2022 Transfer Portal Discussion

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cjbfbp said:
There's also no harm in pointing out that such a devotion of time, emotion, and mental energy to Walton exhibits an almost fanatical narrow mindedness.
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Gopherholers exhibit such behavior routinely. What's the big deal? No one with any authority or power uses GH as a source of decision making.
 




cjbfbp said:
"Coaches" is a plural word. Plus a potential coach is more important than any single potential recruit.

That's different than spending so much time speculating about one player when there is a transfer portal full of players. There is also another potential pathology that may be at work here: some people may be most invested in the players who spurned us in the past and care more about proving we can get them rather than any particular attributes of the player. Sort of like pining most for the girls who shot you down in the past.
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Maybe, or maybe he is just the name people know cause he is local so people are just more apt to focus on him. You act like he is the only player people have obsessed about the last few years...

And again, why is it bad that randos on a message board are worried about a single player? It doesn't have any affect on anything.
 

cjbfbp said:
As to that top question: No! Garcia had left UNC in midseason and returned to Minnesota. He would have an easier time transferring here than anywhere else. Additionally, Garcia was a significant talent who played in the front court where the supply of good players is far smaller.

As to your second point, I don't have much sympathy for that. I realize that the majority of people are only interested in things they already know. I consider that a mental deficiency. Nothing irritates me more than when a good band playing at a small-town festival plays a really good but more obscure song very well and they get little response to it. But, if they break into the millionth lame ass cover of Sweet Caroline, Sweet Home Alabama, or I Walk the Line; the whole place perks up.

I prefer the Mae West philosophy --- When given a choice between two evils, I always pick the one I haven't tried before.
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Jesus...how in love with yourself are you? You sound like every prick who "liked the band before they were popular" and makes sure everyone knows it because they say it every time the band comes up.
 

cjbfbp said:
Nothing irritates me more than when a good band playing at a small-town festival plays a really good but more obscure song very well and they get little response to it. But, if they break into the millionth lame ass cover of Sweet Caroline, Sweet Home Alabama, or I Walk the Line; the whole place perks up.
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If that is indeed the most irritating thing you have to encounter, then congrats to you.
 



Dave H said:
Maybe, or maybe he is just the name people know cause he is local so people are just more apt to focus on him. You act like he is the only player people have obsessed about the last few years...

And again, why is it bad that randos on a message board are worried about a single player? It doesn't have any affect on anything.
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Your son should have played at the U
 

Probably a futile question, but any news on Eric Hunter? Did he have a top 5, top 3 or anything like that?
Apologies, didn't realize he entered the draft evaluation.
 
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fan of Ray Williams said:
Probably a futile question, but any news on Eric Hunter? Did he have a top 5, top 3 or anything like that?
Apologies, didn't realize he entered the draft evaluation.
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How long is draft evaluation? Could be a major uptick or free for all after it’s over and many players go searching for a college.
 

A pretty big number of guys who enter into the NBA draft evaluation process I would think return to their same school? Dunno, but certainly some...
 



Holy Man said:
How long is draft evaluation? Could be a major uptick or free for all after it’s over and many players go searching for a college.
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According to this story about a Michigan player testing the waters it looks like the deadline for underclassmen to declare has passed and they have until June 1st to withdraw from the draft and return to college.

www.freep.com

Michigan basketball's Moussa Diabate enters NBA draft, maintains collegiate eligibility

Michigan basketball power forward Moussa Diabate decided to enter the 2022 NBA draft process while maintaining his collegiate eligibility.
www.freep.com
 



ecoperson said:
Reread your post to see why the 'majority' on the GopherHole think of you as smug and condescending.

As for your belief that focusing on what we already know is somehow small minded in the recruiting game, let me play this out a bit...

"Former 4 star De'Vion Harmon entered the portal yesterday from Oregon after playing his first two years at Oklahoma. He's a 6 foot point guard with a reputation for being a good distributor. I think that he would be a great fit for the Gophers!"

You know what I as a reader would think if I saw someone post this? Who the heck is De'Vion Harmon?! It seems fruitless to just start pulling seemingly random names out of literally hundreds still in the portal and begin assessing the chances of them coming to the Gophers.

Should we start an All Things De'Vion Harmon thread? No... there is no indication that he has an interest in MN nor that MN is interested in him. There is no information connecting him to the Gophers so why waste my time as a fan getting involved?

The coaching staff, however, is certainly combing the portal and researching potential targets on a daily basis. They have the resources and coaching connections to kick the tires on nearly any candidate that can truly play at this level. Until we fans know that some random player has scheduled a visit, we shouldn't get too involved.

Former Minnesota prep players are an exception. One can more easily make that leap because of the preexisting connection they have with the state. Why the Gophers? Because they are from here. Nearly all of the negatives that are presented as barriers to success here (it's too cold, it's too far away from other population centers, etc.) can be easily explained away by Minnesota players because they already know all of the positives about the area.

Had Garcia NOT been from MN, we would not have talked about the Gophers being a possible landing spot. Harmon has no known connection to MN so why should I talk about him?

Of note, I have personally NOT been talking about Walton as I have yet to see his name in the portal. I have not added him to the transfer grid for that reason.

As for Mae West, that's a fine attitude for a fling but I want to be sure the person that I am marrying has all of the goods.
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I made this point before, there might be a lot of bodies in the portal yet, but a good chunk of them are not even close to B1G worthy.
 


leib0039 said:

I made this point before, there might be a lot of bodies in the portal yet, but a good chunk of them are not even close to B1G worthy.
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What percentage of the top 250- let's call them the possibly Big Ten worthy players- are now attached to a new school? Does anyone know at this point where than sits?
 


bga1 said:
What percentage of the top 250- let's call them the possibly Big Ten worthy players- are now attached to a new school? Does anyone know at this point where than sits?
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Not sure how you would go about finding that out but maybe someone does. 247 gives you a top 25 list of transfers and of that list 12 of the 25 have committed to a new school.
 

MNVCGUY said:
Don't know anything about their team but would guess it means the rest of the roster is lacking in the talent department. Battle and Willis were really good for us last year but we still struggled.
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Rice ws a pretty sorry CUSA outfit three years ago and their best player went to UVA, then got rafted, their second best player transferred here, than went to USC after Both Gach transferred here from Utah
 

bga1 said:
What percentage of the top 250- let's call them the possibly Big Ten worthy players- are now attached to a new school? Does anyone know at this point where than sits?
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I use EvanMiya just as a reference, he "re-grades" the transfers with * ratings, he has 213 4-5* transfers. 122 have committed (57%), with 91 (43%) remaining open. I know that is not 100% current for example he does not have Sean McNeil in at Ohio St so i would guess about 80 are open. For context, he has Dawson as a 5* and Cooper as a 4*. Just zooming through quick the only one I can think we were in touch with was Llewelyn but im sure there were more.

Of note, he does have Patterson as a 4*. Other guys i would want to reach out to Emmitt Matthews (WVU/WASH), Jaren Holmes (St Bona), Emmanuel Akot (Boise) and Hunter (Purdue) they i think would all be really nice SG/CG for us.
 


leib0039 said:
I use EvanMiya just as a reference, he "re-grades" the transfers with * ratings, he has 213 4-5* transfers. 122 have committed (57%), with 91 (43%) remaining open. I know that is not 100% current for example he does not have Sean McNeil in at Ohio St so i would guess about 80 are open. For context, he has Dawson as a 5* and Cooper as a 4*. Just zooming through quick the only one I can think we were in touch with was Llewelyn but im sure there were more.

Of note, he does have Patterson as a 4*. Other guys i would want to reach out to Emmitt Matthews (WVU/WASH), Jaren Holmes (St Bona), Emmanuel Akot (Boise) and Hunter (Purdue) they i think would all be really nice SG/CG for us.
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Nice work! Thanks!! It appears we are moving into crunch time to get at least one solid combo guard and a sniper.
 


bga1 said:
Nice work! Thanks!! It appears we are moving into crunch time to get at least one solid combo guard and a sniper.
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Do we wait until they need to withdraw from draft or is that too risky and aiming too high?
 

leib0039 said:
I use EvanMiya just as a reference, he "re-grades" the transfers with * ratings, he has 213 4-5* transfers. 122 have committed (57%), with 91 (43%) remaining open. I know that is not 100% current for example he does not have Sean McNeil in at Ohio St so i would guess about 80 are open. For context, he has Dawson as a 5* and Cooper as a 4*. Just zooming through quick the only one I can think we were in touch with was Llewelyn but im sure there were more.

Of note, he does have Patterson as a 4*. Other guys i would want to reach out to Emmitt Matthews (WVU/WASH), Jaren Holmes (St Bona), Emmanuel Akot (Boise) and Hunter (Purdue) they i think would all be really nice SG/CG for us.
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I forgot about Llewelyn, I want him haha. I don't know how realistic that is but what a great final starter he would be, as well as a combo guard to run the point.
 

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