2022 Transfer Portal Discussion
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I don't see an indication that he's accepted an offer yet so I assume he is still available. He'd be a great acquisition. He also has two years of eligibility left which I think is a positive attribute at this point.
Well, he's shown that he can do it once anyway.
Don't say such things!
By the way, I'm not against taking Carlson if he were available. I just don't think he should be the #1 target for so many. I don't see how he couldn't be better than Daniels or Ogele.
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I've seen Carlson shoot airballs on three point attempts in 3 separate games this year.....absolutely looks like all sense of confidence is shot. He is a big body, but doesn't seem real interested in doing the dirty work down low, like Wahl does......
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Never mind. I was dreaming.
Since he entered the portal, Quinn has heard from NC State, Georgia Tech, Butler, Loyola Chicago, Richmond, Seton Hall, Ohio State and Illinois amongst others he told 247Sports.
Out of all the conversations he had on Monday, he said two schools particularly stood out.
"Loyola and Richmond stood out," said Quinn. "I can tell that they like me and think I would be a great fit. I’m looking forward to continuing talking with more programs as well."
Among the things he is looking for at his next stop are development, opportunity and wouldn't mind being closer to home.
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We are trying to do more than build depth at the guard positions, we are actively seeking the 2022 starters at the guard position. So yeah, I would expect to see us linked to a lot of guards in the portal.
He wants to win. That's why !!
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The interest needs to be reciprocated. Honestly though is one of Otz's P5 guys better than Battle? Your point stands globally sure, but that also requires you sacrifice some cultural things too sometimes. ISU had two early departures that probably helped them more than hurt them. More or less, its just not as simple as taking P5 guys vs. low/mid major guys. Its about getting good guys who can play together. I would again bet a large sum of money that we take at least one P5 transfer this year. Last year the ones we thought we might get just didn't pan out. Blame Ben for that if you'd like, but it won't happen like that again.
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He seems like he'd be a perfect take. We have depth at the position and if he regains his legs from his injuries he will be a steal. He is a good basketball player when healthy and would fit the type of guys Ben wants to have (Good students, hard workers, etc...)
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Their second best player is a top 40 recruit who stayed committed after the coaching change. There is no doubt they had a good year, but their current NCAA run is being fueled in large part based on some really fortunate matchups with an LSU team in disarray and a very mediocre Wisconsin team that just barely got by our depleted squad twice this year.
Will be interesting to see what happens going forward and how the runs of BJ and TJ compare in the years to come.
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If Carlson came here, he would definitely play with a chip on his shoulder and prove to the badgers he can play in the Big 10. We should take him, no questions
Just a side note, I know there are a lot of ranking sites out there, i do like evanmiya.com. He does KenPom type stuff all year with teams, lineups etc. But he also "re-grades" the transfers and gives them a star rating. again its just 1 site but gives some insight/comparison for looking at guys. I think he has a player rater similar to PER in the nba he uses to base his value. He currently has 5 "5-star" transfers.
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Stop.
The.
Excuses.
Good grief, ISU is doing well this season. Period. End of story. ISU doesn't dictate who they play int he NCAA (why are you watching anyway) they just play the games. And win.
Stop.
The.
Excuses.
If MN was doing the same thing, with CBJ, you wouldn't be throwing garbage at the wins. You would be proclaiming them loudly.
Yes, it just doesn't seem to register in the consciousness of some that while P5 guys are better overall than mid-majors some mid-majors are good or very good while some P5 players stink. Frankly, it's quite amazing when you consider all of the marginal P5 recruits we've had here over the last decade. Perhaps some just don't realize that we're not the only P5 program who recruited marginal players over that time span.
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This
is
why
you
don't
count
the
NCAA Tournament
as
a
sole
barometer
of
success
ISU had a good year whether they were in the sweet 16 or not. The poster making a point of them all a sudden being looked as the gold standard is based on match ups though. Kentucky losing to St. Peter doesn't take away that they had a really good team. They did run into a tough match up for them. Both your point on not making excuses for them and the tourney being a lot of luck can both be true.
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Cool site, and I'm sure there is some value there. But he lost me when I saw that Noah Freidel is a 5* transfer.
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The
Real
Season
Started
Last
Thursday
Said
Brad
Underwood
NCAA is the reason for playing the games, and all the whining about who made it in, who didnt, and why.
MNVCGUY
LOVES
Excuses
BOTH
Ways
If MN was doing the same thing, with CBJ, you wouldn't be throwing garbage at the wins. You would be proclaiming them loudly.
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Wonder if it was not being in the starting lineup? He started 10 of the first 16, but was strictly off the bench in their final 15 games. It did end up cutting into his minutes, but not to a great extent.
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I don't know about you, but Brad Underwood is far from who makes up my belief system of successful seasons. I love the NCAA tournament. It's a blast to watch and it is every teams goal to get there of course. Much like HS sports however, when you have a single elimination tournament, many things can and do happen. Single elimination requires a variety of things to go right most times. It's what makes the tourney fun honestly and leads to upsets that many (I personally do not) enjoy. The best 4 teams rarely make the final four. There is a reason for that and it's part of the aura of it.
If Ben had made the sweet sixteen this year, I do believe many would not throw garbage at the wins. I will personally guarantee you though that I would be one that would've acknowledged it was a favorable match up. Wouldn't take away from my enjoyment of it either way. We got both ends of the sword in our last two NCAA tourney match ups. Get Middle Tennessee State was an awful draw and I predicted we'd lose. I also predicted we'd win against Louisville because that was a lucky draw.
Yah not exactly sure how he does it, I am assuming it is based off of his player rating which last year (when he played a ton) he was better than say a Stanley Umude (good year at Arkansas) or Kevin Obanor (good year at Tex Tech) in the Summit. Again, not saying its the exact right rankings, those are always subjective but just gives you a general idea on guys.
Good offer! Really good year for a freshman. He'll have more offers coming his way.
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I dont believe there is one team that begins each and every BB season without the goal of making the NCAA tournament, as you said. If you believe Underwood is the only catch that thinks this way, all righty then.
Match ups are great to talk about. Great for the bobo's to ramble about.
No lucky draws. St Peters.
Just win.
Cummings is the right kind of player to be chasing but there are other mid-major points with comparable stats. I'm glad the coaching staff is contacting Larson; he deserves to be taken seriously.
Despite being highly rated coming out of high school, Cam Hayes has been just so-so at NC State over the last two years.
Can Sessoms transfer without sitting out a year? He already did so once.
From NCAA.org
Postgraduate Transfer Eligibility
Q11: What criteria does a student-athlete who has graduated with their baccalaureate degree need to meet to be eligible as postgraduate student at another Division I school?
A11: A student-athlete who graduates with remaining athletics eligibility may be eligible as a full-time postgraduate student at another Division I school provided they meet the one-time exception criteria, including providing a written request to enter the NCAA Transfer Portal to their current school by May 1 if they participate in a fall or winter sport, or July 1 if they participate in a spring sport.
Q12: What if the student-athlete transferred previously from another four-year school as an undergraduate student?
A12: Generally, a student-athlete who has previously transferred from another four-year school would not be able to use the one-time exception as a postgraduate transfer. However, a waiver process exists for postgraduate students with a previous transfer history.
What waiver conditions would apply to Sessoms if he transferred to a school much further from his home base than the one he is attending currently?
There is such a scarcity of big men that we took Charlie Daniels, a reserve from Stephen F. Austin, to be our potential starter if Eric Curry did not return.
We took him in May, not September. Our other backup big transfer was a D2 player.
In "positionless" basketball, it always seems like there are 10x more capable guards and wings than posts. I am more okay with taking a formerly highly touted local prospect when he is a big man. We know they take longer to develop.
I am not advocating for a Ben Carlson, I would prefer us to sign someone better. But if health issues were a big reason he struggled and he wanted to come home, I would be open to it.
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Oh no.
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Ouch, feel like I just got Brad Davisoned.
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They'd probably let us have Ghaston again.
While I don't think that highly of Carlson at the moment, he surely would have to be better than Daniels or Ogele.
You're right that serviceable big men are not nearly as plentiful as guards and wings so Ben should first priority to securing one of those (I think he only needs one). The supply definitely has improved in the last week and a half. There are some with pretty good per minute numbers but they don't play starter minutes because they approach Konate-like fouling tendencies. Still, these might be appropriate players for a team that might end up doing post-by-committee.