2023-2024 College Football Coaches Hired/Fired Thread

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Interesting on the MSU hire. It will be interesting to see how many kids from out west he brings. He’s from California, played at Oregon State and has never coached east of Montana.

Recruiting in the new B1G will be interesting.
 




Smith to MSU surprises me a little. I see this as a lateral move at best. Oregon State is his Alma mater and he’s built that program into something good. Yes, the PAC-12 is going away and there is some uncertainty, but he could have made this move a year from now too because everyone knows he can coach. If they merge with the MWC, they could be the power in that league and if you still have a path to the playoffs, it’s gonna be easier to win at Oregon state than Michigan state.
 


U2Gopher said:
Smith to MSU surprises me a little. I see this as a lateral move at best. Oregon State is his Alma mater and he’s built that program into something good. Yes, the PAC-12 is going away and there is some uncertainty, but he could have made this move a year from now too because everyone knows he can coach. If they merge with the MWC, they could be the power in that league and if you still have a path to the playoffs, it’s gonna be easier to win at Oregon state than Michigan state.
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No way, that Ishbia money...
 




MplsGopher said:
Do people not realize that it is a purposeful strategy of people with few followers to throw out a bald faced lie, not knowing any actual thing, that is really shocking in the hopes that it will just happen to end up being right and then people will be like "OMG that guy knew!!" and gain a bunch of followers??

Sheep

That's literally how Flug made being a Twitter poster into a career, from literally not knowing a single person in any actual position of power.

Baaaaa
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Oh geez, thanks for enlightening us on this.🙄
 

Gopher_In_NYC said:
They said in College Football Final that Stoops confirmed he’s coming back to KY.

I can see Day doing the move to A&M
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Why in the world would he move? A&M has a completely outsized view of themselves as a program.
 








It will be interesting to see who Indiana can attract, they are in a very similar position as Minnesota.
 

the college football landscape has changed a lot.

as schools look to hire new coaches, I suspect that they will be looking for candidates who have shown the aptitude to adjust to the new reality of the Portal, NIL and realignment.

to quote Mr. Zimmerman:
Your old road is rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'
 


mkAz said:
It will be interesting to see who Indiana can attract, they are in a very similar position as Minnesota.
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No they aren't. Indiana has three FBS teams in the state - Purdue, Notre Dame, and themselves. It's much much harder to recruit the top talent in the state, and there isn't that much in-state talent to begin with (it's a basketball state vs football).
 

SomeGopherFan said:
20.4 million dollar buyout for Allen...yikes.
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Yeah, I’m shocked. Not because I think Allen is incredible (he’s competent), but that money is eye watering for a program like IU. I’m surprised they didn’t instead sprinkle that amount towards assistants and/or NIL — assuming most of it is covered by boosters. Just doesn’t seem very smart to me.
 

Full Speed Ahead said:
No they aren't. Indiana has three FBS teams in the state - Purdue, Notre Dame, and themselves. It's much much harder to recruit the top talent in the state, and there isn't that much in-state talent to begin with (it's a basketball state vs football).
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They are a middle rung B1G team with recruiting challenges and limited NIL money, that is exactly like the Gophers.
 

@mkAz if they have 20 whatever million to make Allen go away, then they most certainly are not all the way down in same position as MN.

We easily have to be one of the poorest, if not the poorest, P5 school in terms of rich people willing to donate money towards football-specific goals.

Bet we’re the worst. Name a single rich person who cares deeply about Gopher football.
 



MplsGopher said:
@mkAz if they have 20 whatever million to make Allen go away, then they most certainly are not all the way down in same position as MN.

We easily have to be one of the poorest, if not the poorest, P5 school in terms of rich people willing to donate money towards football-specific goals.

Bet we’re the worst. Name a single rich person who cares deeply about Gopher football.
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And trending the wrong way. We need a new group of Harvey McKay's to become boosters. I believe Harvey is/was part of the Paul Giel friend group that supported Gopher athletics and was generous in giving back to his community and university.

Here might be the only positive thing that Reusse ever wrote about PJ and he was calling for what is the biggest need (financial support for the program). Reusse wrote this after the Gophers destroyed CU and MSU to start the 2022 season 4-0.
www.startribune.com

Patrick Reusse: Maybe it's time I grab an oar

After a lengthy lunch with 89-year-old businessman and Gophers booster Harvey Mackay, columnist Patrick Reusse took a step back and reassessed his skepticism of the head coach and his team.
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"Harvey Mackay had a gruesome battle with COVID-19 during the midst of the pandemic. The restrictions were such that his wife, Carol Ann, was not able to visit Harvey during a long hospital stay in Arizona.
He turned the corner after several weeks; always slim, now extra-slim. He was back in Minnesota this summer, with a schedule full of calls, meetings, big plans and even golf.
Mackay will turn 90 on Oct. 24. On his 80th birthday, he was said to have thrown a weekend bash for celebrities, business contacts, publishing contacts and close friends in Las Vegas that was astounding in scope. He is going to repeat that for a 90th birthday bash in Phoenix in November.
My first awareness of Mackay in the sports realm was 50-plus years ago when he was trying to give some much-needed support to George Hanson as the Gophers men's basketball coach for the 1970-71 season.
Bill Fitch had resigned on May 30, 1970, to become the first coach of the expansion Cleveland Cavaliers. Hanson was promoted from being an assistant, the Gophers finished under .500 and athletic director Marsh Ryman decided to drop Hanson.
Williams Arena and the Gophers' athletic facilities as a whole were so ramshackle that Cal Luther, from Murray State in Kentucky, took the job, looked closer at what he was signing up for, and went back to the Racers.
Thus arrived Bill Musselman, 31, from Ashland University in Ohio, as wired-up as possible for a human being, and finding a dedicated partner in the indefatigable Mackay, then 39.
Boosters could recruit then, and Mackay was a frequent companion for Musselman on such trips. Rumors had it The Muss and Harvey believed in rewarding name, image and likeness for aspiring Gophers well in advance of it being fashionable.
Jon Roe, the legendary Gophers reporter for the Minneapolis newspaper, was privileged to cover Big Ten hoops when it was 10 teams and filled with coaches of giant-sized résumés.
My favorite Roe tale from those days was Michigan's Johnny Orr confronting Jon over the aggressive recruiting tactics undertaken by Musselman and Mackay in their attempt to land Campy Russell, the prep superstar from Pontiac, Mich.
Roe listened to Orr's indictment of the Gophers' recruiters and then said, "One question, Johnny. Where did Campy wind up?''
Orr had to admit the answer was, "Michigan.''
Post-Musselman, Harvey was excused from being a booster for his alma mater for a time, but when we needed a dome in downtown Minneapolis to mollify the Vikings, Harvey and Sid Hartman were loud voices in the civic effort.
And then came Mackay at his Harvey-ist:
With athletic director Paul Giel ailing after heart surgery, Harvey and a couple of associates delivered Lou Holtz (leaving Arkansas) to become the new Gophers coach in December 1983.
An excellent coach and an amazing bull slinger, and with the Vikings in decline … Minnesotans went insane for Lou.
Over in St. Paul, writing columns primarily for the afternoon Dispatch, I made as much fun of the over-the-top Holtz sales job as could be mustered. It was like spitting into a hurricane.
In 1984, Mackay became a brief, yet-memorable local TV star by marching to the Metrodome ticket windows to buy thousands of Twins' tickets on discount days – "The Buyout'' intended to enforce owner Calvin Griffith's lease to play there. In midseason, it was announced Carl Pohlad would be buying the team, at what always seemed an incredible bargain rate.
Four years later, Mackay released his first book on sales and business, "Swim With the Sharks Without Being Eaten Alive,'' and it started his decades-long run as a phenomenon of bookselling.
During this period, Harvey and I patched it up — my theory being, "He's ours and he's unique.''
Mackay hasn't always been right in observations passed along. One afternoon, my bride and I were flying to Phoenix for a vacation. Harvey came back from the front cabin and talked to us for 20 minutes — half of which was an endorsement of Tim Brewster, early in his tenure as Gophers football coach.
I managed in a quick retort: "I don't see it. Unlike your guy Lou, it's a hard sell without substance.''
Harvey and I had lunch last month. Around 80 minutes, and a much-needed sharpening of my listening skills.
Around 25% of the Harvey blitz was a full-fledged salute to P.J. Fleck, as he entered Season 6 as Gophers football coach.
"I've been around him; I've seen the way the players react to him,'' Mackay said. "You watch him dive into those players and surf across them after a victory … the enthusiasm he has for the players and them for him is world-class.''
So, not hearing a future siren call from Notre Dame, as did your man Lou after only two seasons?
"P.J. loves it here, and he knows he can win here,'' Mackay said. "We have a true star in this coach.''
OK, after the overwhelming start against chumps this season, and a solid chance to win Saturday at Michigan State, and with the Big Ten West crumbling as the Gophers rise, and in honor of the 90th birthday of my later-in-life friend Harvey, there's a revised outlook for this fall. Here goes:
I'm buying P.J. Fleck."
 

I bet Allen would have kept his job if he could only spell "Indinia" right.
 

MplsGopher said:
@mkAz if they have 20 whatever million to make Allen go away, then they most certainly are not all the way down in same position as MN.

We easily have to be one of the poorest, if not the poorest, P5 school in terms of rich people willing to donate money towards football-specific goals.

Bet we’re the worst. Name a single rich person who cares deeply about Gopher football.
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You don’t know that. Maybe they just won’t give money to Coyle, Johnson and Fleck?
 


Looks like no Ryan Day or Matt Rhule to TAMU.

 

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