$200: the final straw for this Gopher alum & lifelong fan

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Spaulding!No! said:
Anyone else get an email about zone 1 parking price increase? I got the email last week asking for 200 bucks more. The principle of this will not land well with the group .
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Good Maybe you'll get so upset you'll stop being a fan and stop posting here.

The latter would be a nice compromise.
 

Professional sports is not the mission nor core product of the University of Minnesota. Students should not be forced to pay for athletes (some of whom can only loosely be termed student athletes). Stop the oversized tail wagging the dog.
 

WoodburyTim said:
Does seem odd that post after post on this site says that sports are generating an ungodly profit and then they need $200 a student to pay the players.
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I think the distinction is that football is generating a large profit and covering the losses from other programs, and I believe athletics has a projected loss right of more than $8M.
 

IMO, if schools are doing this and the SEC/B1G get the college expansion wrong, we will start to see the ramifications of it all.
 

PMWinSTP said:
I think the distinction is that football is generating a large profit and covering the losses from other programs, and I believe athletics has a projected loss right of more than $8M.
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Yeah, but that has always been part of the understanding. The socialistic nature of it made it still feel somewhat amateur. If the end goal(as many on here seem to want) is to get rid of the collegiate sports and become de facto second tier professional sports, then it is sort of pointless to tie it to college. You know how many people at a Gopher football game have another non-revenue sport that they follow or attend? It's a lot.
 


WoodburyTim said:
Yeah, but that has always been part of the understanding. The socialistic nature of it made it still feel somewhat amateur. If the end goal(as many on here seem to want) is to get rid of the collegiate sports and become de facto second tier professional sports, then it is sort of pointless to tie it to college. You know how many people at a Gopher football game have another non-revenue sport that they follow or attend? It's a lot.
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I don't think that's the end goal and doesn't address the here and now. Of the Gophs have a great season, it should cover maybe half of the overall projected loss. It's the reality of the court ruling.
 

PMWinSTP said:
I don't think that's the end goal and doesn't address the here and now. Of the Gophs have a great season, it should cover maybe half of the overall projected loss. It's the reality of the court ruling.
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I don't know I have seen a lot of posts that say just cut the non-revenue sports. I know it is not the stated goal, but that seems to be the theme.
 


We have no NIL... we can't compete... THEIR COLLECTING NIL FROM THE STUDENTS.. HOW DARE THEY
 




It's one of the most liberal colleges on the planet.

Take from some to give it away to others. Perfect! It's a liberals dream!
 
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HitMeAgainIAmStillMoving said:
I am always a fan of your posts Billd, tell me, what is the most egregious item?
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Pretty much busted me HitMe, however as was once stated... "show me the fees and I'll show you an egregious one"... or similar.

With a little research looks like the Radio K fee of $4.99 per semester is fairly outragious for the content delivered.

Admittedly a stretch. BTW, there is a $6.00 stadium fee (football) that is assessed each semester as well. So, the precedent was set...first paying for the student section and now paying for a subset of student athletes.

P.S. I like having a fan. With Mrs. Billd I now have two. Thanks.
 





tjgopher said:
Not sure if it is still going, but there was/is a student fee incorporated to help pay for the new stadium, too. I think it was/is $25/year.
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This says it's only $6/semester (for Fall and Spring), but maybe that went down recently?

Fees | Twin Cities One Stop Student Services

View fees for specific college, student services, health insurance, and more.
onestop.umn.edu onestop.umn.edu

Stadium feeThe student stadium fee supports the construction costs and debt service of the on-campus football stadium that also serves the marching band, intramural and club sports, student activities, and other University functions (not assessed during summer term). Assessed to all students registered for 6 or more on-campus credits.$6.00


Maybe due to this one (don't know how old this is):

Gopher Athletics Facilities feeThe Gopher Athletics Facilities fee provides partial support for Gopher athletic facilities on the Twin Cities campus. Assessed to all students registered for 6 or more on-campus credits.$100.00
 

60's Guy said:
If the money goes to facilities that is a very different thing for me than a student paying an athletes NIL money.
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According to the One Stop fees description, it does go to facilities.

However, money is somewhat fungible. Now that they're getting this $100/semester from every 6+ credit enrolled student on the TC campus, that frees up other money to be spent on rev share payments/NIL deals with players.

So it's somewhat hand-wavy, just as I'm guessing the finance folks like it
 

Also relevant, but I don't know if we know details about how/why fees would be barred, nor do we know how much chance this has at passing:

www.espn.com

House bill would bar using student fees on NIL

A bill to regulate college sports introduced in the House on Thursday would offer limited antitrust protection for the NCAA, while barring schools from using student fees to pay for college athletic programs.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 

GopherGrit said:
According to the One Stop fees description, it does go to facilities.

However, money is somewhat fungible. Now that they're getting this $100/semester from every 6+ credit enrolled student on the TC campus, that frees up other money to be spent on rev share payments/NIL deals with players.

So it's somewhat hand-wavy, just as I'm guessing the finance folks like it
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Because our Athletic Director is not good at fundraising, I can see the fee paing off, say Athletes Village. Arguably, no debt makes the overall university more financially healthy and benefits all.
I see that argument. Students paying money to pay athletes is a non starter for me. I also get one could argue it is a shell game.
 

But, but…how?! I’ve been told that greedy athletic departments were hoarding the cash they raked in by oppressing their slave-labor athletes. There was so much cash that the courts had to force them to pay the players so it was more equitable…but only some of the players will get paid, so not THAT equitable. Now athletic departments must either cut non-revenue sports (doesn’t sound very equitable) or charge the students another fee (doesn’t sound very equitable). What happened to all that cash?
The entire argument for revenue sharing with student athletes is bullshit. Fewer than 25 schools have athletic departments that make a profit. Hundreds run in the red and have always been supplemented by general funds (and student fees).
 

60's Guy said:
Because our Athletic Director is not good at fundraising, I can see the fee paing off, say Athletes Village. Arguably, no debt makes the overall university more financially healthy and benefits all.
I see that argument. Students paying money to pay athletes is a non starter for me. I also get one could argue it is a shell game.
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University students use the athletic facilities for physical education classes, intramural sports, gatherings and more. There is wear and tear and probably other costs that this fee will be used for. If there is $10 million dollars worth is the question.
 

What are they spending the 63M$(?) on that they get yearly from the B1G network?
 



I say get rid of student season tickets. Student IDs are scannable, so they know who attends games.

All students should be able to attend all sports for that fee paid, with no additional expense.

For men’s hockey, it would be first come, first serve. And once men’s basketball becomes good enough to have the same problem, the same policy would be in effect.
 


Ski U Mah Gopher said:
I say get rid of student season tickets. Student IDs are scannable, so they know who attends games.

All students should be able to attend all sports for that fee paid, with no additional expense.

For men’s hockey, it would be first come, first serve. And once men’s basketball becomes good enough to have the same problem, the same policy would be in effect.
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That's your plan, eh?

www.si.com

Study shows Gophers hockey is a serious moneymaker for U of M athletics

Minnesota rakes in serious money from ticket sales for men's hockey.
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maroonfive said:
We are cheap aren't we. If we donated to the U like other alumni do to their schools we wouldn't have a problem.
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This board is a gathering place for monstrous cheapskates that want to not only spend other people's money, but want to tell them what to spend it on. Same folks that think it's horrible to have to spend an extra $10 in a month to stream Gopher football games.
 

gopher watcher said:
This is so incredibly wrong! Tuition-paying students should not have to pay for athletes. Not every school is doing this, e.g, University of Wisconsin

1. Raise ticket/user fees on tickets.
2. Get more sponsors.
3. Get more concerts.
4. Get more NIL.
5. Get a more creative athletic director.

The Board of Regents should reverse this decision
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The bolded is the most obvious.
 

GopherinFlorida said:
I live in FL, no state income tax, but fees on everything...
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I live in a similar state, very high sales tax, very high vehicle registration, etc. That is characteristic of a regressive tax system. They get you one way or another. But if you are a high earner there is potential to avoid more taxes as a % of your income.
 


goldenboy said:
But, but…how?! I’ve been told that greedy athletic departments were hoarding the cash they raked in by oppressing their slave-labor athletes. There was so much cash that the courts had to force them to pay the players so it was more equitable…but only some of the players will get paid, so not THAT equitable. Now athletic departments must either cut non-revenue sports (doesn’t sound very equitable) or charge the students another fee (doesn’t sound very equitable). What happened to all that cash?
The entire argument for revenue sharing with student athletes is bullshit. Fewer than 25 schools have athletic departments that make a profit. Hundreds run in the red and have always been supplemented by general funds (and student fees).
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Absolutely. There are plenty of other idiots that parroted the narrative that you mention, including many in here, but Stewart Mandell and Dennis Dood need to be remembered as the ring leaders that helped kill college athletics.

And they did so college athletes would think they were cool and they could keep sniffing jocks…
 

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