tide is shifting in Indiana with football vs basketball. The Indy metro is starting to crank out more and more quality football recruits, due mostly to the Colts and Payton phenomenon.No they aren't. Indiana has three FBS teams in the state - Purdue, Notre Dame, and themselves. It's much much harder to recruit the top talent in the state, and there isn't that much in-state talent to begin with (it's a basketball state vs football).
Kane Womack is likely going to get that job, popular IU assistant who has South Alabama in the winning column.It will be interesting to see who Indiana can attract, they are in a very similar position as Minnesota.
No reason to move. Harbaugh will F things up in Michigan coming back to the pack. Firing a coach that has never lost a conference game outside of MI, would awaken the football Gods.He’s now 1-3 vs. MI and their fans are livid
I hope not for his sake. He needs to run out his career at a mostly stress free job like NMSU.Hope Jerry lands the job.
Hmm...Colts have been there for almost 40 years and Manning last played there 12 years ago. Must be a slow shifting tide.I think the tide is shifting in Indiana with football vs basketball. The Indy metro is starting to crank out more and more quality football recruits, due mostly to the Colts and Payton phenomenon.
Must be you get the one time payment of 15.5 or you get the full payment over 20 yrs.Negotiated down to $15.5 million. Not bad money to not coach.
If over time, it usually matches the length of the contract.Must be you get the one time payment of 15.5 or you get the full payment over 20 yrs.
12 years ago a 20 year old was 8 and chances are they followed him in Denver. Having good programs trickles down. Football is king.Hmm...Colts have been there for almost 40 years and Manning last played there 12 years ago. Must be a slow shifting tide.
About the time where Payton won the Super Bowl is when the shift started. Kids got interested in football and there are quite a few affluent, fast growing, school districts in the metro, so money was not a problem. This year one of local HS played IMG and hung with them until the 4th quarter, when IMG pulled away. Indiana will always be a basketball state, but football is catching up.Hmm...Colts have been there for almost 40 years and Manning last played there 12 years ago. Must be a slow shifting tide.
They generally have four 4* or better players in any given year in the state. Irish and Purdue get a couple of them.About the time where Payton won the Super Bowl is when the shift started. Kids got interested in football and there are quite a few affluent school districts in the metro, so money was not a problem. This year one of local HS played IMG and hung with them until the 4th quarter, when IMG pulled away. Indiana will always be a basketball state, but football is catching up.