2022 Transfer Portal Discussion

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tjgopher said:
Speaking of "mid-major" talent, I noticed a kid from Woodbury playing for Davidson yesterday in the A-10 championship. Michael Jones. Solid player. Looked up his stats -- 12 ppg/4 rpg, good shooter (career 41% 3pt), good floor game yesterday, key player on a conference title team. 52 career starts. His bio says he shot 49% on 3pt at Woodbury, averaged 32 pts/game as a senior.

Didn't appear super athletic, but is 6-5 and thick. Looked like a better version of Luke Loewe to me. Missed his freshman year at Davidson with injury, so he's a fourth-year player with two years of eligibility left after this year.

No idea what he wants to do, if anything. But, if he wanted to take his Davidson degree and transfer "up" for his final two years of eligibility, I think I'd take him as a key reserve for the Gophers. Obviously, only reason I bring him up is he's from MN, which could be a draw for him. No idea what his intentions are, as I had never heard of him before seeing him in that A10 game yesterday.

Total speculation on my part, apologies if this is the wrong thread to offer this info.
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Absolutely love the uninformed & reckless speculation! Haha, but actually- keeping tabs on former Minnesotans will probably be very key to CBJ: he relates to them best
 





MennoSota said:
Kendal Coleman Stats

He's only 6'8" and plays center. Is he a difference maker in the paint?
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EJ Liddell is only listed at 6'8". I'm not saying he's EJ Liddell but a 6'8" guy who has athleticism and power can still make a big difference in this league. Coleman was over 20 in PER in each of his first two years. He averaged 15.4 points per game and 10.1 rebounds a game in 28.6 minutes per game this past season. On a 40 minute basis, that's 21.6 points and 14.2 rebounds per game. Even if he averaged only 9.0 points and 8 rebounds a game in the Big Ten, he'd be way better than anyone we had this season.
 







fan of Ray Williams said:
What about Neal Quinn? 7 foot, 280 (EJ can tell him he can play until he faints.)
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Yes, of course, if we can get him. I have some doubts that we can but we definitely should try.

We should leave out that proposed advice from EJ, though. I don't think that's a great selling point.

Lafayette also has a senior point guard in the portal (he entered months ago but continued playing for his team until the end) who is worth looking at as well.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
He was actually a highly rated 4* recruit out of high school with a ton of offers, and chose Princeton. I'm going to guess he'll have no shortage of offers once again.
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Yes, he will and he will be very difficult to get. He went to Virginia Episcopal School so I would assume he will have no shortage of ACC offers to consider and more than a few outside of the ACC.

I know the princess kissed the frog in the fairy tale and turned him into a prince but, in reality, princesses rarely kiss frogs.
 
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GopherWeatherGuy said:
He was actually a highly rated 4* recruit out of high school with a ton of offers, and chose Princeton. I'm going to guess he'll have no shortage of offers once again.
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I know the offer from MN isn't listed on his profile but I thought we either offered or recruited him when he came out of HS
 

cjbfbp said:
Yes, of course, if we can get him. I have some doubts that we can but we definitely should try.

We should leave out that proposed advice from EJ, though. I don't think that's a great selling point.

Lafayette also has a senior point guard in the portal (he entered months ago but continued playing for his team until the end) who is worth looking at as well.
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Him and Perry could be a package deal. Damn, that big guy turns it over too much, but he's an assist machine.
 

fan of Ray Williams said:
Him and Perry could be a package deal. Damn, that big guy turns it over too much, but he's an assist machine.
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That package deal sounds great to me (who knows, though, maybe they don't like each other!). 4 assists per game is fantastic for a big man. You know he's not a black hole. He also has the sheer size and girth to keep people away from the basket. Rebounding could be a little better though.
 

Spottedmuskie said:
Players like Stephens Loewe, and Sutherlin are player we want in 7-9 depth chart, not two starting. Stephens and Loewe got eaten alive physically
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Transfers who were the best player on their team likely aren't going to transfer to a program where they will play 10-15 mpg. They will want some assurance that they will see lots of PT.

Said that, I can see a big and a PG thinking there is lots of PT available at Minnesota.
 

MinnGopher said:
I know the offer from MN isn't listed on his profile but I thought we either offered or recruited him when he came out of HS
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Minnesota definitely recruited him out of high school. As mentioned previously, he was a 4 star recruit who chose Princeton over a number of high majors.
 

Bayfieldgopher said:
Transfers who were the best player on their team likely aren't going to transfer to a program where they will play 10-15 mpg. They will want some assurance that they will see lots of PT.

Said that, I can see a big and a PG thinking there is lots of PT available at Minnesota.
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PG for sure, maybe shooting guards too, although not having a true point guard on the roster this season didn't work out too badly. Although we missed Carr's scoring this season, we didn't miss his ball dominance.

Depending upon the quality of the big man transfer, playing lots of minutes could be a little less certain. If the two injured players are fully rehabilitated and no one transfers, de-commits, or gets injured, we're heading into next season with five front court players (excluding Battle). We definitely should recruit a center type player but probably no more front court players.

You're right, for a team like ours, good transfers are going to want a clear vision of significant playing time. Perhaps Theo John realized he wouldn't play as much at Duke and traded off playing time for national exposure and expected team success but my guess is that Chris Vogt probably figured he'd play more than 13 minutes per game at Wisconsin.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
He was actually a highly rated 4* recruit out of high school with a ton of offers, and chose Princeton. I'm going to guess he'll have no shortage of offers once again.
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I saw a story listing these schools as having reached out to him:

Alabama, Arkansas, Vanderbilt, Stanford, Minnesota, DePaul, Northwestern, Creighton, Western Kentucky, Clemson, Cal, West Virginia, Butler, Ohio State, UNLV, Georgetown, George Mason, SMU, Cincinnati, Iowa State, Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Seton Hall, Providence, Texas A&M, Miami, Memphis, Ole Miss, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Washington State.
 

cjbfbp said:
PG for sure, maybe shooting guards too, although not having a true point guard on the roster this season didn't work out too badly. Although we missed Carr's scoring this season, we didn't miss his ball dominance.

Depending upon the quality of the big man transfer, playing lots of minutes could be a little less certain. If the two injured players are fully rehabilitated and no one transfers, de-commits, or gets injured, we're heading into next season with five front court players (excluding Battle). We definitely should recruit a center type player but probably no more front court players.

You're right, for a team like ours, good transfers are going to want a clear vision of significant playing time. Perhaps Theo John realized he wouldn't play as much at Duke and traded off playing time for national exposure and expected team success but my guess is that Chris Vogt probably figured he'd play more than 13 minutes per game at Wisconsin.
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I think a true center would emerge with a clearly different role than the other front court players. I'm risk averse as well, so counting on players returning from significant injuries doesn't elicit a lot of confidence in me. We have five front court players, but I think it is a big assumption that both of them would be giving us 100% of what they were pre-injury. Since one was a D-II player and one had limited minutes, I'm not sure either one offers high level assurances of performance or good health.
 

Holy Man said:
I think a true center would emerge with a clearly different role than the other front court players. I'm risk averse as well, so counting on players returning from significant injuries doesn't elicit a lot of confidence in me. We have five front court players, but I think it is a big assumption that both of them would be giving us 100% of what they were pre-injury. Since one was a D-II player and one had limited minutes, I'm not sure either one offers high level assurances of performance or good health.
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Excellent post! These mishaps that prevent players from seeing the court should be expected; they're frequent occurrences, not exceptions. I didn't mention one of the conditions you allude to: that the players we have in the front court just won't perform as well as we hoped. That's probably the most common of the unfortunate occurrences!

I do believe that a true center of quality would earn substantial minutes on this team. I'm just not confident that we can get a high quality one and may have to settle for a moderate quality one (that would still leave us in much better shape than this season if other things go well). In that case, there might be more lineup rotations in the front court.
 

Holy Man said:
I think a true center would emerge with a clearly different role than the other front court players. I'm risk averse as well, so counting on players returning from significant injuries doesn't elicit a lot of confidence in me. We have five front court players, but I think it is a big assumption that both of them would be giving us 100% of what they were pre-injury. Since one was a D-II player and one had limited minutes, I'm not sure either one offers high level assurances of performance or good health.
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Good call, I think Payne probably has some versatility to play the 4 as well. He will most likely get solid minutes regardless, but I don't think it would hurt to grab a transfer that would allow Payne to play more like 15 a game as opposed to 25. As cjbfjb said, also give us another rotation that adds to our versatility which is a great point.
 


cjbfbp said:
PG for sure, maybe shooting guards too, although not having a true point guard on the roster this season didn't work out too badly.
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I know this is always said about this team but when I look at Willis he may be a better shooting guard than point guard but he does very well at both. He is a true combo guard and can do both well. He did a great job handling the ball this year, 4.25 assists/game, 2.4 assist/TO ratio, 5 rebounds/game, 16 pts/game and leading on the floor. The only thing he could be better at as a "true" point guard is more assists/game. If he had only played point guard he would have been considered a true point guard. Maybe he should have been called a true combo guard.
cjbfbp said:
Although we missed Carr's scoring this season, we didn't miss his ball dominance.
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cjbfbp said:
Depending upon the quality of the big man transfer, playing lots of minutes could be a little less certain. If the two injured players are fully rehabilitated and no one transfers, de-commits, or gets injured, we're heading into next season with five front court players (excluding Battle). We definitely should recruit a center type player but probably no more front court players.

You're right, for a team like ours, good transfers are going to want a clear vision of significant playing time. Perhaps Theo John realized he wouldn't play as much at Duke and traded off playing time for national exposure and expected team success but my guess is that Chris Vogt probably figured he'd play more than 13 minutes per game at Wisconsin.
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touchdownvikings said:
I saw a story listing these schools as having reached out to him:

Alabama, Arkansas, Vanderbilt, Stanford, Minnesota, DePaul, Northwestern, Creighton, Western Kentucky, Clemson, Cal, West Virginia, Butler, Ohio State, UNLV, Georgetown, George Mason, SMU, Cincinnati, Iowa State, Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Seton Hall, Providence, Texas A&M, Miami, Memphis, Ole Miss, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Washington State.
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That’s all???
 

Ragnor said:
I know this is always said about this team but when I look at Willis he may be a better shooting guard than point guard but he does very well at both. He is a true combo guard and can do both well. He did a great job handling the ball this year, 4.25 assists/game, 2.4 assist/TO ratio, 5 rebounds/game, 16 pts/game and leading on the floor. The only thing he could be better at as a "true" point guard is more assists/game. If he had only played point guard he would have been considered a true point guard. Maybe he should have been called a true combo guard.

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I thought Willis did a really good job this season. He got a little dribble-happy as the season wound down, but I think other teams figured us out and we just didn't have the personnel to counterpunch. I think that really gummed up the gears of the motion offense.

A "true" (whatever that means) point guard is nice to have and I hope we can land one, but a team can still be successful without one. Really need a couple of bangers in the #4 and #5. Getting Fox and Ihnen back, seeing some development from Thompson, and having Payne arrive should help, but still need more muscle.
 

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