2015 with Mitcheroo as starting QB the gophs won't be better than 2014

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Breakin' The Plane said:
Perra is the backup QB, but Streveler plays more, they have packages for him.
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That is an interesting take on the back-up QB. Perra must have looked awfully good in practice to beat out Streveler. Personally, I was impressed with Streveler in the 4 or 5 games he played. Completion percentage was nothing to brag about (around 40%), but I thought he showed a great deal of maturity running the read option.
 



wait!what? said:
its offseason so it is open season- Mitcheroo never did enough in the pasisng game to convince me that this team will improve with him under center in 2015.
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My favorite response to silly posts like this: I vote we still play and see what happens.
 



Mitch has shown he is a good QB when the running game is on and we can sneak in the play action. For most of last year he was bad when the running game wasn't working and the success of the offense fell to his arm, but the Missouri game started to change this. Hopefully this was not a fluke and he really has started to turn a corner.
 


I was no fan of ML7 when PN9 was here as I thought PN9 gave us our best chance to win games during the 2013 season and beyond. But, after what transpired (PN9 leaving) and over the last season, Mitch has definitely won me over with his tough play, leadership, attitude and his improving ability. I hope that with another good off season of practice, like last year, he will only continue to improve.
 

Winasota Gopher said:
All I know is at least half this board will be calling of Mitch to be the backup of one of them by midway through the season.
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Zero chance it takes that long. You must not have been involved in any of the "in game threads" this year. It will happen by half time of the TCU game.


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at the risk of sounding cynical - it doesn't matter who the Gopher QB is. someone on this board will always be complaining about QB play. If Leidner went 29-30 in a game, someone would complain about the incompletion. If Leidner threw for 299 yards, someone would complain that he didn't throw for 300.

Some people have this idea that everything would be different if the Gophers had a different QB. But - having a different QB is not going to make the DL better at stopping the run. Having a different QB is not going to make the LB's better at stopping the other team's QB draw. Having a different QB is not going to make the Gopher DB's better at turning their head to pick up the ball in the air.

Mitch Leidner is not a perfect QB - heck, he's not a great QB - BUT, he IS the best QB the Gophs have right now. Deal with it.

If Leidner's play is so offensive to you - don't watch the Gophers. Go watch St. Thomas play, or listen to Dave Lee on WCCO.
 


Spoofin said:
Zero chance it takes that long. You must not have been involved in any of the "in game threads" this year. It will happen by half time of the TCU game.


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no, I'm only dumb enough to enter in game threads on the BBALL board every once in a while when I'm in for major face palm comments.
 

Rescooter said:
That is an interesting take on the back-up QB. Perra must have looked awfully good in practice to beat out Streveler. Personally, I was impressed with Streveler in the 4 or 5 games he played. Completion percentage was nothing to brag about (around 40%), but I thought he showed a great deal of maturity running the read option.
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What makes Perra an interesting QB candidate is that he is the reason why Dim. Roden-McKinzy transferred. If you don't believe me just ask Matt H., Ryan Burns, or Joe Funk.
 



Killjoy said:
What makes Perra an interesting QB candidate is that he is the reason why Dim. Roden-McKinzy transferred.
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It will be interesting to see if Perra earns a scholarship before he gets into a game. Clearly the staff sees he has great potential, and as you noted, he is part of the reason why DRM transferred. Is there a precedent to granting a scholarship to a kid who has the talent of a scholarship QB, but hasn't contributed yet? Assuming he's as good as he's shown in practice, his talent seems worthy of a scholarship, regardless if he's contributed yet. Interesting dilemma.

Go Gophers!!
 


BleedGopher said:
It will be interesting to see if Perra earns a scholarship before he gets into a game. Clearly the staff sees he has great potential, and as you noted, he is part of the reason why DRM transferred. Is there a precedent to granting a scholarship to a kid who has the talent of a scholarship QB, but hasn't contributed yet? Assuming he's as good as he's shown in practice, his talent seems worthy of a scholarship, regardless if he's contributed yet. Interesting dilemma.

Go Gophers!!
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Interesting question. Presently, it appears that we have three scholarship left for this coming season. I expect if a walk on is given one, the first one will given to Robert Ndondo-Lay. He is the walk on player who has contributed the most this past season. Another advantage of giving him a scholarship is that this scholarship would then be available for the class of 2016. That is because his eligibility would be over at the end of the 2015 season. Also, I don't know if there will be any late signers but I wouldn't be surprised if we do sign one. That would still leaves us with one available scholarship. Maybe Perra could be a candidate for this one. I suspect though that for that to happen he would have to earn it during fall camp. The problem may be that Kill and his staff probably would prefer that it is earned with game time experience and performance.
 

Great Plains Gopher said:
Hard to say. Asad Abdul-Khaliq made amazing progress year to year, with a great senior season. Adam Weber didn't - stayed a little above 50%. If Mitch is going to improve, this should be the year that shows it. I'm more worried about replacing a running back with a huge number of carries over two years with players with very little game time. Will be happy with six wins, regular season, given the schedule.
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Really? 6 wins would be a huge disappointment for me.
 


BleedGopher said:
It will be interesting to see if Perra earns a scholarship before he gets into a game. Clearly the staff sees he has great potential, and as you noted, he is part of the reason why DRM transferred. Is there a precedent to granting a scholarship to a kid who has the talent of a scholarship QB, but hasn't contributed yet? Assuming he's as good as he's shown in practice, his talent seems worthy of a scholarship, regardless if he's contributed yet. Interesting dilemma.

Go Gophers!!
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It doesn't make sense to give him a scholarship at this point even if he's shown he's talented enough. Why use a scholarship on Perra when you can use it to bring in another talent?
 

btowngopher said:
It doesn't make sense to give him a scholarship at this point even if he's shown he's talented enough. Why use a scholarship on Perra when you can use it to bring in another talent?
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If Perra is a legit 2 or 3 on the depth chart he deserves a scholarship. They need to reward walk-ons to ensure the walk-on program stays strong. If Perra is a legit 2 or 3 as a freshman, he could easily move to a scholarship elsewhere. That said, most important is keeping a good relationship between Perra and coaching staff. If Perra is happy with his role in the program, then it may be irrelevant if he is on scholarship or not.

Is Thomas on scholarship yet? I don't believe so.
 

Winnipegopher said:
If Perra is a legit 2 or 3 on the depth chart he deserves a scholarship. They need to reward walk-ons to ensure the walk-on program stays strong. If Perra is a legit 2 or 3 as a freshman, he could easily move to a scholarship elsewhere. That said, most important is keeping a good relationship between Perra and coaching staff. If Perra is happy with his role in the program, then it may be irrelevant if he is on scholarship or not.

Is Thomas on scholarship yet? I don't believe so.
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Yes he is. He was awarded a scholarship last fall I believe.
 

I don't recall Kill ever giving a scholie to a walk on that doesn't play. I could be wrong, but I doubt Perra gets one this year. It has to be awarded before the first game, I believe. Go ahead, steer me right.
 

highwayman said:
I don't recall Kill ever giving a scholie to a walk on that doesn't play. I could be wrong, but I doubt Perra gets one this year. It has to be awarded before the first game, I believe. Go ahead, steer me right.
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Quarterback is probably a little different as teams tend to play only one- don't rotate like other positions.
 

Winnipegopher said:
If Perra is a legit 2 or 3 on the depth chart he deserves a scholarship. They need to reward walk-ons to ensure the walk-on program stays strong. If Perra is a legit 2 or 3 as a freshman, he could easily move to a scholarship elsewhere. That said, most important is keeping a good relationship between Perra and coaching staff. If Perra is happy with his role in the program, then it may be irrelevant if he is on scholarship or not.

Is Thomas on scholarship yet? I don't believe so.
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I don't think anyone joins a walk on program expecting to be given a scholarship after one year. I also don't think he could easily get a scholarship elsewhere.
 

Mitch can play great when he wants to passing the football (Iowa, Missouri). Unfortunately, he can also lay some eggs (Wisconsin). I don't think he needs to raise his ability level, I would be happy if he could play like he did against Iowa and Missouri every game next year. He needs to raise his consistency. Any games as bad as the Wisconsin one would be a major disappointment (especially if they again come in arguably the biggest Gopher football game in over a decade).

I would really like to see him do a better job of running the hurry up offense when that gets going. I know the coordinators and coaches are responsible for that too, but when we really have to scramble, he looks lost. I remember him throwing a last second heave out of bounds at one point. Also, continue to focus on ball security. I understand a running quarterback will fumble more than a pocket passer, but he needs to eliminate the ones that are caused by him getting lazy with how he carries the ball.
 

I think Leidner will improve, but the question is how much. Something that jumps out at me is the performances vs. Iowa and Missouri came off a bye and the bowl break, respectively. That tells me Mitch clearly benefited from the extra film prep and practice reps, and the results spoke for himself. It's also possible the extra time gave the staff a chance to put in a few passing looks they either hadn't shown or they believed would be easy and effective against those teams. This isn't foolproof, of course as his performance vs NW off the bye wasn't jaw dropping, but I do see a trend.

Anyway, my basic belief is that Mitch has the physical tools...he made too many good throws for most people to doubt that. To me, it's pretty much about how quickly he can develop mentally (if at all) to compress those two week or longer prep times into a week.
 

I think you'll see Streveler make giant strides this Spring. Going into fall practice I think he'll really be pushing Mitch.
 

ruppertflywheel said:
I think you'll see Streveler make giant strides this Spring. Going into fall practice I think he'll really be pushing Mitch.
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You won't mind if I strenuously disagree? did you mean to say pushing Perra? or even maybe Croft? lots of variables but if Mitch is healthy I can't see that remotely being true. I do not see him as #2 in fall by first game if all four are healthy, let alone pushing Mitch. What do you base that on? The coaches said Perra was #2 during the season but they wanted to redshirt him?
 

60's Guy said:
You won't mind if I strenuously disagree? did you mean to say pushing Perra? or even maybe Croft? lots of variables but if Mitch is healthy I can't see that remotely being true. I do not see him as #2 in fall by first game if all four are healthy, let alone pushing Mitch. What do you base that on? The coaches said Perra was #2 during the season but they wanted to redshirt him?
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Nope. He'll be pushing Mitch. Runs the read option better and is stronger and faster. If he improves his passing even to the level of Mitch it will be a push.
 

ruppertflywheel said:
Nope. He'll be pushing Mitch. Runs the read option better and is stronger and faster. If he improves his passing even to the level of Mitch it will be a push.
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You mean the guy was better at running the read option against a San Jose State team that refused to adjust and defend the read option the entire game? There will be competition for that backup spot, absolutely. But Mitch has firm control of the starting spot. It really is his position to lose, and I don't see him losing it. All we need is consistency, not a Heisman candidate.
 

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